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Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

there is nothing "punk" about any of the bands you mentioned, I do not get what you're trying to do with this thread. Confused


Then don't post.  If you don't sense punk in them that's on you.  But google deathcore and metalcore.  Hell, most metalcore won't even be allowed on Metallum because these bands are considered "too punk."  This statement of yours is too grounded in opinion and has no bearing on the topic itself, which means if you're going to get snippy about it then all you're doing for me is wasting time.


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Originally posted by LightningRider LightningRider wrote:

Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

can you give some examples of bands that play "progressive metal punk" because i can't think of any that do that. 


Between the Buried and Me is the first thing that comes to mind.  There's also Fit for an Autopsy, early Protest the Hero, Slice the Cake, Born of Osiris, After the Burial and The Contortionist.

there is nothing "punk" about any of the bands you mentioned, I do not get what you're trying to do with this thread. Confused
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Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

can you give some examples of bands that play "progressive metal punk" because i can't think of any that do that. 


Between the Buried and Me is the first thing that comes to mind.  There's also Fit for an Autopsy, early Protest the Hero, Slice the Cake, Born of Osiris, After the Burial and The Contortionist.
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Progressilver Punk. Tongue

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Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

^ not now as I’m sat in a bar in Bucharest having consumed far too many beers, but there are hundreds of progressive sludge, metalcore and deathcore bands and a good number of progressive grind bands. Pretty much any mathcore bands are progressive by definition and worth a listen if you like your prog to be of the extreme variety. Not all progressive core bands are good, but not all progressive metal bands are.

not helping with my question in any way. I'll leave it at that... Ouch
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^ not now as I’m sat in a bar in Bucharest having consumed far too many beers, but there are hundreds of progressive sludge, metalcore and deathcore bands and a good number of progressive grind bands. Pretty much any mathcore bands are progressive by definition and worth a listen if you like your prog to be of the extreme variety. Not all progressive core bands are good, but not all progressive metal bands are.

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can you give some examples of bands that play "progressive metal punk" because i can't think of any that do that. 
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Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

You including sludge in there too? Progcore sounds too generic, although it rolls off the tongue easily enough. It may sound clumsy but progressive punk metal as you suggest, or prog hardcore metal would be more accurate.


I haven't heard a lot of sludge-based punk, but I am NOT opposed to it.

Metal mixed with punk would be hardcore by nature, so I do like the idea of "hardcore metal," but mixing prog with it would be funky.  Metallic progcore might work since it sounds legit, but since it's so new it also sounds out of whack.

That, and with how stuffy Metallum can be, how many bands would they exclude on the lightning-strikes-twice chance that it actually becomes fairly common...?
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You including sludge in there too? Progcore sounds too generic, although it rolls off the tongue easily enough. It may sound clumsy but progressive punk metal as you suggest, or prog hardcore metal would be more accurate.
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True, but progressive tendencies and straight up prog have a difference. This chart I'm making is supposed to illustrate it.

If you think of a decent name, please let me know.
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A lot of the post-hardcore acts have progressive tendendices like Cursed, Burst, Breach, Code Orange, and Converge. Some of them are often labelled metalcore, but I think of them as post-hardcore.
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What would it be?

Would it be "progressive metalcore?"  Maybe not.  There's also crossover thrash, grindcore, andd epending on how you look at it, trancecore.  I've been trying to think of a term for I sometimes look for progressive punk+metal.  But "punk metal" sounds weird enough, "prog punk metal?"  Yikes.

You're probably wondering why this matters.  I'm throwing together a list of progressive punk + metal, but I'm wondering if there's a better term for it.

"Progcore" is a MAYBE.  But that could just be used for progressive hardcore punk, no metal needed.

EDIT: This is NOT for debating whether or not certain metal genres are punk.  That is a different discussion for a different thread, and those diverging into that topic will be reminded.


Edited by LightningRider - 11 Oct 2021 at 12:55pm
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