is there some NONE PA members here
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Topic: is there some NONE PA members here
Posted By: Balthamel
Subject: is there some NONE PA members here
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 2:40pm
just curious since the only one I see here is the same folks that I chat with on PA (and all of them are great people whom i all respect and admire)  , but are there some here that are members who have no conection to PA , and you may come from another community also.or this will be PA 2, and offcurse that is great but yeah this is my curiosity talking and it hungers for interesting pure metal heads  |
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Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 4:12pm
It'll be awhile before all the trve metalheads realize that this site is better than metal-archives.com 
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 4:17pm
yeah hard to change conservative  minds (or eyes) which is not ment to sound like all metal heads are conservative (mostly this accure more in black metal ) and one other thing Ive seen in metal forum when the REAL metal heads are arguing the tones can be realy harsh, more harsh then in PA so the admins have to be allert about that issue |
Posted By: RuneWalsh2112
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 5:05pm
I already invited some of my non-prog friends to check this site out, but just like you're saying
conservatism is the key here.  -------------  Wait... are those suspenders?!? |
Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 5:35pm
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I come from a non-PA background. Just randomly came across MMA yesterday while browsing PA (I do that sometimes but I never registered or anything). I'm such a stereotypical black metal conservationist that I won't give up with Metal Archives. ;-) I think the discography section is good there, and I think it's a great site to look for information about releases. Also, the amount of "unknown" bands is overwhelming there - and I happen to like quite obscure acts. So it's a little problem for me here to not find all the bands that I would like to write about, but after all, this is still a very young site (and I can do something for the lack of bands here that I listen to!). I like the review system & overall style of MMA, so I'm happy to contribute reviews here and see this site grow! Metal Archives surely isn't the sole source of truth, in fact, there's lots of errors in there. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 5:37pm
yeah.... as much as I love our PA'rs... looking forward to seeing others join in. Who knows... perhaps I can make RPI fans of them  |
Balthamel wrote:Posted By: Bangwhistle
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 12:24am
| I have only used PA as a very occassionla reference, and was never a member. Metal on the other hand.....happy to be here. Thanks all. |
Posted By: IknowSATAN
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 2:54am
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I don't come from PA, I just saw an advertisment about this site and wanted to see whats with it.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/IknowSATAN/?chartstyle=Awesome35"> 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:06am
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It�ll take a long time to build a database that can match metal archives extensive artist database ( It�s not long ago that they reached an impressive 70.000 artists), but what should make MMA a much more interesting site to visit is the exposure of the reviews on the front page with album covers ( It�s always been the feature I loved most about PA) and the opportunity to become involved as a collaborator on the site. As someone mentioned we should take great care that the tone and manners of members are kept in a civilized way, just as it is on PA. That way MMA will be the same great place to visit as PA is.
Oh and don�t worry we�ll reach the 70.000 artist mark sometime in the future, it just requires that people are interested in helping out adding new artists and their albums. So to anyone not familiar with the PA concept, you shouldn�t worry if you find MMA a bit lacking right now. It�s a completely new site, but once the minor errors that always occur on new sites are dealt with, I�m sure MMA will be the place to visit for metal reviews on the web. And bios too ( Note that Metal-Archives don�t necessarily have bios for all bands in the database. Mostly for the bigger acts). Well I didn�t mean to come down on Metal-Archives. I just wanted to point out the differences and point out why MMA could be an interesting place to visit. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:42am
I honestly completely dislike metal-archives. It's got a very extensive database, but the people in the forums are complete a****les. I participated on the site for a few days, only to get criticized for my personal tastes in metal. AND the and pages don't have biographies, which isn't very helpful. I'm confident that if we give this site a year or two, and make sure that our members are respectful people, MMA will become MUCH better than metal-archives I rest my case. ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:46am
and seconded.... give M@X his props... the man knows how to run a website.. ie... he puts good people in charge of it to run it for him. Not sure, since M@X is more metal than prog, if he will taking a more hands-on approach to his site.. if he doesn't... he'll have someone good to take care of his baby.. and first thing they'll do... is make sure the strengths of PA's become the strengths of this site. This is the community side of it. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:49am
Exactly. The reason why I've been such an active member in PA is that it's populated with a generally respectable crowd, and the administrators do a fantastic job at monitoring for trolls. ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:49am
