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Topic: Fixing the Confessions
Posted By: adg211288
Subject: Fixing the Confessions
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 12:39am
Fixing the Confessions - A Metalhead's Journey Through Albums He Really Should Have Heard By Now

I recently posted my List Challenge Confessions of a Metalhead ( http://www.listchallenges.com/confessions-of-a-metalhead" rel="nofollow - link ) where I collected 450 albums that I'd never heard (well, 449, because I included one I'd completely forgot I had heard), but felt like, based on factors such as overall notability and personal taste, that I probably should have checked out by now.

This blog, concurrent to my The Great Collection Rediscovery blog, aims to correct some of these omissions, album by album, though perhaps not with the same frequency as I'm going through the CDs I own for the other blog.

Ticking an album off this list can only be done if it cane be streamed free and legally. Usually this will mean Spotify, on which I'm making a playlist of albums which can be accessed here:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1TMZKQPz9V078nILohUqGW" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1TMZKQPz9V078nILohUqGW

Selection and order of the albums has been done using a randomizer.

List of Releases Not on Spotify in the UK:

Arckanum - Fran Marder
Sabbat - The Dwelling
Sadus - Illusions
Sigh - Scorn Defeat
Spirit Caravan - Jug Fulla Sun


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 5:01am
Artist: Omen
Album: The Curse



Verdict: I've heard other Omen albums before and remember liking them to different degrees, but it's been a while. This one is fairly typical sounding USPM/heavy metal of the time period. Solid stuff, but it doesn't blow me away or get my blood boiling with meaty riffs the way the best USPM does.

Would I Buy it? If it was cheap enough, I guess. 


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 6:31am
Artist: Revocation
Album: The Outer Ones



Verdict: A quite recent one so not the most glaring omission on my part and I have heard some other Revocation, though they are a fairly recent one to be ticked off my bands to check out list. This one finds them much more in the tech death camp than they're known for, but it's a very solid tech-death album.

Would I Buy It? Yes, although not sure yet what my first choice for Revocation would be. They are certainly a band I'd like something by in my collection though. 


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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 29 May 2020 at 4:27pm
Brilliant band and that's a great album. I have them all except the first 2. If I had to chose only 1 album to keep it would be Great Is Our Sin.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 8:46am
Artist: Pestilence
Album: Malleus Maleficarum



Verdict: I've had an up and down relationship to Pestilence in the past. I remember really enjoying Testimony of the Ancients, finding Spheres interesting and thought Doctrine was a piece of shit. Debut album Malleus Maleficarum finds them more in thrash metal mood and it's a pretty solid release.

What I Buy It? Possibly, but I'd prefer to get Testimony of the Ancients based on my memory of that album.


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 8:52am
Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Brilliant band and that's a great album. I have them all except the first 2. If I had to chose only 1 album to keep it would be Great Is Our Sin.

Ironically I didn't put that one on my list. Picked The Outer Ones, Deathless and Chaos of Forms. I'll still check out Great is Our Sin of course. 


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 4:18pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Artist: Pestilence
Album: Malleus Maleficarum



Verdict: I've had an up and down relationship to Pestilence in the past. I remember really enjoying Testimony of the Ancients, finding Spheres interesting and thought Doctrine was a piece of shit. Debut album Malleus Maleficarum finds them more in thrash metal mood and it's a pretty solid release.

What I Buy It? Possibly, but I'd prefer to get Testimony of the Ancients based on my memory of that album.


Pestilence really smashed it out of the park with Consuming Impulse. I love it more than the albums either side of it.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 30 May 2020 at 11:40pm
That's on the confessions list too. Coming up sooner rather than later on the randomised list. 

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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 31 May 2020 at 12:43am
Yeah, all of the first three Pestilence albums are great, but Consuming Impulse is on a whole other level. Really emotionally and musically powerful stuff.

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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 4:42am
Artist: Virgin Steele
Album: The Marriage of Heaven and Hell Part One



Verdict: Virgin Steele is one of those bands I had a phase with, but have since soured a lot on. Possibly due to their more recent records sucking so much. This one is from their USPM period, which is their best period, and I actually own Part 2 of The Marriage of Heaven and Hell and have a high rating on it so obviously liked it at the time. This one seems merely OK though. Some excellent riffs here and there, but overall a very bloated 70 minute album.

Would I Buy It? Maybe if it was a £1 or something. 


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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 6:22am
^ One of those bands on the face of it I should Like but never really got into them or felt the urge to buy anything I've heard.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2020 at 7:20am
Artist: Hannes Grossmann
Album: The Radial Covenant



Verdict: A very solid prog/tech death metal release that's always competent and sometimes displays a flair for brilliance. An act to pursue more. 

Would I Buy It? Yes. 


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2020 at 12:59pm
Artist: Dark Tranquillity
Album: The Gallery



Verdict: I have a couple of other Dark Tranquillity albums that I got in a second hand shop one time (although with Gorod's Leading Vision which was the real gem of that haul). Both are solid, but not as good as this one. I'm not the biggest fan of melodic death metal, but when done right it can be some real fist pumping stuff. This is done right.

