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Topic: Making new MMA List Challenges
Posted By: adg211288
Subject: Making new MMA List Challenges
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 10:54am
I'd like to get the MMA community involved in a series of List Challenges that actually bear the MMA name again. To that end I'd like to try a little experiment in community list making. 

While I'm open to suggestions on topics, an idea for a series I'm working with is '10 Albums Every Headbanger Should Hear'.

Each one based on a different genre. 

Starting basic, the first genre I'm going to nominate is Technical Death Metal. 

Here's how I see this working: Anyone who replies to this thread nominates two albums to include. The first album is their primary choice, which will always be included if they are one of the first nine to post (the first will always be picked by whoever picks the next theme). A second album is there in the event that we don't give enough people comment (again, this is absolutely an experiment), again first to post get included. 

There is no need to re-post any album that someone above you already put as their first pick. You can mention someone's second pick to ensure it's inclusion. Try to also make it 10 different bands as well. 

So for Technical Death Metal my picks are:

First Pick: Augury - Concealed
Second Pick: Death - Symbolic


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 11:22am
Atheist - Piece of Time
Disharmonic Orchestra - Not to be Undimensional Conscious


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 2:18pm
Three very good releases there that would be on my list. I can't speak to Disharmonic Orchestra unfortunately, but I don't doubt it's good. I'll add it to me list of listens Wink

For my two selections, I'll go with Obscura by Gorguts (which just pips Colored Sands for me) followed by Nile and Annihilation Of The Wicked.



Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 2:28pm
I'm going to grab Adam's second for my number one because there's no way Symbolic doesn't deserve a place.

I'll give my second pick to Obscura - Omnivium.


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 3:04pm
Okay, trying to pick bands not already here...

1. Pestilence - Testimony of the Ancients
2. Decapitated - Organic Hallucinosis


Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 5:23pm
I usually like my death metal a bit less fiddly, but here's a couple of suggestions:

1. Nocturnus - The Key

2. Decapitated - Nihility


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2021 at 10:41pm
I'll follow suit and only mention a couple that haven't been mentioned so far.

BTW great choices above!



I'm really loving this 2021 release

Ad Nauseam - Imperative Imperceptible Impulse

Death - The Sound Of Perseverance


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2021 at 2:06am
Some good picks here everyone. Three more required and maybe I'll extend this to 20 to get everyone's second in as well. I said 10 to start with so as not to be too ambitious. 

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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 4:17am
Nile - Those Whom the Gods Detest

Allegaeon - Proponent for Sentience


Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 5:03am
Some outstanding albums above and a few I'm not familiar with which shall be rectified this coming week.  I shall go with...

Gorguts - Colored Sands (I'm the opposite as Chris, this just pips Obscura for me but I think each deserve to be here).

Baring Teeth - Ghost Chours Among Old Ruins


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 2:11pm
I have three slots left for a 20 album list.

I'd like to keep it a maximum two per artist so the following bands won't be accepted at this point: Nile, Gorguts, Decapitated & Death. 


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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 3:15pm
If no new entries come in I can always come up with some more if you like.


Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2021 at 6:12pm
In that case, Unquestionable Presence by Atheist.


Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 1:12am
I'll throw in Ulcerate - Stare Into Death and be Still


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 5:35am
One more and then I'll publish.

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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 10:39am
Pestilence - Spheres


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 10:43am
That's a good pick. Okay, going live momentarily. 

I don't have a genre in mind for the next one, so open to suggestions.


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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 3:09pm
I'm going to go out of character here and suggest something for the next one that isn't especially my thing, but would show our diversity as a site:

Alternative Metal. 


Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 3:20pm
Excellent idea Nicole.

If we are going for that, I would suggest:

System of a Down - Mesmerise

Therapy? - Troublegum

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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 3:30pm
Now we're talking, and I'll give nu metal as my suggestion.

for alt metal:
Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger
Chevelle - The North Corridor

EDIT: If sub-genres are included, switch Chevelle with Korn - Issues


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 3:57pm
Alice in Chains - Black Gives Way to Blue
Breed 77 - In My Blood


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 4:48pm
Mr Bungle - Mr Bungle
Babymetal - Babymetal


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2021 at 10:05pm
subgenres are included, yes?