I have often used EM (or Metal-Archives) for reference, especially when I have to review metal bands for Progressor - which happens more often than you would believe - and have to agree with Jeff. Obviously, I've never used the forum, or even looked at it, but have no trouble whatsoever in believing that it is visited by less than respectful people. However, if I may, let's try to avoid bashing other sites as much as we can, even when they deserve it. The last thing we want is for someone from some other site to come here and start a flame war - and let's remember how p****d off we were every time someone bashed PA on another board. |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:53am
 I'll never forget that when I introduced myself to that site as an Opeth fan, people went on and on about how much they "suck" That was when I knew it was time to leave. ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:54am
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the trick is.. to get them to come here... not to defend their site... but to come to this one and help make it better. As far as any miscreants coming here to start problems... we'll deal with them as they come. Either a carrot.. or a .44 Navy colt at high noon on that note... let's just leave mentions of others sites not directly related to the tasks at hand alone. |
Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 10:49am
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I find it quite funny that a thread for none PA members is being dominated by PA'ers, including myself.
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Posted By: kshskang
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:53pm
| I was never a part of PA but my good friend Ian, an active member of PA, introduced me to this site and it's nice to be able to help this new site develop. |
Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 9:54pm
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PA member here but I stopped posting there basically. I am however still a regular at metalguitarist.org, ultimatemetal.com and sevenstring.org (it's virtually a metal site even if 7 string guitars are used outside metal), and I came here just looking for another site to just chat about some metal with some people |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 4:36am
  ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....  |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 5:35am
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PA member and I don't know why pple are saying they are treated badly here - i have actually made a couple of new friends over the last week.
It is sad if this genre breeds pple that are not respectable - to say Opeth is crap is plain rude. i dont say that any band is worse than another except in fun to a friend perhaps as we stir each other. nothng wtrong with that but when it gets personal its time to leave. as that doesnt do anybody any good.
I hope we can all be friends and enjoy this site as much as we do the PA.
-------------  GLAM METAL!
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Posted By: RuneWalsh2112
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 7:27am
^ Well said mate! 
------------- Wait... are those suspenders?!? |
Posted By: Stephen
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 8:46pm
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i'm not a PA user but actually one of my friend, GATOT, is the honorary collaborator there, probably you know him as a big Marillion-Fish fan :) |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 8:57pm
My brother frequents the sevenstring.org message boards. I don't recall what his user name is, but he has (or used to have) an avatar of Spock from Star Trek. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2010 at 5:32am
Yeah, Gatot is one of my favourite reviewers - used his reviews as a guide when I was first getting into Marillion. -------------  
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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 12:52am
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never go on PA Also, THREAD REVIVAL BATMAN!!! -------------  
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 1:50am
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It only makes sense that at first, a large population from this site would also be PA-ers. I mean, were else is it going to start from? As many here know I am a long time member of PA (sadly now halfway up the first page on the memberlist....) But it's ok because I see more people not from PA We're like America to the British Empire. Grown out of the great power but now growing on our own and will soon rule the internet ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 5:49am
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What I find most interesting about this thread ( and a bit sad too) are all the people who initially came over from PA with a lot of good intentions and interest in MMA but soon vanished into thin air. In the future I�m sure the members on MMA will be a good mix of people who came here from PA and people who found MMA through other sources. MMA ( while still lacking in some areas) is now, one year after it went live, a rather well established site with a philosophy of its own. There�s no denying that MMA was spawned by PA, but ultimately the way things are done here are quite different from how PA is run. At least when we�re talking Collab activities.
Some of us who came/ come from PA probably need to adjust to that, but it�ll happen in time. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 10:58am
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I think there's a lot of people in collab position who are from PA but have never been collabs there, so that brings some freshness I believe. ------------- http://iamthreepeople.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">  <- Click on this!
