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Topic: Prog Death Fusion?
Posted By: Charcaroth
Subject: Prog Death Fusion?
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 3:50am
Death, Cynic, Atheist, Pestilence,  what are some other good bands that mix progressive and jazz fusion with death metal? Let's get a good list going and include everything we can think of that fits, but in particular, I'm looking for any overlooked classic stuff, and the most complex and "spacey" examples out there. Thanks in advance for any recommendations. Smile


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 6:25am
Sadist - Tribe
.. Album Cover
Theory in Practice - The Armageddon Theories
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/7/4/4/744.jpg">The Armageddon Theories cover (Click to see larger picture)
Tholus - Constant
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/5/2/2/152208.jpg">Constant cover (Click to see larger picture)
Terminal Function - Measuring the Abstract
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/8/5/3/185322.jpg">Measuring the Abstract cover (Click to see larger picture)
Blotted Science - The Machinations of Dimentia
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/5/5/2/155202.jpg">The Machinations of Dementia cover (Click to see larger picture)
Alarum - Eventuality
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/5/7/8/4/57840.gif">Eventuality cover (Click to see larger picture)
Capharnaum - Fractured
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/6/8/5/36855.jpeg">Fractured cover (Click to see larger picture)
Martyr - Warp Zone
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/9/6/1/2961.jpg">Warp Zone cover (Click to see larger picture)
Martyr - Feeding the Abscess
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/3/4/1/134128.jpg">Feeding the Abscess cover (Click to see larger picture)
Gorguts - Obscura
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/3/0/0/9/3009.JPG">Obscura cover (Click to see larger picture)
Ingenium - 2nd Sun in the Eclipse
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/5/0/4/150477.jpg">2nd Sun in the Eclipse cover (Click to see larger picture)
 


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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 9:20am
Obscura: "Cosmogenesis"

It's tech and kind of progressive - there are some baroque tendencies and their bass player is a flamengo jazz bassist who also performed in Pestilence's "Spheres". There's not a lot of jazz influence, but it surely qualifies as progressive death metal.


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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 9:10pm
I'll be curious to see some suggestions.  Often when I hear a band that mixes jazz fusion with death metal, the result sounds too forced. 

That being said, I'm a big fan of Death and Cynic, but the only Death album with an obvious jazz influence is Human.  Atheist is cool too, especially Unquestionable Presence.  I like some of what I've heard from Pestilence, but not as much as the others I've mentioned.

One band/album that somewhat qualifies would be Quo Vadis and their Defiant Imagination album.  Not overly jazzy, but they are highly influenced by Death (who were mentioned earlier).  Steve Digiorgio even plays on the album.




Posted By: Charcaroth
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2010 at 9:12pm
Lots of very good suggestions! Thanks, everyone. 

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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 9:37pm
I also have to mention the latest album by Ihsahn, After.  It's one of the best albums I've heard this year.  Definitely very proggy, and some jazz I suppose (some tracks feature sax).




Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Ingenium - 2nd Sun in the Eclipse
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/5/0/4/150477.jpg">2nd Sun in the Eclipse cover (Click to see larger picture)
 


Couldn't find them on MMA yet. Wink


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 2:28am
Try now: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ingenium.aspx - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ingenium.aspx Cool

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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2010 at 6:16pm
I say YES to Prog Death Fusion!

Okay Math Lab Students! Are you readddy teww rrrRRRochh!

. . . yeah me too.

So yeah, again, I'm gonna' put these up with a List of other Tech-Thrash/Death/Math Metal
mad scientists when I have less projects to work on, so bare with me as the goal will be
before 2113 (Thats when the Solar Federation has been destroyed).

This will be Part 1 because I have a HUGE list Tongue (I'm sticking with the Death Metal theme
here, or what was considered Death Metal the time it was released).
Note: These are in various degrees and styles of "Technicality", listeners aggression is
advised.
  Also, some these have multiple styles of vocals.
Give yourselves some time to listen throughout a song, because moods change
throughout any given track, especially for bands you may have heard of or checked out
before but never got the "whole picture", sit back and enjoy the technical carnage
.

PART I  (In no order):

1. Necrophagist (2004):


2. Meshuggah (1995):


3. Rosicrusian (1994):


4. Extol (2000):

(these guys were very much ahead of their time, 4 to 5 different
vocal styles from "1" singer and . . . Christians from Norway!)

5. Mourning Sign (1996):


6. Loudblast (1993):


7. Special Defects (1997):


8. Carcass ("Necroticism" to "Heartwork" era) (1993):


9. Sabbat (u.k.) (More-so "Dreamweaver") (1989):

(Probably  one of the 1st Thrash/Death Metal bands to add Pagan/Folk
with technicality.  Also the "Shakespearian/Dickens" Old English lyrics
are unmatched since John Arch's unique lyrics w/Fates Warning!)

10. Oppressor (1996):

(One of the MOST overlooked great Tech-Math/Death Metal bands!
Now we have some great bands from the past few years doing what
Oppressor did more than a decade('s) ago).

11. Darkane (2001):


Okay thats Part 1, I'll work on Part 2 when more folks put up more or if I killed the Thread Wink.



. . . till next time :headbang2::guitarbang2::bass::drums::headbang: 



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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:34am
Never listened to Oppressor. I guess IŽll give them a try. Thanks for the recommendations.

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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 3:41am
Holy Crap!

I stumped UMUR!!!??? Wow! . . . thats kind of an honour Wink.
. . . By the way, Martyr and Theory in Practice are awesome!


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 4:45am
^LOL

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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 6:18am
Carcass' "Necroticism" - a masterpiece and certainly qualifies as prog death metal :-)

Also, check out the Danish 90 underground death metal act Cyanotic. They were more of a melodic death metal act, but their early stuff was also kind of prog - especially a track called "Eclipsed Existence". Check out their Myspace page and scroll down towards the last tracks in the player.

http://www.myspace.com/cyanoticdk


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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 4:31pm

Prog Death Fusion would be the best thing since...well...prog?

It would be so cool ecspecially if the band could get their hand on some electronic saxes'. That would be cool.
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= AWESOME


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 5:47pm
^ That just gave me an interesting thought, Brian.

What the hell would a band with Chuck Schuldiner, Roine Stolt, and Miles Davis sound like? LOL


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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 6:23pm
It would be pretty awesome exept for the fact that Chuck is dead, and i don't know about Miles Davis.

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by The Block The Block wrote:

It would be pretty awesome exept for the fact that Chuck is dead, and i don't know about Miles Davis.


He's dead too. R.I.P... those are two awesome musicians that I'll never get to see live...


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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 7:18pm
I'm sure there is something a bit more like the 3 above but, heres my take . . .

Just bring in Coletrane instead of Miles and remove Singer (though they also have
a Female Vocalist at times):


Big smile



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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2010 at 7:20pm
That is some pretty good sax, which for me makes a pretty good song Big smile

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 12:27am
If youŽre looking for amplified horns, take a listen to the King Kong track on Uncle Meat (1969) by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention.

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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 09 Nov 2010 at 1:13am
Did someone ask for Death Metal Horns!? (Sax?) . . .


:guitarbang2:
:sax:

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