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    Posted: 03 Dec 2011 at 7:59am
Often, I'll find myself wondering what is wrong with a certain album to cause such an outpouring of hate from so many people, because when I put it on, all I hear is a good record.


So, which albums do you like that the world hates ?


My personal choices:
Guns N Roses - Chinese Democracy  - Good album, history doesn't matter.
Metallica - St Anger                             - Great album, snare drum and solos don't matter.
Yes - Tales Of Topographic Oceans    - Good album, length doesn't matter.
Jethro Tull - A Passion Play                 - Great album, length doesn't matter.
Machine Head - Supercharger             - Too fun to let the style change matter
Black Sabbath - Technical Ecstasy      - Dirty Women is classic and 'You Wont Change Me' is their Stairway.
Fear Factory - Digimortal                     - Too fun to let the style change matter
Judas Priest - Turbo                             - Too fun to let the style change matter

Also Slayer's three most recent albums sometimes get too much jip for my tastes, I can't figure that one out at all.



Oh, and while Dynasty by Kiss isn't up in this list, the song 'Save Your Love' off of it is my favurite Kiss song.


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Kreator - Renewal (people absolutely hated this album when it came out, but Iīve always liked it and itīs probably my favorite Kreator album).
Pestilence - Spheres (this is another album everyone loved to hate back when it was released and honestly it took a few years to grow on me too. Time has given Spheres itīs rightful position among the most influential tech/prog death metal albums out there though)
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Metallica: St. Anger (they went back to playing aggressive and fast music and, in my book, much better than Load & ReLoad)
Metallica: Death Magnetic (the criticism it has received seems more like an instance of general Metallica bashing - for my money, it's their best album since Justice)
Judas Priest: Turbo (I like their experiments with guitar synths)
Judas Priest: Jugulator & Demolition (Tim Owens does a great job!)
Celtic Frost: Cold Lake (it's really not as miserable as people say)
Celtic Frost: Vanity/Nemesis (for some reason, lumped in with Cold Lake, although the style is completely different - I think it's a pretty good album)
Pestilence: Spheres (I loved it since the first time I heard it)
Atheist: Elements (ditto)
Carcass: Swansong (I quite like it although it's not their best album)

.... and loads more.


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Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

Metallica: Death Magnetic (the criticism it has received seems more like an instance of general Metallica bashing - for my money, it's their best album since Justice)
 
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Dream Theater - albums six through ten.  In my opinion, they are superior to everything they released before.

Cryptopsy - Whisper Supremacy.  It's overshadowed by the two albums before it, but again I believe it's superior.  "Emaciate" blew me away the first time I listened to it.  Been hooked on it since.

Striborg - most of the discography.  Sin Nanna makes some pretty interesting music, but a lot of people find it annoying.  Sure, there are some songs that could have been shorter than they are, but there are also lots of awesome moments.

Funeral - Tristesse.  Influential funeral doom metal overshadowed by Skepticism, Thergothen, and Esoteric in the genre's early years.  It was also my key into understanding the genre as a whole.

Ahab - The Divinity of Oceans.  This album had a stronger initial hook on me than the debut even though most view the debut as superior.  "Yet Another Raft of the Medusa (Pollard's Weakness)" is one of my favorite songs of the funeral doom genres.

Sunn O))) - almost everything they made.  Let's face it; it's hard to hook yourself on this band, but even harder to unhook yourself.  If you've listened to the band, they're either a cult classic or an annoyance.

Dimmu Borgir - their later albums (specifically, Enthrone Darkness Triumphant, Spiritual Black Dimensions, the Stormblast re-recording, and Deathcult Armageddon).  Coming from Encyclopaedia Metallum, there are a lot of people who say that the band is now terrible but used to be great, particularly For All Tid (http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Dimmu_Borgir/For_All_Tid/336/).  I have to agree with AngelOfBreath and Empyreal's reviews; I actually think this album is their weakest.  I await the re-recording.
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Dream Theater - Octavarium (People love to hate this one, but it's one of my favorite albums of all time)
Pain of Salvation - Scarsick (Most folks detest this one... I personally love the controversial lyrics and angsty raw metal style)
Metallica - Death Magnetic (While I don't like the few albums before it, I've never understood the hate this one generates)
Genesis - And Then There Were Three & Duke (Both of these albums are considered the start of Genesis' pop era, but they are both amazing albums IMO)
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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Kreator - Renewal (people absolutely hated this album when it came out, but Iīve always liked it and itīs probably my favorite Kreator album)./QUOTE]

I wholeheartedly agree, the needle nearly went through the record I played it so much! Smile

[QUOTE=J-Man]Dream Theater - Octavarium (People love to hate this one, but it's one of my favorite albums of all time)
Pain of Salvation - Scarsick (Most folks detest this one... I personally love the controversial lyrics and angsty raw metal style)
Metallica - Death Magnetic (While I don't like the few albums before it, I've never understood the hate this one generates)
Genesis - And Then There Were Three & Duke (Both of these albums are considered the start of Genesis' pop era, but they are both amazing albums IMO)


Again I completely agree with DT and PoS (but as Jeff knows they were to write one two later that I do detest.)