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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 11:54am
I fall into that category. Not knowing what it's like behind the scenes of PA, I can't help doing things a bit different. I came from a metal background before ever hearing King Crimson, or knowing that Genesis were more than "We Can't Dance".  ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 12:30pm
So do I. I found this site while browsing through PA, but I've been just a little groupie there and I can't say I know the site and forum really well. Besides, just like you Dan, I'm not a real proghead - I've been listening to metal at first place, the more unconventional it was, the better, but I'm not into all of those "classic" prog metal bands like DT, Ayreon or Queenryche, not to mention prog rock classics. ------------- http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 1:28pm
Oh you're 100% right Jonas, and that's how it should be.
I know finally I made a PMT! Same as the above, I am a lowly forum member (though one who's closing in on 24,000 posts  ) so I have nothing I can do on PA, though the PMT there seems a wreck always.... Besides I'm glad we've learned from mistakes and seem bent on not repeating them.And let's hope more outsiders find this site, join and help build it more! Prog is great but I will always be a metalhead. ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 2:48pm
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Well it might not be apparent for regular members of PA, but the PMT is actually in a very good shape at the moment under the strict leadership of Karl ( Bonnek). Things are moving along much more effective now that the team have a real leader. That commands respect. So here�s one to you Karl. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 3:24pm
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Oh yeah I have no idea, I just hear rumblings about there being a ton to do and this and that so that's all I can go on. I also wonder how the inner workings of choosing members for it works....but I'll leave that alone. Im done being bitter about it anyway ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:13pm
Yes im from PA, but since im actualy more into metal right now then prog, this site will suit me fine i think.  ------------- http://www.riseaboverecords.com/wp-content/uploads/BLOOD-CEREMONY-new-2016.jpg |
Posted By: FallingxSkies
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2012 at 8:33pm
| haha sometimes I feel like a n00b or something xD i've never heard of PA or any other sites like that. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 12:25am
This site is a more recent sister to progarchives.com, which is a similar thing but for progressive rock. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 1:59am
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There is a sister site dedicated to jazz too: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/ ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 1:21pm
| I have an account on PA, but I came here first, and I only visit the PA forums occasionally. |
Posted By: FallingxSkies
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 1:34pm
| oh thats cool :D i'll check out those sites ^^ (I like jazz helps me sleep which is awesome since ya know insomnia sucks) |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 1:50pm
| JMA's discussion isn't very lively tbh |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 3:00pm
Like me. I was very active on PA ages ago, but I'm visiting less this site since I became a collab here. I only visit PA ocasionally to see something new in the PA's free songs/albums thread (same on JMA). |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 4:23pm
Now there's a ringing endorsement for jazz if ever I've heard one.  ------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: FallingxSkies
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 9:18pm
| Lol need to spread the truth xD |
Posted By: FallingxSkies
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2012 at 9:19pm
really? well I guess I should expect that since jazzy people are all smooth and stuff
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Posted By: buttsled
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 4:38pm
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I use PA as a reference source (I am a sucker for those lists) but have never posted on a forum over there.
I didn't realize there was a forum tbh, and it took me a second to figure out this was a reference site, too, not just a forum.
Totally unrelated, but I frequent another band's forum (which is loaded with dickheads) so this place is very refreshing. I actually registered a username and began posting on that forum 10 years and one day ago.
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 4:55am
They asked me to stop suggesting jazz bands for inclusion because they couldn't keep up... so I'm outta there. ------------- 
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Posted By: FallingxSkies
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 11:12am
| Ha they couldn't handle the awesomeness eh? but yeah I looked at it and wasn't that interested decent selection though :P |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 9:07pm
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I've never signed on to ProgArchives, probably never will, and probably couldn't even bring myself to doing it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 10:36pm
All the discussion there outside of the krautrock and rio -related threads is either completely incomprehensible or just plain silly. And the polls section is ridiculous (in a terrible way) |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 6:56pm
I was kinda more concerned about how much political correctness there probably is over there. -------------
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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 7:30pm
I think you would be very pleased to hear that I once saw some guy on PA say that Russia was much better off under Soviet rule than it is now under Putin. And he wasn't joking or exaggerating, he actually believes that.