Primus - Sailing the Seas of Cheese
Devin Townsend - Addicted


Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 12:31am
My favourite bands are taken CryWink
I'll offer:

Faith No More - Angel Dust
Deftones - White Pony

Or if you want less obvious:

Dir En Grey - Uroboros
Rollins Band - The End Of Silence



Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 1:36am
I'll include up to two releases per artist again.

Have 12 so far, plus a few extra nominations that can be used to make up the number if needed. 

Sub-genres are fine, though lets not rule out doing any sub-genre specific ones at some point. 


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 3:47am
^ trancecore or trance metal will be a struggle to get to 20 WinkLOL


Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 5:11am
I don't need to see a trance metal list to know I'll get 0.

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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 5:30am
Lets double up the AiC and include Dirt as my first pick.

Second pick: Katatonia - The Fall of Hearts.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 6:11am
Six more required, or I can fill a few slots with the extra ones mentioned. 

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Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 6:27am
I would also nominate:

Helmet - Meantime


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 7:39am
I suppose SOAD Toxicity should be there?

Did we say we were including child subs or saving those for future lists? I vote the latter but am relaxed either way.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 7:43am
I think we've got some nu and funk already included in this, and even one album we actually have tagged as Avant. Doesn't mean we wouldn't do lists for them as well, although I for one would be about as useful as a chocolate fireguard in regard to picking albums for nu, funk or rap metal. 

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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 7:46am
Okay, S.C.I.E.N.C.E. by Incubus if you get no more suggestions? Still a few people who could chip in.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 8:11am
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Six more required, or I can fill a few slots with the extra ones mentioned. 

A 2nd Primus album would be good Cool  I would propose Antipop 


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2021 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Now we're talking, and I'll give nu metal as my suggestion.

for alt metal:
Soundgarden - Badmotorfinger
Chevelle - The North Corridor

EDIT: If sub-genres are included, switch Chevelle with Korn - Issues


If you got all these three, I'll add Soundgarden - Louder Than Love and Powerman 5000 - Mega!! Kung Fu Radio


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 1:29am
I've got 20 now and will be posting it soon. Keep the last albums mentioned in mind for a second round after we've been through a few other genres.

Perhaps let's go classic this time: Heavy Metal. But let's try to make it interesting and avoid the major acts that we'll fight over which two albums should be included: so no Maiden, Priest, Sabbath, etc. And for the sake of how much it crosses over we'll also say that most things tagged as USPM here will also be allowed. 

I put forward:

A Sound of Thunder - The Lesser Key of Solomon
Dark Forest - Dawn of Infinity


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:19am
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

But let's try to make it interesting and avoid the major acts that we'll fight over which two albums should be included: so no Maiden, Priest, Sabbath, etc.

Is Motorhead allowed?  guessing no

Quote And for the sake of how much it crosses over we'll also say that most things tagged as USPM here will also be allowed.


Is Iced Earth allowed? guessing yes


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 8:26am
I'm actually having a lot of trouble picking only 2 LOL - narrowed it down to 5 or 6 and I'm going to wait to see if somebody else posts any of them first


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 10:52am
Helstar - Burning Star
Buffalo - Volcanic Rock


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 11:47am
For my money Iced Earth is a major band. Maybe not Maiden or Priest big leagues (which would indeed include Motorhead), but close. I also think they're mostly too far into the actual power metal side to completely fit with what I had in mind for this, but I expect we'll do USPM on its own at some point as well, for which they'd be eligible for. 

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:15pm
Sounds good, I'll go with:

Pantera - Power Metal
Voivod - Voivod

...and hope that somebody else lists Slave to the Grind Wink


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:18pm
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Sounds good, I'll go with:

Pantera - Power Metal

...and hope that somebody else lists Slave to the Grind Wink


I was at first going to pick Power Metal, but since some USPM was okay I had to pick Burning Star, but I'm glad you picked it! Thumbs Up

and yeah, hopefully someone picks Slave to the Grind and Symbol of Salvation.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:20pm
Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Sounds good, I'll go with:

Pantera - Power Metal

...and hope that somebody else lists Slave to the Grind Wink


I was at first going to pick Power Metal, but since some USPM was okay I had to pick Burning Star, but I'm glad you picked it! Thumbs Up

and yeah, hopefully someone picks Slave to the Grind and Symbol of Salvation.

