Progressive Nu Metal?
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Topic: Progressive Nu Metal?
Posted By: Tupan
Subject: Progressive Nu Metal?
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 5:57am
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I don't like Nu Metal. But I think that the Prog Metal can be mixed with every other metal genre. Actually exist something like Prog Nu Metal? |
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Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 6:40am
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Well, Earthone 9 were progressive nu metal weren't they ? ...and MAYBE One Minute Silence, I can't remember if they were or not. -------------  My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 6:49am
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well their is always Deftones who have some artsy and proggy moments whoalso is one of the original Nu Metal bands with Korn and Limp Bizkett. who seemd to be most experimental also check out Norwegian Audrey Horne who use mellotrons and stuff ------------- 
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 6:49am
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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 7:29am
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^Yes, Deftones is a little proggy, indeed! @ Kingcrimsonprog: Earhtone9 is not on MMA. Could you suggest them? Ah, they have a free comp too! See: http://www.earthtone9.co.uk/free.php" rel="nofollow - http://www.earthtone9.co.uk/free.php |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 11:56am
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Insofar as System of a Down are a nu metal band at all, I think that some of the tracks on "Toxicity" are kinda progressive.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 12:09pm
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Coheed and Cambria. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3135" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3135 http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/coheed-and-cambria.aspx?ac=coh" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/coheed-and-cambria.aspx?ac=coh |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 12:43pm
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Coheed are definatley proggy but I can't hear any Nu Metal in them, more of a pop-punk/emo basis to my ears.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 1:56pm
I lump alt. metal and Nu-metal in the same category.
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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 3:16pm
Not only Toxicity, but pratically their entire discog is very proggy. |
Time Signature wrote:Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2011 at 6:30pm
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I honestly don't think it can here's why. Nu Metal is pretty specific. How far can you push it? It's like melodic death metal...after so far, it's not really even close to death metal and is just "prog" metal. Also SoaD was never nu metal  can someone please tell me why the title was applied, and still sticks???? the heavy, simple riffing? OK sure, but song structure wise, they were pretty out there. Alt/prog metal. ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2011 at 6:54am
I imagine its just because of when their debut came out, the production sound on it and who they toured with at the time. If that was the only info you had to go on, it'd be easy to lump them in as Nu Meta, especially if you were a lazy journalist and didn't listen closely enoughl. ------------- My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 6:16am
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Slipknots debute album from 1996 is progy according to a Angry Scotsman and i must agree, they also have a progy live show, one of the best live bands i have seen imo -------------
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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2011 at 7:16am
| ^Yes, Angry Scotsman is right. The first album of Slipknot is very experimental, with some Primus like songs and odd song structures. Too bad they became a nu metal band... |
Posted By: IMPF
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 11:45am
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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2012 at 4:06pm
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Maximum the Hormone has a pretty, if not progressive, then at least different approach to Nu Metal.
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Posted By: Doomster
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2012 at 2:00am
One of the few nu metal albums that I can promptly say does not suck ass. |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 11:41am
Judging by the samples here on MMA, Maximum the Hormone seems to be a good band: ../maximum-the-hormone.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/maximum-the-hormone.aspx With a progressive edge, btw. |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 3:56pm
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They're definitely among my favorite bands.
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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2012 at 8:43pm
| ^They are very ecletic. Why don't move them to avant-garde? |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2012 at 4:58pm
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I definitely think that some of their tracks have an avant-garde touch to them.
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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 6:06pm
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norwegain act D�dsverk is probably the most progressive "nu-metal" sounding band in existence, they make Deftones seem bland and Korn seem like well normal
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Posted By: dreadpirateroberts
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2012 at 9:19pm
I second earthtone9 (who are added now  ) as some of their albums could be a progressive / nu metal mix.Probably Arc-Tan-Gent or its follow up ------------- We are men of action. Lies do not become us. |
Posted By: AtlasVersus
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 12:56pm
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Hey to all you Prog Metal fans! We just got our EP finished and are proud to share it with the world! Come have a listen and feel free to give your opinion on it! http://atlasvs.bandcamp.com/
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Posted By: alice-in-chains4lyfe
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 4:01pm
| Mudvayne and Deftones perhaps, but i always saw them more as alternative metal bands in the vein of Tool, as opposed to nu metal |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 19 Nov 2012 at 6:54am
| ^Well, Tool is prog metal... |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 4:01pm
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Mudvayne for sure; nothing fits the bill better than their first two albums. Go back and listen to LD.50 and TEOATTC nowadays, look at the song and album structures, the concepts, their presentation live and all that. They're closer to the spirit of prog than the spirit of nu metal. ------------- My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 6:20pm
| ^And the new albums? |
Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 24 Nov 2012 at 6:38am
Not as obviously. ------------- My Blog: http://kingcrimsonprog.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2013 at 3:42am
they are actually a progressive nu metal band, you hit it right on the head  |
Posted By: alice-in-chains4lyfe
Date Posted: 18 May 2013 at 8:30am
Their 2009 self titled album was slightly prog-ish with some L.D. 50 esque interludes and time sigs, definitely more progressive than "The New Game" and "Lost and Found" which are what i would label as pop metal.
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Posted By: eastbayriffs
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2013 at 1:24pm
| Disturbed has a lot of progressive stuff, particularly on the album "Believe". They graduated from Nu Metal a bit early though and became more of an Alternative Metal band. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2013 at 3:16pm
Isn´t the line a bit blurry there? Alternative metal to me is more of an umbrella genre that includes among other Things NU metal. On topic I can´t say I ever heard anything that I considered progressive about Disturbed. As far as I know most of their songs are pretty much regular vers/chorus structured and not very adventurous when it comes to incorporating other types of sections. I might be wrong though, I´m not exactly an Expert on the topic  ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: eastbayriffs
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2013 at 3:27pm
| I can't deny the grey areas of "Alternative" but I would suggest giving another listen to "Believe". The song structures may have been somewhat standard, but the grooves are complex and play around with some interesting time signatures. If they had gone further in that direction, I think people would have started calling them "Progressive". |
Posted By: Primeval Scum
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2014 at 11:43pm
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There's a band from Arizona called Sicmonic that mixes nu metal with progressive metal. I think they're quite good, actually, and deserve more recognition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A__RIclLAQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB-atMbUlBQ ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Harmonia-Mundi https://rateyourmusic.com/~cosmic_ocean |
Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 8:45am
Are you talking about this band: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicmonic" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicmonic |
Posted By: Primeval Scum
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 1:17pm
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Yes, that's them. They're not traditional nu metal, but they do have a strong nu metal element to their sound in many songs. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Harmonia-Mundi https://rateyourmusic.com/~cosmic_ocean |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 3:58pm
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A couple of years ago I had some correspondence with one of the Guys from the band. I think it was the bassist and we ended up adding them to Prog Archives ( http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5342" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=5342 ) and I wrote a review for their second album. A pretty good album as far as I remember (and from what I can read from my review). I haven´t listened to the album since though. Might be time to dust it of and give it a listen Again. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |