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bartosso ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Location: coffin on Io Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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Please, elaborate on your votes.
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 22100 |
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Most definitely...not. Why? Because it's the only fantasy adaptation I've seen outside of the Tolkien ones that seems to care about being faithful to its source. And it's probably more faithful than those as well. Sure it's made it's share of changes but so far it hasn't done anything overly disappointing. Except perhaps the Season 4 ending. They could have had a major cliffhanger in that (fans of the books will know what or rather who I'm talking about) but instead decided to end on Arya sailing away on Braavos. I'm sure I wasn't the only fan of the novels expecting a much different ending to the season.
But one disappointment isn't going to change my faith in the show. Back to my first point, minor changes and one disappointment aside it's been faithful to good source material. Good source material that could have been treated much worse. For example Terry Goodkind's Sword of Truth books that are quite similar in tone to GRRM's were also adapted for TV as Legend of the Seeker and those got turned into a family friendly show that seemed to go out of its way to do the exact opposite to established canon. Can you imagine what Game of Thrones would be like done like that? I read a lot of fantasy books so I know they aren't all like Tolkien's stuff. Most are for the mature reader and anyone whose seen even one episode of Game of Thrones knows that the show is very strictly for a mature audience. I can't name one other fantasy show that's really captured the way the bulk of the genre's literacy is. Game of Thrones does though. I've also seen other fantasy films aside from Hobbit/LotR ones are all of them were either quite terrible or decidedly average. I guess one of the better ones I watched was In the Name of the King (considering this is Uwe Boll film that's probably saying something) but like with the Goodkind adaptation it went out of its way to ignore canon, though this one was based on a game rather than a novel and I guess game adaptations are never that great. Still major miscast for the protagonist. I mean this is what the protagonist of Dungeon Siege is supposed to look like: ![]() And here's who they cast: ![]() Now Jason Statham is a great actor and all, but we can all see the glaring problem here can't we. ![]() Bottom line is Game of Thrones fills a niche on TV that in my experience has never been done well before and it does it faithfully to it's source. Therefore as a fantasy fan it is most definitely not overrated and fully deserves the recognition it's received.
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Unitron ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 30 Apr 2014 Location: Cypress Hill Status: Offline Points: 8051 |
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I've never seen it, so I can't really give an opinion.
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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DippoMagoo ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Power & Neo, Goth & Symph, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 31 Aug 2014 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3072 |
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Nope. I agree with what Adam said, but also it's a rare case of great source material falling into the hands of people who were actually capable of adapting it into another form and making the appropriate changes so it'll work, while staying as true to the overall heart of the series. Basically: HBO is a channel that carries the kinds of shows that would never make it onto network television without severe changes that would make them much less effective, and A Song of Ice and Fire is possibly the darkest, most mature fantasy series out there. that would certainly never work on network television, and also way too big and overloaded with material to work even as a series of movies (I can't imagine how many movies Peter Jackson would require to show all the events of book 3, for example: The show took two seasons to go through it, and at times we only got the cliff notes versions of less important scenes, with some stuff entirely removed.) So yeah, the series and HBO are pretty much a perfect fit for each other, so it's not surprising the show is as good as it is.
ps: And yeah, Adam, I was expecting season 4 to end with a certain Tyrion scene. I was actually a bit disappointed with how they handled his scenes in that episode altogether, but obviously that's just a minor thing in what was otherwise still an excellent season: The end of episode 8 in particular, couldn't have possibly been filmed any better.
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 22100 |
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^ The scene I was thinking of has nothing to do with Tyrion by the way.
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DippoMagoo ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Power & Neo, Goth & Symph, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 31 Aug 2014 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3072 |
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Oh, I think I know the other thing you're talking about now (the epilogue scene in book 3). I'm glad they didn't do that yet, actually. It's not really something I'm looking forward to. I would have ended with a certain scene, especially because it would have fit in perfectly with how the season started. That, and it was my most anticipated scene of the episode.
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 2490 |
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This
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 22100 |
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Well they changed a fair bit of the timeline for the King's Landing plot, so if you talking about what I think you're talking about that event had already happened by that stage, well ahead of Tyrion's escape.
I'm disappointed that they didn't do the epilogue because it's seemed like they laid all the groundwork for it in season 3. Sure she's not a major character in books 4 and 5 but she's involved in at least two POV characters stories and her absence (and it does look like they're completely cutting her out full stop, unless they're simply trying to not spoil the next season) means those plots are going to need changes. Well one's plot was changed already I guess. You know I'm going to admit it, I do have some concerns over season 5. The producers might be deliberately misleading us by leaving certain major casting for two storylines out (Dorne and Greyjoy Family) but the lack of such announcements is kinda worrying. Even with the changes and omissions they did the first three books well across the first four seasons. It would be a shame if it started to fall part now.
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rushfan4 ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors and Omissions Team Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 7485 |
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I've only watched the first season, and I enjoyed it. I'm currently in the long drawn out process of reading the series. I am about a quarter of the way through the 3rd book. I tend to only read a page or two at a time except when I am on vacation so it takes me quite a while to get through each book.
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I've only seen the odd programme. I always imagined the attraction was all the tits on show. Obviously it's deeper than that then
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^Yeah, that part of it is just an effect of it being on HBO, more than anything else. They sure love their sex scenes, and nudity in general. (HBO, I mean: Almost all their shows I've watched have had excessive amounts of sex and nudity.)
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UMUR ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 18180 |
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Hail HBO then
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 2490 |
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Hell yes!!! ![]() Love me some nudity and you know..
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Triceratopsoil ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4197 |
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f) never watched it
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Pekka ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Location: Helsinki Status: Offline Points: 1357 |
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This. I'll read them all first and then complain about the differences.
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bartosso ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Location: coffin on Io Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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![]() Oh man, I sound like a prick. Edited by bartosso - 19 Apr 2015 at 8:50am |
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From what I've seen, the show is pretty lame in the way that it's already a tired concept of medieval warfare. Same goes for The Walking Dead, which is probably an even more cliche idea.
However, being overrated does not make something bad. I've given the show fair chances, but I just don't seem to like it. I think it's sort of bad to put "I Despise It" in a poll discussion something being overrated, not bad. No offense to the fans whatsoever.
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 2490 |
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Yes it is
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Time Signature ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7690 |
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Haven't seen it. I've seen Sharknado, though :-P
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 2490 |
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Is this the show that has lesbian action? If it is then there is no way in hell that it is overrated
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