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Unitron ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 30 Apr 2014 Location: Cypress Hill Status: Offline Points: 8051 |
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The funny thing is that System of a Down was nu metal in pretty much every way with their genre blending, heavy focus on groove and rhythm, and unique vocal variety, but since everyone liked them but hated nu metal historical revisionism called for taking that label away from them. ![]() Personally my favorite SoaD album is either Steal This Album! or Mesmerise, and that nu/folk metal album I posted here shares some similarities to SoaD in the vocal department. Edit: Open to trying any generally highly rated industrial metal?
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If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 22100 |
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I'm pretty sure you have a different definition of nu metal to everyone else Khaliq. Back in the day when I was first discovering metal and those were the bands getting a lot of airplay and media coverage, SOAD were absolutely not included beyond being mentioned in the same breath for sharing the spotlight of the time. It's not revisionism. To be honest metal as a whole could actually do with a ton of revisionism and not just in the alt/nu metal department. The lines between heavy / power / uspm / speed and even thrash are far more blurred than they need to be.
I think the trouble with Nu is that many at the time didn't see it as a genre any different from its alt metal parent, instead thinking of it as a movement of popular alt metal bands (so I suppose by that definition you would have to include SOAD whether some like it or not) that had its day and died out, like the NWoBHM. Of course that's not actually true since you still get stuff tagged Nu released. RE: Industrial, it depends what it is. I can't say I'm super keen on the genre. I like a bit of Rammstein now and then but I don't play their stuff that often. My experience of the genre is limited beyond that but everything else I've tried has ended up low to mid rated.
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MorniumGoatahl ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: 27 May 2017 Status: Offline Points: 407 |
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To be honest the difference between alt and nu back in the day was basically:
You like it = Alt You hate it = Nu Unless of course you were fully on the Nu bandwagon, then everything was Nu whether you liked a band or not.
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Unitron ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 30 Apr 2014 Location: Cypress Hill Status: Offline Points: 8051 |
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I'll be the first to admit that my definitions of certain genres are different, especially when it comes to early metal. However, the thing is that nu metal was always about metal bands with different influences and their own unique take while sharing some common ground with others, so very few bands sound exactly alike. Plus there's the misconception that it has to have an influence of rap/hip hop (though I'd say SoaD has some influence), when not every band did. As for the common themes among most bands, SoaD shared the often idiosyncratic vocals, focus on syncopation and rhythm in the guitar, few guitar solos, among others. Example, these two songs share some of these similarities: Not looking to change anyone's opinion, but hopefully that maybe helps my reason make sense. I'd recommend checking out the first few metal albums from Die Krupps or Oomph! in regards to industrial metal, as they're pretty close in sound to Rammstein.
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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Highlighted bit is completely true. SOAD didn't have the stupid downtuning and simplistic riffs, had a singer that could actually sing, and occasionally got out of second gear. |
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 22100 |
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I suppose in order of personal interest I feel I should know the following genres better, since they intrigue me the most and I only have a select few albums from each:
Stoner Metal (and Stoner Rock really) Sludge Metal Doom Metal (I know this best of these three, but I have a lot to hear) Genres I know some stuff about but not extensively: Thrash Metal (I'm always on power metal's team in the power v thrash war, but I do like to dabble in thrash every now and then) Viking Metal Folk Metal (you may find that hard to believe but most of my folk interest is within a set few bands) Speed Metal Avant-Garde Metal Gothic Metal Heavy Metal (there's a ton of classic heavy metal bands I've never listened to or certain key albums from those I have) Death Metal (same situation as Heavy to be honest. Got a fair bit of tech death, some melodic, but years my only normal DM album owned was Death's Leprosy) Genres I feel like I should force myself to try more: Alternative Metal (parent) Metalcore (+ subs though probably not Electronicore and Nintendocore) Grindcore As above but more apprehensive: Drone Metal Industrial Metal Neoclassical Metal Nu Metal (extensive rapping is a total deal breaker and occasional rapping a detraction - this is almost on the tier below) No interest: Rap Metal Funk Metal Glam Metal Trance Metal Now if anyone is the opposite of me and doesn't know much about Black, Power, Prog, USPM or Symphonic then I'm the one to talk to.
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 22100 |
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From page 2 of RYM's chart, my unheard albums are as follows:
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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