Poll: Best artist from the Netherlands
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Topic: Poll: Best artist from the Netherlands
Posted By: cold103
Subject: Poll: Best artist from the Netherlands
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 7:31pm
Ayreon gets my vote.  I very much like The Gathering's album "How to Measure a Planet?" though. On another note, it's interesting to me how the country of China has a population of 1.34 billion people, yet I'm not familiar with any Chinese artists (non-metal artists included); and how the country of the Netherlands only has 0.02 billion, yet I'm familiar with all of the Dutch artists in this poll and more (Autumn, Dial, Stream of Passion). Considering China's very large population, it seems like there would be a large number of artists in the country. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/group/progressivemetalfans - "Progressive-Metal Fans" Youtube group |
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Posted By: Metalbaswee
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 5:41am
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Epica for me!
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 6:29am
Focus 
I'm only really familiar with the Gathering out of these, very rarely I put their albums on. ------------- http://iamthreepeople.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow">  <- Click on this!
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Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 11:02am
| The Gathering for me, though they were really only metal for the first 4-5 albums. Epica a very close second and then After Forever behind them. Not really a WT fan and I hate Ayreon. |
Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 5:21pm
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Ayreon, awesome band. Arjen A. Lucassen is a mastermind ------------- www.last.fm/user/angelmk 
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Posted By: NJCat_11
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 5:24pm
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angelmk wrote:Posted By: Sinkadotentree
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 11:41pm
| From the list The Gathering. I also like NovAct and Suncaged who aren't listed. |
Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 3:38am
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All held equally for me:
Cirrha Niva - Awesome debut last year
Day Six - new album due mid-year and can't wait
Sun Caged - Seconding John, also have an album to look forward to this year.
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Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 7:17am
How so? He hasnt changed his sound since Into the Electric Castle, and thats just streight prog metal in the vein of DT that they perfected several years before he came along. |
Posted By: dean
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 1:01pm
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from the list: theGathering.
Other: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/helloise.aspx - Hello�se !
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 1:08pm
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Ayreon for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 11:04pm
| The Gathering. Don't care pretty much for the others. |
Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2010 at 12:23am
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Not a big fan of most of that list. The Gathering is okay but the rest I really don't like at all. I guess I'll pick other. Give me Netherlands death metal in the form of Gorefest thanks |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2010 at 4:17pm
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Where are Pestilence ? |
Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2010 at 8:28pm
Truth. Their absence from the poll hurts. Epically good band |
Posted By: Jake Kobrin
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2010 at 10:20pm
| The Gathering out of here. I honestly couldn't think of another band... |
Posted By: kshskang
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2010 at 4:44pm
| What are people's opinions on Textures? I haven't actually heard any of their music yet but i would like to know what MMA thinks about them as their descriptions seem appealing to me. Should I go check them out? |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 4:59pm
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Out of the ones listed, I went with The Gathering because of "Mandylion", which I've always liked. I was also tempted to go with "others", thinking Pestilence.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2010 at 6:48pm
 , as well. Focus or Finch....
Actually I've heard bits of most of these and apart from Ayreon which bores me to death.... the others leave completely cold ------------- my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....  |
Posted By: Napoleon
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 2:59pm
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Ayreon gets my vote, but certainly Within Temptation and Cirrha Nivaget honorable mentions.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2010 at 3:07pm
| Other for me - the stunning Exivious. Their debut album was one my personal Top 10 releases for 2009. |
Posted By: bsms810
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 9:00am
| Close, gotta go for Ayreon for human equation |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 9:30am
| From the list, I go with Epica ! |
Posted By: mosefus
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 2:31pm
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God Dethroned for me, hands down. Aggressive and tuneful. Quality death / thrash from the Low Country. ------------- http://www.smellthecult.com http://www.smellthecult.blogspot.com Keep it metal and ye shall be wise |
Posted By: slow man
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 5:41am
| Other, it's a choice between Picture,Vengeance and Pestilence. It's gonna be Picture for their classic Diamond dreamer album. |
Posted By: slow man
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 5:47am
| excuse me,something went wrong. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 10:13am
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Ayreon is, hands down, the best band listed here. However, there are some absences that are also awesome (mainly in the metal-fusion): Exivious and Pestilence. -------------   
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 10:18am
Exivious rule !