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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 8:16pm
Judging by what's going on in Russia with Putin in power, I think the guy might be actually right. It's obviously choosing between two terrible evils, but at least communism had an ideology behind it. It was warped but still better than Putin's nationalist propaganda. As for PA, even though my presence there was very short, I'm glad I do not frequent this site (and its forum) anymore. ------------- http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 8:58pm
Stalin starved people in Ukraine. In consequence, they had to eat their own children to stay alive. From 1917 to 1980, the communist party was responsible for over 120 million deaths. Don't get me wrong, Putin is an awful cunt, but to say Russia is doing worse under his rule than under the USSR is quite ignorant and odious to say the least.
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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 9:27pm
I'm from Poland dude, I know all that, believe me. Even if I was ignorant, I'd know that  The communist regime started to become less harsh after Stalin's death, that's one thing. Another thing is that opposition is still being killed and imprisoned (Anna Politkowska and Chodorkowski to name just a few). Furthermore, Putin himself was an agent of the KGB. Enough said. Situation in Russia was bad, it is still bad and it has to change.------------- http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - http://shrineofllyria.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2012 at 10:32pm
| Say what you will about the tenets of national socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos |
Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 5:55am
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That's still not what I totally mean. I don't want to go on there, post my reviews and be told that I'm being "too harsh" or that I'm using "too much profanity". I figure that it's bad enough here. -------------
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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 11:27am
Hey, the site is nice. Many great bands and songs for streaming! |
Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2012 at 8:46pm
------------- https://armchairmaestro.com/" rel="nofollow - My Music Blog |
Posted By: DT*RUSH
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 2:47am
Not me. I'm Prog_Traveller on there.  I don't think I have posted in this forum since I first joined though. I should probably come in here more often. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 3:04am
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According to your post count you�ve now posted 4 times on the MMA forum. ...regarding the PA debate I�ve had some great times on PA, and I still visit frequently. I�m not really that active there anymore, but I add an album, suggest artists to the PMT and post a review on occasion. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 6:35am
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I do have an account on PA, but it is rarely used. It's quite handy as a prog resource but at the end of the day if I asked myself if I actually like the site, then I'd probably say no. I could go into more detail but I'd only come off as bad-mouthing the site I'm afraid, so out of respect this is where I'll stop. ------------- Earn Money Online (NOT a scam): https://premium.gg2u.org?referrer=adg211288" rel="nofollow - GG2U https://adamsfilmcorner.quora.com/" rel="nofollow - Adam's Film Corner on Quora |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2012 at 1:54pm
Apart from the "reviews" thing, I do the same, Jonas. |
Posted By: DT*RUSH
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2012 at 8:59pm
| It's good to have a bunch of different websites/forums to visit. I'm on a few. Besides here and progarchives I'm also on yesfans, progressive ears, classic rock forums and I think at least one Rush site. I need to rediscover some online Rush forums. |
Posted By: progshine
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2012 at 10:01pm
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It's complicated, cause being an 'arm' of PA, MMA was first gathered for people from there. Some of the guys prefere here cause Metal is their thing. What I do know is that MMA needs a bit more divulgation ------------- Testing 1...2...3.. RAY, IT'S NOT WORKING! www.progshine.net Your resource of Prog Rock with weekly Podcasts, reviews, interviews and many more. 
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Posted By: Jbird
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2012 at 12:36pm
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I just came over from PA, someone sent me a PM about this site after I posted in a metal-related thread over there :) I'll probably be posting over here more often than PA eventually, I'm much more of a metal-head than a prog-head. As long as the metal-genre nazi's stay away.....I tend to classify metal as 'good' or 'bad', I don't really want to see arguments over stuff like 'band x is metalcore, not thrash metal' etc.
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