Anselmo's vocals on that album are astounding, I love it so much


Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:27pm
NWOBHM?

Saxon - Power and the Glory
Manowar - Fighting The World


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:34pm
^Two more fantastic picks!

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Sounds good, I'll go with:

Pantera - Power Metal

...and hope that somebody else lists Slave to the Grind Wink


I was at first going to pick Power Metal, but since some USPM was okay I had to pick Burning Star, but I'm glad you picked it! Thumbs Up

and yeah, hopefully someone picks Slave to the Grind and Symbol of Salvation.

Anselmo's vocals on that album are astounding, I love it so much


Yeah, he basically out-Halford's Halford, such an underrated album. Have you heard The Will to Survive from the Cowboys demos? It's basically a bridge between the two albums and his vocals are incredible.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 14 Apr 2021 at 12:42pm
No I haven't, I'll see if it's on youtube


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 9:37am
I unironically almost picked Cold Lake btw


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 12:16pm
I'm not sure the whole 'not by major bands' thing is working out here. To my thinking the last four acts mentioned are all pretty major even if two of them are for their work in another genre. 

Lets revert to anything goes. 

If need be we'll do more than 20 albums in the list. Still maximum two albums per artist though, maybe three for the really major acts. Actually I think the fairest way to do the major acts is if everyone who wants a say picks up to three albums for each of them as well as their two normal picks and it'll be the most mentioned albums that get in. Ties get decided by MMA score. 

For my money:

Iron Maiden: Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, Powerslave & Brave New World.

Black Sabbath: Black Sabbath, Paranoid & Heaven and Hell.

Judas Priest: Painkiller (it's in Power here, but it's obviously still okay to include), Sad Wings of Destiny & Stained Class.

I've no opinion on Motorhead or any other band. I honestly don't know how major you'd want to call Saxon and Manowar.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 2:05pm
For my money, an album that nobody listens to from a major band fits the mood.  But if you want to do that, my major band submission is Motorhead - Orgasmatron see new post below

edit: if your intention is strictly obscure bands just say so - there's a world of difference in # of listeners between Iron Maiden and Saxon


Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 2:20pm
^ love that album 👍😁


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Actually I think the fairest way to do the major acts is if everyone who wants a say picks up to three albums for each of them as well as their two normal picks and it'll be the most mentioned albums that get in.

oOPS missed this

Maiden: Iron Maiden, Killers, Powerslave
Priest: Sad Wings of Destiny, Screaming for Vengeance, Painkiller
Sabbath: Black Sabbath, Vol 4, Sabotage
Motorhead: Overkill, Iron Fist, Orgasmatron

and keeping Pantera - Power Metal and Voivod - Voivod for my other 2



Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 2:51pm
Hell - Human Remains
Rainbow - Rising

Iron Maiden: Seventh Son, Powerslave, Dance of Death
Black Sabbath: Paranoid, Heaven & Hell, Black Sabbath
Judas Priest: Painkiller, Sad Wings of Destiny, Killing Machine

I've got precious little Motorhead stuff, but I'll give a nod to Ace of Spades and Overkill. 



Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 4:03pm
Iron Maiden - Seventh Son, Powerslave, Iron Maiden

Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath, Master of Reality, Paranoid

Armored Saint - Win Hands Down

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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Helstar - Burning Star
Buffalo - Volcanic Rock


Keeping these as my two, but for major bands:

Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance, Point of Entry, Sin After Sin
Black Sabbath -  Born Again, Master of Reality, Sabotage
Iron Maiden - Somewhere in Time, Killers, Powerslave
Motorhead - Sacrifice, Ace of Spades, Orgasmatron


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 5:11pm
Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Motorhead - Sacrifice

this album also rules, reminds me of Testament's Low


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2021 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Motorhead - Sacrifice

this album also rules, reminds me of Testament's Low


Definitely shows a similar evolution in sound, both albums were probably the bands at their heaviest. Both have also always been my favorites from each as well. War for War especially is probably my favorite Motorhead song.


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 1:35am
I've currently got down the following 11 (Mark only listed 1) albums. The current plan is to get it 20 and then add the major bands. Lets say those are just the four being voted on and anyone else is fair game to select as part of your 2.