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 10:21am
They really do. -------------
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 4:01pm
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 4:22pm
| I'm gonna agree with the above and vote Other - Pestilence. Spheres wipes the floor with any album by any of these artists in my opinion. |
Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 5:54pm
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This is not a prog website and the thread starter specifically asked for metal Dutch bands... Please refrain of posting videos of non-metal bands or this thread will go to General Discussion. But that wasn't the OP's original idea, so out of respect for him, I'll delete any more non-metal videos here.
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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2010 at 6:44pm
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Textures for me.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2010 at 2:25pm
| I was torn between Ayreon and The Gathering.........Ayreon. |
Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2010 at 3:58am
Damn! Too hard to Vote! But from the "List", in order: 1. Ayreon -Arjen and all his side Bands are excellent, he has alot of talent and he seems like a great guy, if anyone has seen any of the "Making of..." Vids of his Bands, you'll see not one bad experience from the wide variety of Performers, Singers, Musicians. If I were in a Band, I'd be more than glad to record with him. 2. The Gathering -I became a LATE Fan. My first album was "How to Measure a Planet", and I was okay with them at the time but, I then got a Promo of "If_then_else" and it sat on my shelf for 3 years! Then a local AOR Radio (KLOS) DJ had a show called "Headsets", basically music to put headphones to (full of sound FX and music entertwined) and he played 2 Tracks from that Gathering album, and was blown away, I then would listen to that album almost everyday. I went backwards in their catalogue and been a fan since. I have not heard the newest album without "Anneke". I have to say the next ones I have been getting into for the past 2 Years. Years ago I couldnt get into the "Operetic/Dark-Wave Metal" but it has grown on me because the Singers (Male and Female) are fantasically trained and the music is a wide variety of Metal, Prog and Neo-Classical. 3. After Forever -I love Jensens voice, she can be Rough, Strong, and Operetic, and the music varies from, Aggressive Metal, Neo-Classical and Gothic. And like the other "Femme" vocalists, damn gorgeous! 4. Epica -Really just getting into them and I like everything I'm hearing. Simone has a wonderful voice and that Redhair kills me, lots of "Cookie Vocals" from Simones Husband and Lead Guitarist too! 5. Within Temptation -Just getting into them as well but I notice I like their later stuff, heavier and matured. Sharon Den Adel has a voice like glass, and her look . . . wow. But heres where I lean, Other: 1. Lemur Voice -only 2 albums in the 90's and they kick ass!, Netherlands answer to Dream Theater. Tight, complex, melodic, esoteric Lyrics, a unique and powerful voice of Vocalist Gregoor Van Der Loo musicianship of the highest order. Marcel Coenen-Guitarist extraordinaire would years later form... 2. Suncaged -The heavier version of Lemur, different line-up but every musician solid, my favorite album is their official 1st release with Andre Vuurboom on vocals and Joost Van Der Broke on Keyboards, (Joost, also infamous with Arjen on 2 Aryeon albums). Andres vocals are really incredible. Next albums are really good as well. But Andre and Joost then sadly leave (after debut) and form... 3. Sphere of Souls -Really great Prog Metal in the same vien, only not as good production quality, but I am looking forward to a 2nd album (Hurray up guys!). 4. Pestilence -Early Nederland Death Metal!!! Was a huge fan of their "Conuming Impulse" and "Mallues Maleficarum" albums. Now I'm a Tech-Thrash/Math/Death Metal fan, but I really did not like "Spheres" and "Testimony of the Ancients", because they toned down the Guitars and the Keyboard sound they use totally annoy me (Believe me, these ears usually get used to stuff like that but man...). I am looking forward in getting a copy of their latest .5. Bodine -Early NWoNHM? Really good Heavy Metal Band that featured Arjen Luccasen on Lead Guitar, its funny after a few years having their albums (LP's) and then decades later having my 1st copies of Ayreons 3rd and 4th albums, I wondered "I've seen Arjen somewhere before"  Heres a STAGGERING list of Metal from the Netherlands: http://www.metal-archives.com/browseC.php?c=151 - http://www.metal-archives.com/browseC.php?c=151 And to cold103, definatly watch this (Your question of "Chinese Metal"): "Long haired Warriors!" (Sorry guys, this is the only FULL vid on this section of the Film, The Spanish subtitles get in the way of the Chinese translations unfortunately - for those who dont speak it anyway). Go here for next part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmZmHCRgDNs&NR=1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmZmHCRgDNs&NR=1 And check this out . . . (See lists of Chinese Metal from there and above Vid).
