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Topic: 10 reasons why metal is garbage
Posted By: Time Signature
Subject: 10 reasons why metal is garbage
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 5:03am
The infamous(ly ridiculous) anti-metal club video:



How do you react to it? What are your opinions?


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Posted By: Sleepwalker
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 5:17am
I find it quite annoying to see things like this, but, in the end I couldn't really care for the generalizations and nonsense that those people make. They also make themselves look kind of dumb and immature, just look at 8. "Metal bitches talk shit and disses any genre that sells more than them... which is pretty much most genres". Surely, this vid says more about the makers than people who listen metal. 

Today I was going through some comments at a Dutch website and stumbled upon someone who said that people who listen to rock often aren't really intelligent. The irony. 


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 5:38am
What a pity.. I thought there was some opportunity for Admin action early in the morningLOL!


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 5:42am
It gets rusty in time? Ermm Tongue


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 5:48am
Originally posted by Sleepwalker Sleepwalker wrote:

I find it quite annoying to see things like this, but, in the end I couldn't really care for the generalizations and nonsense that those people make. They also make themselves look kind of dumb and immature, just look at 8. "Metal bitches talk shit and disses any genre that sells more than them... which is pretty much most genres". Surely, this vid says more about the makers than people who listen metal.


That's true. It's an interesting study in how to rhetorically undermine oneself by using really weak arguments. I pan on using and the debate it's caused it next time I teach a coruse in rhetoric.


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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 6:09am
LOL
 
That was actually quite funny.
 
One sentence I believe starts with "In my school...." Ermm
 
In other words, (A) my balls haven't dropped yet (B) I'm sick of all the talent these groovy metalheads get and (C) the only (loose) music terms I am aware of are the Hansons, Britney and Nelly the Elephant.
 
[No-one has quite explained yet that Nelly is a (c)rap artist.] Wink
 
 


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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 9:38am
I don't even know how to react to that.  


Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 12:55pm
Haha I'm thinking of making a reply video... 


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by Sleepwalker Sleepwalker wrote:

I find it quite annoying to see things like this, but, in the end I couldn't really care for the generalizations and nonsense that those people make. They also make themselves look kind of dumb and immature, just look at 8. "Metal bitches talk shit and disses any genre that sells more than them... which is pretty much most genres". Surely, this vid says more about the makers than people who listen metal. 

Today I was going through some comments at a Dutch website and stumbled upon someone who said that people who listen to rock often aren't really intelligent. The irony. 
 
Absolutely, what a load of generalised crap!


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 06 May 2010 at 1:40pm
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Haha I'm thinking of making a reply video... 


Yeah, do that. :-) It's a good exercise in debating ;-)


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 8:38am
I want that 6 minutes of my life back...
 
But I'm a sebior citzen...when I was 13 metal sold alot of records.
 
Listening to Devy, trying to forget that waste of white space and black text.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 2:29pm
Hmm.. in that video they managed to call us "angry at everything" and "having sex with Satan"...

Then they make a racist comment like "you're white people mostly from the suburbs, with our life on a fucking silver spoon".

Honestly, these people are idiots. I'm friends with many people who dislike metal, but they voice their opinion in a civil and respectful manner. You can say most of these "negative" things about every single subgenre, but these people don't like metal and decided to pick on us.

I can't stand people who stereotype everyone and everything.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 2:32pm
I also love how "violin and piano take more talent than guitar". LOL

There are classical guitarists out in the world as well... are they any less talented than a classical pianist?


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 3:05pm
Well I guess it�s good that he wrote his opinions down and didn�t just record them because obviously I�m deaf from listening to too much metal musicUnhappy. Well I actually found the whole thing a bit funny really. It�s just a little angsty teenager with too much time on his hands and not enough brains to make a valid critique. Let�s smile at thisSmile and turn up the volume once againRawksStone Deaf ForeverLOL

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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 7:25pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


There are classical guitarists out in the world as well... are they any less talented than a classical pianist?


Yep


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 07 May 2010 at 8:17pm
Once the holocaust was brought up, Godwin's law came into effect. The argument was essentially over. So I stopped watching.

In any event, there are and will probably always be haters who make blanket statements on anything, be it music, art, or even other stuff such as college rivalries or political opinions. People who make these types of videos have time to kill and probably aren't doing anything important themselves. They're undeveloped teenagers who know nothing. So pay them no mind.



Also, what's wrong with the Chinese Erhu?


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 2:46am
^yeah that�s a wonderful instrument.

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Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 3:13am
This person is rather uneducated and you could make the same (with some modifications) arguments about basically any other genre on earth. What you have here is extreme generalization, which is a rather close minded approach to looking at things. But, when all things are said and done, I really don't care. I'll continue to be a "metal bitch" with my "gay long hair" and enjoy my "emotionless and senseless" music.

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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 08 May 2010 at 4:10am
It's also interesting to observe how all the response-videos, many of which use weak arguments themselves, still manage to shoot down every single on of the ten so-called "reasons". 