I adore Genesis, although the day my sister walked into my bedroom proudly holding "Duke" a pop, disco and R 'n' B fanatic saying how good it was, was sadly the last time it saw my turntable.



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Death Magnetic here as well, although I've never been that impressed with Hetfield's vocals on it. I'll say St. Anger as well, seeing as it introduced me to metal.

I'm not surely if this one is widely panned or anything, perhaps because it's not that widely known, but I'll also say Coronatus' Porta Obscura. I often see it down as the band's worst album, but I actually think it's their best. Female fronted gothic metal often gets panned by the wider metal crowd, but this album is actually pretty damn intense, not as commercial as the bigger acts like Lacuna Coil or Sirenia either. 

The stuff Iced Earth did with Tim Owens as well, always felt it was better than many have made out, especially The Glorious Burden. Along the same lines, Derrick Green era Sepultura as well. 

Nightwish's Dark Passion Play was also their best since Wishmaster. 
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Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:


Carcass: Swansong


Oh, good shout.


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I forgot to mention the more recent Cradle of Filth albums. I enjoy them quite a lot, even though a decent number of metalheads love to make fun of them.
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I really like Load and Reload by Metallica.  The Black Album was the wake up call to fans that they were making the transition to hard rock and leaving thrash behind, but Load/Re-load I think did the rock thing better with a darker, more stripped down sound.  Granted, I don't kid myself and know there is some weak stuff on there.

As for Death Magnetic getting hate, I think much of it comes from the mix being pretty horrible.  It's generally commended as a step in the right direction.  I really haven't listened to this album for more than maybe 5 times as I don't even own a copy.
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To be honest I like Lulu. *Hides*
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Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Sunn O))) - almost everything they made.  Let's face it; it's hard to hook yourself on this band, but even harder to unhook yourself.  If you've listened to the band, they're either a cult classic or an annoyance.


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I also am possibly the only person ever who thinks DT's debut is their best
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Sunn O))) - almost everything they made.  Let's face it; it's hard to hook yourself on this band, but even harder to unhook yourself.  If you've listened to the band, they're either a cult classic or an annoyance.


This

I also am possibly the only person ever who thinks DT's debut is their best


You're probably right about that. LOL
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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


Genesis - And Then There Were Three & Duke (Both of these albums are considered the start of Genesis' pop era, but they are both amazing albums IMO)


I like them, too, and I really don't consider them pop albums at all.
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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Sunn O))) - almost everything they made.  Let's face it; it's hard to hook yourself on this band, but even harder to unhook yourself.  If you've listened to the band, they're either a cult classic or an annoyance.


This

I also am possibly the only person ever who thinks DT's debut is their best


You're probably right about that. LOL
 
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Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


Genesis - And Then There Were Three & Duke (Both of these albums are considered the start of Genesis' pop era, but they are both amazing albums IMO)


I like them, too, and I really don't consider them pop albums at all.


Yeah, aside from one or two tracks on each, I don't either.
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Metallica - Load, Reload, S&M, Garage Inc. 
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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Sunn O))) - almost everything they made.  Let's face it; it's hard to hook yourself on this band, but even harder to unhook yourself.  If you've listened to the band, they're either a cult classic or an annoyance.


This

I also am possibly the only person ever who thinks DT's debut is their best


You're probably right about that. LOL
 
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I actually dig that album quite a bit (the fact that it was released in 1989 also means it's one of the earlier full-blown prog metal albums), but the production is just so shitty that most of my enjoyment is diminished. Unhappy
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Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


Genesis - And Then There Were Three & Duke (Both of these albums are considered the start of Genesis' pop era, but they are both amazing albums IMO)


I like them, too, and I really don't consider them pop albums at all.
 
I absolutely adore ...And Then There Were Three. It may be the beginning of the more pop oriented period of Genesis discography but itīs actually a very progressive album. I love the futuristic production, the musicianship is outstanding as ever and some of the songs are so well written they almost bring tears to my eyes. "Burning Rope" is my alltime favorite Genesis track. I like it so much I want it played at my funeral. Check out all those little clever time signature changes. Amazing!!!
 
 
Duke!!! ahh well I like some of it but Iīll probably never be a fan.


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