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Posted By: Phonebook Eater
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 12:34am
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Ayreon, no doubt
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Posted By: Bartje1979
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2010 at 1:59pm
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Ayreon |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 3:15am
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Other:
Pestilence and then Gorefest. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 01 May 2010 at 6:20am
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The Gathering! |
Posted By: deathlifereborn
Date Posted: 13 May 2010 at 8:13am
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Posted By: birdwithteeth11
Date Posted: 18 May 2010 at 2:52pm
Voted "Other" since Pestilence wasn't mentioned on there. Glad someone brought them up.
Last.fm has been recommending them to me for a few months now. I should probably check them out eventually. -------------  
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Posted By: Vobiscum
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2012 at 7:26am
| Certainly "The Gathering" which created a trend from "Mandilyon." The other bands mentioned, I know of, "After Forever" is also very good, although it has released only five studio albums. "Epica" and "WT" lost a little, "Ayreon" never heard. |
Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2012 at 8:04am
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Other: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/anomaly.aspx?ac=Anomaly" rel="nofollow - Anomaly Other: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/lemur-voice.aspx?ac=Lem" rel="nofollow - Lemur Voice Other: http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/sun-caged.aspx?ac=sun%20c" rel="nofollow - Sun Caged Other: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=63" rel="nofollow - Cliffhanger |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2012 at 9:31am
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Ayreon for me. Pestilence would probably be a close second, but Spheres is their only true masterpiece IMO.
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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2012 at 10:04pm
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Phlebotomized for the win |
Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 1:08am
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I only like The Gathering and Ayreon out of these artists Voted for The Gathering. |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 1:25am
| Other - Pestilence, but that's probably not a big surprise. |
Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 6:37am
| The Gathering overall despite a few patchy albums but the same could apply to Ayreon who would be my 2nd choice. |
Posted By: Vic
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 9:37am
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Pestilence for me but up to Testimony of the Ancients. Not trying to be antagonistic or anything but Spheres is the moment they lost me. Two good songs (Mind Reflections and Spheres) and the rest are an amateur's attempt to fuse death metal and jazz/fusion without really having the skills to do so. Great drumming though. It's then Ayreon, Asphyx and then The Gathering. ------------- 42 |
Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2015 at 12:04pm
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Epica is the only one I like out of these. ------------- If I say fuck two more times that's forty-six fucks in this fucked up rhyme |
Posted By: Jbird
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2015 at 8:14am
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Within Temptation for me. Yeah, I know they aren't really all that heavy, but I really like them for whatever reason. 'Enter' sounds like a demo, maybe a decent-sounding, Goth-y demo. I don't like 'Mother Earth' (which seems to be the fan favorite, go figure). 'The Silent Force' is very good though it should have been heavier, with the guitars more in the forefront. 'The Heart Of Everything' is a great album, 'The Unforgiving' is maybe my album of the year for 2011, and 'Hydra' is maybe my album of the year for 2014. I've seen them 3 times in concert, and they've put on killer shows all 3 times. Netherlands bands I have albums from: After Forever (all their albums) Ayreon (3 albums) Delain (all albums) Epica (all albums) The Gathering (2 albums, nice voice, meh music) Kingfisher Sky (1 album, nice voice, meh music) Lemur Voice (debut album, great band) Nemesea (3 albums, all very different) Revamp (Floor Jansen's band) Stream Of Passion (all albums) Sun Caged (2 albums, pretty good shreddy prog-metal) Vandenberg (2 albums on vinyl, remember those guys?) Within Temptation (all albums/dvds) As you can see, most of it is female-fronted symphonic metal. No extreme/death/black metal, genres I'm just not into unless the band is pretty progressive as well.
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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 12:05am
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I just thought of one I've got on my computer: George Baker! I ripped a couple of CDs for my missus and they ended up in my playlist.
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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 6:17am
is that the guy that sings Una Paloma Blanca? |
Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 11:03am
That's the one. Also Little Green Bag, which was used here in a Heineken ad.
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Posted By: Alex
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 11:07am
| Ayreon! |