A Sound of Thunder - The Lesser Key of Solomon
Dark Forest - Dawn of Infinity
Helstar - Burning Star
Buffalo - Volcanic Rock
Pantera - Power Metal
Voivod - Voivod
Saxon - Power and The Glory
Manowar - Fighting the World
Hell - Human Remains
Rainbow - Rising
Armored Saint - Win Hands Down


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 1:52am
We don't have Skid Row Slave To The Grind?

How about a bit more NWoBHM?
Diamond Head - Lightning To The Nations?
Angel Witch - Angel Witch?

I'm showing my age LOL


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 2:38am
No, but you're at least the third person to mention it along with two others. I'll include it. 

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 8:24am
Thumbs Up


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 10:19am
If more suggestions are needed, any of these would be great:

Armored Saint - Symbol of Salvation
Scorpions - Taken by Force
Riot - Fire Down Under
Budgie - Budgie


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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2021 at 10:39am
1. Hell - Curse & Chapter
2. Grand Magus - Hammer Of The North

Majors...

Iron Maiden - Powerslave, Piece Of Mind, Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
Judas Priest - Screaming for Vengeance, Painkiller, British Steel
Black Sabbath - Paranoid, Vol 4, Black Sabbath
Motorhead - Overkill, Inferno, Ace of Spades


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2021 at 11:02am
I'll give this until tomorrow for anyone else to have a say, then pick some of the extra albums mentioned up and see what gets in for the big acts. 

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Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2021 at 5:29am
I presume Bruce Dickinson on his own can just be chosen.

1. Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding
2. Accept - Restless and Wild

Iron Maiden: Powerslave, Somewhere in Time and Seventh Son.
Judas Priest: Painkiller, Stained Class and Killing Machine
Black sabbath: Black Sabbath, Paranoid and Heaven and Hell.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 2:03am
Okay everyone, I have a list of 30 albums for heavy metal almost ready to go. This are three from the four big bands and 18 other albums. I have a few more suggestions from Khaliq and some strong ideas of my own to bring the number up even further, so I'm aiming to hit at least 40 albums before the list goes live. Voting on the big 4 bands is closed now, but suggestions for other albums will still be taken.

I am adding the following further albums:

MorningStarlett - MorningStarlett
Flower Travellin' Band - Satori

I also think we should have a second Saxon. Not knowing the band personally, I've pre-selected the highest rated one from MMA, Wheels of Steel, to be included. People can make a different case if they wish. 


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 2:51am
Wheels Of Steel is a good album Thumbs Up


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 8:40am
Savatage - Hall of the Mountain King
Racer X - Street Lethal


Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 2:11pm
Some possibilities to consider:

King Diamond - Abigail
Dio - Holy Diver
Legend - Death in the Nursery
Raven - All For One
Satan - Court in the Act
Chastain - The Voice of The Cult
Crimson Glory - Transcendence 
Metal Church - Metal Church


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

I also think we should have a second Saxon. Not knowing the band personally, I've pre-selected the highest rated one from MMA, Wheels of Steel, to be included. People can make a different case if they wish. 


Wheels of Steel is great, but I'd pick Strong Arm of the Law or Rock the Nations as a second album personally.

and I second Hall of the Mountain King

Too many more suggestions:

Blue Cheer - What Doesn't Kill You... (I would pick Outsideinside, but as it isn't under heavy metal here, here's this album. Can't not have an album from the first metal band)
Danzig - Danzig
Anvil - Plenty of Power
Def Leppard - High and Dry
Krokus - Headhunter
Loudness - Disillusion
Metallica - Load
Queensryche - Rage for Order (I consider this USPM, but it's heavy metal here)
W.A.S.P. - The Headless Children
Warlock - Triumph and Agony
Girlschool - Hit and Run
Megadeth - Youthanasia
Manilla Road - The Courts of Chaos
Sword - Metalized
Quiet Riot - Down to the Bone
Dokken - Tooth and Nail
Rock Goddess - Rock Goddess

Damn, this is telling me that classic heavy metal might be my favorite metal genre after nu and sludge/stoner/grunge lol

EDIT: BTW when we get to thrash we should probably do similar, big 4 picks separate from the main picks.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2021 at 8:47pm
Danzig s.t. is a good one, I didn't know it was tagged heavy metal


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 3:10am
If I include all of those (including bringing Saxon up to three albums), we hit 64. I don't feel comfortable including Load though.