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Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: 09 May 2010 at 9:06am
I was in stitches by the end, where he mentions the lack of minorities/women and then devotes a whole point to how ugly female metalheads are - as if this somehow explains why metal is rubbish. LOL


Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 7:48am
Excuse my language for just one moment of infantile rage...Angry  Whoever creates a video like that is a moronic, sexist, abusive, bullying, [@&#$]ed sod who has nothing better to do with thier time than to judge people for subjective, trivial reasons and pretend that they're some kind of brave 'big man' for doing so.
I hate people like this... similar guys to this git have genuinely made my life quite miserable over the years.
Most of them don't just ridicule people like us over computers, they enjoy segregating us in REAL LIFE too, and all we have to do is like rock music for to be treated like crap.
They (like the video sample) also tend to be disgustingly sexist. There are people out there who have made me feel unwanted and unattractive because I'm not tarted up like a trendy, because I wear my hair long, because I like my T-shirt and jeans instead of having most of my flesh exposed. They don't think you even deserve to be female just because your not a mindless sex object with no interest in any thing but the charts!
I APOLOGISE GREATLY FOR THE VENOM IN THIS POST, GENUINELY, BUT SUCH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY HURTFUL INDEED TO ME AND I FEEL IT IS A PROBLEM THAT SHOULD NOT BE HIDDEN. Stern Smile
aaaaaaaah! Now I feel much better, at least I've told my truth now. Smile


Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 8:31am
^
PS: People like this have even ridiculed my mother in the street! Angry (She's a rocker like myself)


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 9:34am
Sock it to them!!! ;-)

As you, and others, have indicated, the people behind this movie certainly are racist and sexist bigots with the cognitive and observational capacity of a mentally [@&#$]ed pre-teen school bully. My guess is, like others have stated, that the Anti-Metal Club people are just teenagers who are somehow envious of metallers.

Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

They (like the video sample) also tend to be disgustingly sexist. There are people out there who have made me feel unwanted and unattractive because I'm not tarted up like a trendy, because I wear my hair long, because I like my T-shirt and jeans instead of having most of my flesh exposed. They don't think you even deserve to be female just because your not a mindless sex object with no interest in any thing but the charts!


Basically, my guess is that their problem with you is that you're a freethinking and independent person who does not succumb to the pressure of mainstream society. I think they fear you because you're a stronger individual than them - they are just afraid of strong and intelligent women who they cannot dominate and manipulate.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 10:37am
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:



Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

They (like the video sample) also tend to be disgustingly sexist. There are people out there who have made me feel unwanted and unattractive because I'm not tarted up like a trendy, because I wear my hair long, because I like my T-shirt and jeans instead of having most of my flesh exposed. They don't think you even deserve to be female just because your not a mindless sex object with no interest in any thing but the charts!


Basically, my guess is that their problem with you is that you're a freethinking and independent person who does not succumb to the pressure of mainstream society. I think they fear you because you're a stronger individual than them - they are just afraid of strong and intelligent women who they cannot dominate and manipulate.


Amen to thatClap! I have experienced myself the fear some people have of women who are in some ways different from what society expects of them. It was only a few years ago that I was insulted and ridiculed as a 'bitter old maid', only because I dared to express my opinions. It is very sad to see that humankind seems to be going backwards in many respects, instead of progressing...


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:


Amen to thatClap! I have experienced myself the fear some people have of women who are in some ways different from what society expects of them. It was only a few years ago that I was insulted and ridiculed as a 'bitter old maid', only because I dared to express my opinions. It is very sad to see that humankind seems to be going backwards in many respects, instead of progressing...


I think it's always been a very human thing to attack or ostracize people who are different, because they are seen as a threat to the "cosmos" of the culture/community in question. Especially people who question "the way things are" are considered to be pathological in one way or another, because they constitute a danger to the perceived order of society.


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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 13 May 2010 at 7:55am
It is good to see your replies to that. Very nice indeed. Thank you both. Big smile


Posted By: idiotPrayer
Date Posted: 13 May 2010 at 10:42am
funnily enough i actually agree with some of these (2 only applies to 98 % of metal). still, the guy who made this has about the same level of musical intelligens as a cucumber.

about 6: metal doesn't promote it. the [@&#$]ed people that believe it does may follow it but they are really [@&#$]ed. 7 was quite hilarous too.

10 is the funniest though: what about rappers or others? the stereotype rapper wears a tent sized shirt and pants that would fit an elephant, and they are so proud of their brands and stuff, paying like 30 � for a basic shirt that some chinese kid has printed a picture on. all music genres have their stereotype outlooks. metalheads generally dress quite dark and so, with a t-shirt and a leather jacket. there are however the ones that take it a bit further, but the guy in the video says points out shit in the metal clan that is just or even more evident in his own.


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Posted By: Negoba
Date Posted: 13 May 2010 at 2:00pm
I thought the story goes that Dave Mustaine actually abandoned Satanism when a black priest wanted to mount him as some sort of ritual. As I've never even been given the opportunity to have sex with Satan even after 20 odd years of listening to Iron Maiden and whatnot, I'm a little skeptical about that one point.
 
 


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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 7:19am
   ^
AH HAHAHAHAHA!!! LOL
Just brilliant, Negoba.
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