Would I Buy It? Yes. 


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 11:31am
Artist: Faith No More
Album: Angel Dust



Verdict: This wasn't on my original list that I based this long neglected blog on, but I forced myself to try something I'd usually actively avoid. There is some interesting music here, but for the most part the vocals aren't my cup of tea at all. Still I'm glad to have challenged myself and tried something different. 

Would I Buy It? No. 


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 12:15pm
If you're checking out things you ordinarily wouldn't, I'd be curious to see what you would think of this as you like folk metal:
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/dirty-shirt/letchology" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/dirty-shirt/letchology

It's nu metal mixed with Romanian folk music (and Palinca is the only song with any sort of rapping on it which I know is a dealbreaker)


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Artist: Faith No More
Album: Angel Dust



Verdict: This wasn't on my original list that I based this long neglected blog on, but I forced myself to try something I'd usually actively avoid. There is some interesting music here, but for the most part the vocals aren't my cup of tea at all. Still I'm glad to have challenged myself and tried something different. 

Would I Buy It? No. 
Faith no More is definitely an aquired taste, and I know a lot of people who don´t enjoy them either. Me...I´m a pretty big fan.

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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2020 at 2:19pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Artist: Faith No More
Album: Angel Dust



Verdict: This wasn't on my original list that I based this long neglected blog on, but I forced myself to try something I'd usually actively avoid. There is some interesting music here, but for the most part the vocals aren't my cup of tea at all. Still I'm glad to have challenged myself and tried something different. 

Would I Buy It? No. 

I have this only because I bought a 5 disc set. I wouldn't have bought it on it's own.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 10:12am
At the moment the priority is trying things that are high rated but aren't normally something I'd listen to. I got Faith No More off the first page of RYM's overall metal chart. I'll be working my way through some of what's left as and when I feel like experimenting, though I can assure that the album ranked at number ten can just fuck right off. And probably number 29 as well. But I suppose the primary focus should instead be the two obvious omissions you're all going to frown at me for: Black Sabbath Vol 5 and Sabbath Blood Sabbath. Embarrassed

Of the alt metal stuff on there I'm open to Tool's Lateralus (I own Ænima and don't love it or dislike it) and System of a Down's Toxicity (perhaps the only band lumped into nu metal at the time (however incorrectly) that I didn't mind back in the day). Of the rest there's a Converge album which won't be my first for them either and an Agalloch album which is the same deal. The Boris album may get a track or two, but I'm most sceptical of drone metal out of all the genres I don't normally follow. 


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 11:59am
Ooh I like a bit of drone myself. Toxicity is a good album but not my favourite SOAD release. Jane Doe (I assume that’s the Converge album?) is brilliant but not an easy listen. The fact that there’s two early Sabbath albums you’ve not heard (really?) should in a fair world result in you being dragged out of your bed and publicly stripped of your metalhead identity. Shame on you 😉


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 12:07pm
Oh I wish I could say it's only two, but that's just the first page.

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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2020 at 4:51pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

System of a Down's Toxicity (perhaps the only band lumped into nu metal at the time (however incorrectly) that I didn't mind back in the day).


The funny thing is that System of a Down was nu metal in pretty much every way with their genre blending, heavy focus on groove and rhythm, and unique vocal variety, but since everyone liked them but hated nu metal historical revisionism called for taking that label away from them. LOL

Personally my favorite SoaD album is either Steal This Album! or Mesmerise, and that nu/folk metal album I posted here shares some similarities to SoaD in the vocal department.

Edit: Open to trying any generally highly rated industrial metal?


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 8:04am
I'm pretty sure you have a different definition of nu metal to everyone else Khaliq. Back in the day when I was first discovering metal and those were the bands getting a lot of airplay and media coverage, SOAD were absolutely not included beyond being mentioned in the same breath for sharing the spotlight of the time. It's not revisionism. To be honest metal as a whole could actually do with a ton of revisionism and not just in the alt/nu metal department. The lines between heavy / power / uspm / speed and even thrash are far more blurred than they need to be. 

I think the trouble with Nu is that many at the time didn't see it as a genre any different from its alt metal parent, instead thinking of it as a movement of popular alt metal bands (so I suppose by that definition you would have to include SOAD whether some like it or not) that had its day and died out, like the NWoBHM. Of course that's not actually true since you still get stuff tagged Nu released. 

RE: Industrial, it depends what it is. I can't say I'm super keen on the genre. I like a bit of Rammstein now and then but I don't play their stuff that often. My experience of the genre is limited beyond that but everything else I've tried has ended up low to mid rated. 


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Posted By: MorniumGoatahl
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 8:19am
To be honest the difference between alt and nu back in the day was basically:

You like it = Alt
You hate it = Nu

Unless of course you were fully on the Nu bandwagon, then everything was Nu whether you liked a band or not. 