At this point I can either trim this down to 50 or we go all out and get it to 100.

I'm not sure what the final list is but three Saxon seems excessive out of 50. As for Load, I know it has its fans but it really isn't the best HM album that Metallica made.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 3:18am
I've added the following alums which brings this to 70:

Huntress - Spell Eater
Rebellion - Born a Rebel
Budgie - Never Turn Your Back On A Friend
Eternal Champion - The Armor of Ire
Night Viper - Exterminator
Torch - Torch


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 4:37pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

IAs for Load, I know it has its fans but it really isn't the best HM album that Metallica made.


But it is. Tongue

I'd argue that it's mandatory listening because of its reputation along with being an excellent album imo. All the more reason for people to listen to it themselves to form their own opinion instead of just going with what everybody says and not giving it a fair shot. That happens way too often with albums with bad reputations.

EDIT: but I completely understand not including it lol, it's not a big deal


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 4:56pm
Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

IAs for Load, I know it has its fans but it really isn't the best HM album that Metallica made.


But it is. Tongue

I'd argue that it's mandatory listening because of its reputation along with being an excellent album imo. All the more reason for people to listen to it themselves to form their own opinion instead of just going with what everybody says and not giving it a fair shot. That happens way too often with albums with bad reputations.

Don't know where you pulled this from, but these aren't my words. Confused


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

IAs for Load, I know it has its fans but it really isn't the best HM album that Metallica made.


But it is. Tongue

I'd argue that it's mandatory listening because of its reputation along with being an excellent album imo. All the more reason for people to listen to it themselves to form their own opinion instead of just going with what everybody says and not giving it a fair shot. That happens way too often with albums with bad reputations.

Don't know where you pulled this from, but these aren't my words. Confused


I wasn't saying you were saying people shouldn't listen to it, it was just a comment about my reasoning for choosing it, but I understand not wanting to include it. Unless I'm misunderstanding something?

EDIT: I just noticed your post says edited by Bosh, did he mean to post that but accidentally edited yours?


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 5:03pm
I mean I didn't write that quote you've got my name on: 

'IAs for Load, I know it has its fans but it really isn't the best HM album that Metallica made.'

^ Not my post. 


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 5:08pm
Yeah, nevermind, I just realized your post says edited by Bosh, I'm guessing he accidentally edited yours instead of posting, my bad.


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 5:20pm
That explains it. I was a bit confused when I saw your post. Like: 'Huh, when did I write that?' LOL

To be honest, I don't disagree with it. But whatever my personal thoughts on the album, my main issue is that it's an album with an average on here of just 2.67. Average rating hasn't been a factor in these lists and there are a few picks that have below 3.0, but they're not for such a major act or for an album with, let's say a bit of reputation. 

Given me an idea for a future list though: picking albums you feel are underrated. 


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 5:57pm
Like I said, makes sense why it shouldn't be included.

Maybe something specific like "Albums that generally get a bad rep that you should listen to" would make an interesting list. I'd be curious to see what everyone would pick.


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2021 at 11:31pm
I like the albums with a bad rep suggestion.

Guys apologies. I did inadvertently edit Adam’s post. I was obviously rushing and thought I’d hit quote. I should have been more careful.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2021 at 3:37am
Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

"Albums that generally get a bad rep that you should listen to" 

Let's do this one next. 

Any further trad suggestions or we can go for 70 long?


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2021 at 3:26pm
Okay, no more responses, so this one is now live.

Next subject, changing it up from genre lists as suggested earlier, is disliked albums that deserve a second chance / Albums that generally get a bad rep that you should listen to / whatever we end up calling it.

I don't have a total in mind for this one, so let's see how it goes. We need at least ten to post though. I feel this is more of a one pick per person thing.

I nominate Iron Maiden - Virtual XI.


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2021 at 4:51pm
Metallica and Lou Reed - Lulu


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2021 at 9:13pm
Celtic Frost - Cold Lake


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2021 at 11:02pm
Could go with so many albums, but I'll go with the album that made me think of this

Metallica - Load


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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2021 at 3:01am
1349 - Revelations of the Black Flame


Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2021 at 3:56am
I will suggest Permission to Land by The Darkness. It's rating here is 3.47 which is respectable but it generally gets a bad rap as being nothing more than a gimmick whereas I find it to be a flawless hard rock album which is great fun and played by skilled musicians. Perhaps a victim of it's time of release?

