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Topic: Old Metallica Still Has It!
Posted By: Nick Dilley
Subject: Old Metallica Still Has It!
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2012 at 9:15pm
Just thought I'd share a fun story.

I've long gotten over my Metallica fanboy days, but today as I was driving around with my mp3 player on shuffle, For Whom the Bells Tolls came on, and I didn't adjust my usually loud volume.

As I was waiting at a stop sign, an older lady pulled up next to me, and shot me a look then pulled forward so our windows (rolled-down) were no longer face to face. I giggled to myself, and thought that was then end of it, but the cross-traffic was thick, so we were stuck there together for a moment. In the, let's say, 3 minutes that followed, she kept doing double takes in my direction with a sour face, like she was going to lose her lunch and have uncontrollable diarrhea. LOL  The part in the intro where the whole band starts playing descending power chords particularly bothered her.

The reason I share this is because I've been in similar situations while playing As I Lay Dying, Burzum, Megadeth, In Flames, Shadows Fall, Dark Tranquility--you name it, it's happened a bunch--and NONE of them got a response as extreme as this one. I am surprised by this because some might consider For Whom the Bell Tolls a bit tame by the standards of those other bands. It just goes to show that doom-y, raw, chromaticism never fails to incite horror in the uninitiated!

Anyway, had a good laugh today...


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 1:07am
Yeah old Metallica rulesHeadbanger

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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 2:54am
Old Metallica definitely rules! Today there seems to be such a strong anti-Metallica sentiment in the metal community that people seem to forget how influential - and brilliant - their first for albums were. When people are busy bashing Lars Ulrich for being a lousy drummer, they seem to forget that the work he did on Kill 'Em All was pretty much genre-defining.

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 3:13am
Yep I agree, but they are not without fault themselves in ruining their own reputationEvil Smile. The portrait painted of Metallica in the "Some kind of Monster" documentary is pathetic (and that�s if I�m playing nice)Ermm

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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 3:37am
I agree in that one - watching "Some Kind of Monster" can still make me cringe. But that some of the members behave like dicks in that documentary does not, IMO, disqualify their music.

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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 7:38am
Strange, I just played Ride the Lightning in it's entirety for the first time in over a year a week or so ago...and thoroughly enjoyed it!

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 8:10am
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

I agree in that one - watching "Some Kind of Monster" can still make me cringe. But that some of the members behave like dicks in that documentary does not, IMO, disqualify their music.
 
No the actual music doWinkBig smileLOL


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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 11:44am
^Death Magnetic is actually pretty awesome IMO, and Beyond Magnetic is getting better every time I listen!

But yes, old Metallica still rock hard!


Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2012 at 9:09pm
Am I the only one here that thinks Master of Puppets sounds watered down and too tame?

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 1:50am
Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

^Death Magnetic is actually pretty awesome IMO, and Beyond Magnetic is getting better every time I listen!

But yes, old Metallica still rock hard!
 
I wasn�t being to serious. I like Death Magnetic tooSmile.


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 1:50am
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Am I the only one here that thinks Master of Puppets sounds watered down and too tame?
 
...well I can�t say that�s how I feel about it.


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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 6:28am
Me neither. But that's how I feel about Load and ReLoad.

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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 7:03am
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Am I the only one here that thinks Master of Puppets sounds watered down and too tame?

Probably.


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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 7:11am
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Am I the only one here that thinks Master of Puppets sounds watered down and too tame?
After you saying that Meshuggah isn't extreme metal, I thought nothing would surprise me. I was wrong Wink


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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 7:59am
I mean, come on.

This


compared to this


The cleaner production made it sound quieter and not as hard and heavy as Ride the Lightning and a lot of the riffs aren't really as interesting.  Even the soloing is weaker.


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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 8:02am
Well, some people even say that Metallica abandoned thrash metal after "Kill 'Em All". To me, however, all their albums up until the black album are among the finest thrash metal releases ever, each with its own attractions and highlights.

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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 9:16am
Yes, there are different reasons for liking one album over another, but that doesn't make one album objectively better than another.  It's all just opinion, and it is not invalid to like one thing over another, but what is invalid is to insist that other people ought to share the same opinion that you do.  In the end, all it is is a matter of "I like this, and dislike that - you like this and dislike that" and it really doesn't matter where people differ, just look for people who have commonalities and use that as a springboard for friendship.  Going the other way and searching for differences to argue about leads nowhere but anger and frustration and that is just pointless.

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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 10:02am
I agree. I mean, why get upset at other people's music tastes?

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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 10:54am
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Am I the only one here that thinks Master of Puppets sounds watered down and too tame?

I disagree, but when compared to the band's first two albums I can see why someone may think that.


Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2012 at 2:55pm
For me, Master of Puppets is eternal. They "tamed" their sound in Black Album IMO. For me, Black Album does not aged very well.


Posted By: Vic
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 6:33am
No, it is not watered down or tamed. there is nothing on Ride the Lightning that is as heavy or unrelenting as Battery or Damage Inc for example. On the other hand, as perfect as Ride the Lightning is (and it actually is, as are all first 4 albums), the musical brilliance in terms of originality, breaking frontiers and melting your face that are the compositions of Master of Puppets and Orion is pretty much godlike. :)



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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 7:31am
^Again Vic you should write some reviewsBig smile.

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Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 11:44am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:



^Again Vic you should write some reviewsBig smile.

Agreed.

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Posted By: Vic
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 11:56am
I wrote two of them today! I have an overwhelming sense of accomplishment coursing through me right now! Tongue

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 12:52pm
^Headbanger

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Posted By: buttsled
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2012 at 11:02pm
Old Metallica actually came up in my life recently , too.
I am a librarian and found all the books we have about metal and one of them is the top 500 metal songs of all time. Since I am a nerd I decided to listen all of the songs on the list (again, for the most part).
Needless to say there was tons of Metallica on the list and when revisiting it I was reminded of how much they FUCKING RULED.
 
Master of Puppets was and remains my favorite. I am baffled by those who think it's weak compared to previous albums (which actually came up in another book I found- A Metallica Encyclopedia of all things).
 
 


Posted By: ChaosAngel
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2012 at 6:22am
Metallica... hmm...

Yep.  First five until I die.  And yes, that DOES include the black album.

To be honest, I found Death Magnetic a bit sad and overblown.  It just never really got the old cardio-vascular amped like, say, ...And Justice For All (which, if I'm not mistaken, was the sound they were going for).  I was really hoping it would, too, but...

In short, old Metallica still does it, every time.



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