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 10:23am
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

I'm pretty sure you have a different definition of nu metal to everyone else Khaliq. Back in the day when I was first discovering metal and those were the bands getting a lot of airplay and media coverage, SOAD were absolutely not included beyond being mentioned in the same breath for sharing the spotlight of the time. It's not revisionism. To be honest metal as a whole could actually do with a ton of revisionism and not just in the alt/nu metal department. The lines between heavy / power / uspm / speed and even thrash are far more blurred than they need to be.


I'll be the first to admit that my definitions of certain genres are different, especially when it comes to early metal. However, the thing is that nu metal was always about metal bands with different influences and their own unique take while sharing some common ground with others, so very few bands sound exactly alike. Plus there's the misconception that it has to have an influence of rap/hip hop (though I'd say SoaD has some influence), when not every band did. As for the common themes among most bands, SoaD shared the often idiosyncratic vocals, focus on syncopation and rhythm in the guitar, few guitar solos, among others. Example, these two songs share some of these similarities:


Not looking to change anyone's opinion, but hopefully that maybe helps my reason make sense.

I'd recommend checking out the first few metal albums from Die Krupps or Oomph! in regards to industrial metal, as they're pretty close in sound to Rammstein.


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2020 at 11:39am
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

I'm pretty sure you have a different definition of nu metal to everyone else Khaliq. Back in the day when I was first discovering metal and those were the bands getting a lot of airplay and media coverage, SOAD were absolutely not included beyond being mentioned in the same breath for sharing the spotlight of the time. It's not revisionism. To be honest metal as a whole could actually do with a ton of revisionism and not just in the alt/nu metal department. The lines between heavy / power / uspm / speed and even thrash are far more blurred than they need to be. 

I think the trouble with Nu is that many at the time didn't see it as a genre any different from its alt metal parent, instead thinking of it as a movement of popular alt metal bands (so I suppose by that definition you would have to include SOAD whether some like it or not) that had its day and died out, like the NWoBHM. Of course that's not actually true since you still get stuff tagged Nu released. 

RE: Industrial, it depends what it is. I can't say I'm super keen on the genre. I like a bit of Rammstein now and then but I don't play their stuff that often. My experience of the genre is limited beyond that but everything else I've tried has ended up low to mid rated. 

Highlighted bit is completely true. SOAD didn't have the stupid downtuning and simplistic riffs, had a singer that could actually sing, and occasionally got out of second gear.




Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:26am
I suppose in order of personal interest I feel I should know the following genres better, since they intrigue me the most and I only have a select few albums from each:

Stoner Metal (and Stoner Rock really)
Sludge Metal
Doom Metal (I know this best of these three, but I have a lot to hear)

Genres I know some stuff about but not extensively:

Thrash Metal (I'm always on power metal's team in the power v thrash war, but I do like to dabble in thrash every now and then)
Viking Metal
Folk Metal (you may find that hard to believe but most of my folk interest is within a set few bands)
Speed Metal
Avant-Garde Metal
Gothic Metal
Heavy Metal (there's a ton of classic heavy metal bands I've never listened to or certain key albums from those I have)
Death Metal (same situation as Heavy to be honest. Got a fair bit of tech death, some melodic, but years my only normal DM album owned was Death's Leprosy)

Genres I feel like I should force myself to try more:

Alternative Metal (parent)
Metalcore (+ subs though probably not Electronicore and Nintendocore)
Grindcore

As above but more apprehensive:

Drone Metal
Industrial Metal
Neoclassical Metal
Nu Metal (extensive rapping is a total deal breaker and occasional rapping a detraction - this is almost on the tier below)

No interest:

Rap Metal
Funk Metal
Glam Metal
Trance Metal

Now if anyone is the opposite of me and doesn't know much about Black, Power, Prog, USPM or Symphonic then I'm the one to talk to. 


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 9:34am
From page 2 of RYM's chart, my unheard albums are as follows:

  • Slayer - South of Heaven (probably a pointless exercise given my past experience with them)
  • Cryptopsy - None So Vile (long on my death metal to check out list)
  • Motorhead - Ace of Spades & Overkill (probably going to be shamed for not having ever heard these either)
  • Mercyful Fate - Don't Break the Oath & Melissa (I think I know more King Diamond than his band)
  • Bathory - Blood Fire Death (a missing piece of BM history for sure)
  • Boris - Pink (real unsure what I'd make of it but at least it's not tagged drone)
  • Black Sabbath - Sabotage (another unheard Sabbath album...)
  • Isis - Oceanic (I've heard Panopticon and liked it. I've never moved onto another one of their albums though)


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2020 at 11:36am

  • Slayer - South of Heaven - Quite different to Reign in Blood
  • Cryptopsy - None So Vile - Always found this band overrated
  • Motorhead - Ace of Spades & Overkill - Haven't aged particularly well, but contain a few surprises
  • Bathory - Blood Fire Death - Gets quite addictive once you have heard it a time or two
  • Black Sabbath - Sabotage - Old and patchy, with really shit artwork!



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