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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 25 Apr 2021 at 4:01am
^ I'm not sure on that one. Even RYM has that rated over 3.0 and they hate everything. 

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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2021 at 1:44pm
No one else? Come on team.

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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2021 at 1:48pm
I second Lulu. Also Born Again by Sabbath. I’ll keep thinking.


Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2021 at 2:17pm
Chinese Democracy by G’n’R? Always thought it was unfairly slated due tot the ridiculous hype and anticipation. Not the greatest album in the world but better than folk give it credit for IMO.


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2021 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

Also Born Again by Sabbath


Seconded

A few more:

Megadeth - Risk
Judas Priest - Point of Entry or Turbo
Razor - Custom Killing
Limp Bizkit - Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water

I would also say Pantera Power Metal, but that was already in the heavy metal list, and also I feel like that albums general reputation has gotten a lot better over the years with more people giving it a chance.


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Posted By: BitterJalapeno
Date Posted: 26 Apr 2021 at 3:29pm
I feel Slipknot's All Hope is Gone isn't as poor as it's suggested. Certainly far from their best but it's not a bad album.

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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2021 at 1:43am
This one seems to be not be as popular a topic as I'd expected, but I have ten albums lined up now.

I haven't taken every suggestion for this list, as there's been a couple mentioned where I don't see the evidence that the albums have as bad a rep as you seem to think: The Darkness and Razor albums both have managed to get over the 3.0 mark on RYM and as said before, those guys hate everything. Same for both Judas Priest albums mentioned, although I do hear people bash those on occasion. I've taken the liberty of putting Jugulator in instead. I mean, that Sabbath one passes the 3.0 barrier as well if that's really a consideration, but I do hear people dismiss that album more regularly so I'm more comfortable with including it. 

I didn't include Limp Bizkit, because basically their whole career would qualify. Tongue

I'll be posting it shortly, just making up a cover image for it.

Back to genres for the next subject and I think we'll do thrash metal next.

Same deal on the so called Big 4 as with heavy metal's major acts:

Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax and Slayer. Everyone votes for up to three albums each. Make sure they're actually tagged as thrash metal here though. 

Otherwise you get two picks each or more if we need to make up the number. 



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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2021 at 1:52am
Annihilator - Never, Neverland
Paradox - Tales of the Weird

Metallica: Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, Kill Em All
Megadeth: Rust in Peace, Peace Sells, Countdown to Extinction

I don't know Anthrax well but I'll throw a vote to Among the Living at least

No real opinion for Slayer but I guess Seasons in the Abyss is an OK album. 


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2021 at 2:01am
^ I'd agree with all them, bar Slayer on which I have no meaningful comment.

Anthrax is a dificult one. I'd say Spreading The Disease, but that may be because it was the first one I got. Some later albums too would be nice but to my ears they're good albums (Worship / For All Kings) rather than classics.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2021 at 5:20am
^ Don't forget to still give two other albums, Chris. 

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2021 at 8:34am
Metallica: Ride the Lighting, Master of Puppets, And Justice For All
Megadeth: Killing is my Business, So Far So Good So What, Rust in Peace
Slayer: Show No Mercy, Reign in Blood, South of Heaven
Anthrax: Fistful of Metal, Spreading the Disease, State of Euphoria

Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion
Stone - No Anaesthesia


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2021 at 9:27am
Overkill - The Years of Decay
Jurassic Jade - Gore

Metallica - Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, Kill 'em All
Megadeth - Peace Sells, But Who's Buying?, Killing is My Business, and Business is Good!, So Far, So Good, So What!
Anthrax - State of Euphoria, Persistence of Time, Among the Living
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss, South of Heaven, Hell Awaits


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2021 at 12:22pm
Metallica - ...And Justice For all, Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning
Megadeth - Killing Is my Business, Peace sells, So Far, So Good, So What
Slayer - Reign in Blood, South of Heaven, Seasons in the Abyss
Anthrax - Spreading the Disease, Among the Living, Persistence of Time

Kreator - Extreme Aggression
Exhorder - Slaughter in the Vatican



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