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Vehemency
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That was a good review. I totally understand how you don't see it as a total masterpiece, especially knowing that you're maybe not so much into traditional and "monotonous" lo-fi black metal. And Si Monumentum has those elements, although it's indeed more progressive (in the real meaning of that word).
I always find it hard to do 5 star reviews, thus I usually avoid doing them. It's so hard to convince anyone why some album deserves 5 stars because it's somehow really personal, and the reasons unclear to even myself. Can't be easily put into text. But maybe some day I finally get to review this album too, hehe. My next 5 star reviews will most likely be some DRUDKH albums. |
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UMUR
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I�ve actually written a review of Si Monumentum for PA: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=212649. I�ll take a few more listens and see if I get a new perspective of things before posting it here on MMA. I thought it was a very good album but there were flaws that I didn�t enjoy. Things tend to change the more you listen and I�m pretty stuborn when I hear something I find intriguing even though it might not be instantly likable.
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Vehemency
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^ That is one hell of an EP! Among my favourite releases. The 2007 album is even more chaotic but as a whole it's not as strong as K�n�se.
Deathspell Omega has great split material also that is often overlooked. They are long tracks (~20 minutes) and definitely worth checking out if one likes this newer style of DsO: - "Diabolus Absconditus" (from "Crushing the Holy Trinity" split) - "Mass Grave Aesthetics" (from "From the Entrails to the Dirt" split) - "Chaining the Katechon" (from "Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum" split) Anyways, Si Monumentum remains as my favourite release, it's the most nostalgic and definitely speaks to me the most. Followed by K�n�se. |
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UMUR
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I�m listening to this one right now.: Deathspell Omega - K�n�se
It�s quite a demanding release but I�m really impressed. I�ve reviewed most of their earlier material and I didn�t care much for it, but this is where it starts to get really interesting IMO.
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Vehemency
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I should get the rest of the re-releases, I think there's a least 2 of them out that I don't have yet. Have heard them all downloaded, though. The self-titled is probably my favourite. |
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Phonebook Eater
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Well. I'm interested in old school, since I already am pretty familiar with extreme/black prog metal.
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Murphy
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^^^ In the mail now. I'll let you know what I think when it arrives.
-------------- Other news I've been listening to bucket-loads of Paysage d'Hiver, I've got pretty much everything he has released. A lot of material to get through, but totally immersive and rewarding. Many years ago you could d/l most of his albums from the website, but I think nearly all the demo's have been re-issue in CD format. Any other fans? |
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Guai ai gelidi mostri �Everything that is doddering, squint-eyed, infamous, sullying, and grotesque is contained for me in this single word: God� Andr� Breton
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UMUR
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^Good call
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Murphy
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I hear you, heard too many raw old school albums in my teens to be actively search for more. Too much music out there to be bogged down.
Just listened to 'Shiva Interfere' on youtube, sounds like my poison. Hard to find good avant-garde in metal. So I think it will be my starting point.
I assume the Manson reference is for the negative :P Only time I've heard him was when he was out in Sydney. Was sitting in a cafe about 2 kilometres from the venue and was still infiltrated with noise! For what it's worth you might be right about Supervillain Outcast I'm not so enamored by the polished sound. Tho' if 666 international is a hit at home I'll test the waters. |
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Guai ai gelidi mostri �Everything that is doddering, squint-eyed, infamous, sullying, and grotesque is contained for me in this single word: God� Andr� Breton
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UMUR
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^I guess it depends on what your poison is. The first two albums are pretty raw old school black/ thrash metal and don�t interest me much. 666 International is a really twisted experimental black metal album with industrial elements. Rather progressive actually. I love that one and consider it a masterpiece. Supervillain Outcast is much more polished and varies from blasting industrial black/ death metal to what I would call goth influenced metal ( there�s a song that�s close to Manson on that one). I love that one too, but if you�re mostly an old school black metal guy I�m not sure if you�ll enjoy Supervillain Outcast much.
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Murphy
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I know Ved Buens Ende well, but any recommendations on D�dheimsgard? Or is it best to work linearly through their discography? |
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Guai ai gelidi mostri �Everything that is doddering, squint-eyed, infamous, sullying, and grotesque is contained for me in this single word: God� Andr� Breton
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UMUR
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I mostly like the twisted experimental stuff like D�dheimsgard, Ved Buens Ende and their ilk.
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bonnek
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I wouldn't say I'm a fan of the genre as such but I sure love some of the big names there: Enslaved, Immortal, Satyricon, Darkthrone, Shining, and mutated forms such as Dissection, Agalloch, Not much into the whole symphonic black metal stuff. |
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Vehemency
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There are certain gems in the depressive / suicidal area of black metal that are really good, otherwise I don't really care about it, especially right now there are millions of worthless bands trying to imitate bands like Shining, Lifelover etc. It's getting ridiculous. Basically every 15 year old black metal fan (sorry my generalization) has its own "depressive black metal" myspace project with a drum machine in the background and then some lazy guitar picking on top. That's how the trends always go, I guess.
Hypothermia is one of the only bands I really dig in this certain style, although from my perspective it's a bit different, in that it creates a void of emotions, a void of everything. It is as stale and pale as music can get, and in that it's somehow beautiful and sick the same time. (I'm particularly referring to the album "K�ld" and generally all the material from those years, the newer material is leaning towards more melodic post-rockish stuff which isn't totally bad either.) Edited by Vehemency - 09 May 2010 at 10:32am |
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idiotPrayer
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well i didn't mean it 100 % literally but what i'm saying is that i like stuff (music, films etc) that's powerful, and that can affect my feeling and mind. i'm not very much into the shallow stuff that doesn't do anything to me. maybe i am a bit weird
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Citizen Erased
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Forgive my ignorance, but why would you want to listen to music that makes you want to kill yourself?
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idiotPrayer
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i love music that's emotionally powerful, that's the difference with most black and death metal. i grabbed a bethlehem/benighted in sodom 7" spilt last week and listening to it makes me so depressed want to kill myself
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Murphy
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With Enslaved, it really depends on your background. Isa, from what I can tell (from your tastes) would be your safest/best start. This one is close to half half, progressive to black metal influences. If you were interested in a classic Norwegian slant, I'd head straight for Vikingligr Veldi, but I don't think that will work for you. |
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Guai ai gelidi mostri �Everything that is doddering, squint-eyed, infamous, sullying, and grotesque is contained for me in this single word: God� Andr� Breton
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Time Signature
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I like the old Celtic Frost stuff, which is apparently considered black metal, but I've never thought of it as black metal myself. Other than that, I think "Battles in the North" and I seem to remember liking "Nightside Eclipse", too. Ceremony were also pretty good; they released a couple of black metal demos, and then they started gravitating towards progressive metal. Their demos are hard to come by nowadays, and are probably worth a lot of money.
The vocalist of one of my bands is a big fan of raw and dirty black metal, and he's also an avid vinyl collector, so he has records by a whole bunch of obscure black metal acts from all over the world. Our drummer likes black metal, too, so there are some black metal influences in out own music as well. |
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Any Colour You Like
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I really don't enjoy vanilla black metal, I find it boring and derrivative. However I do enjoy metal bands that blend black influences or styles, like Agalloch, Alcest and the likes.
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