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Topic: MMA Collaborators Top Metal Releases of 2010
Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Subject: MMA Collaborators Top Metal Releases of 2010
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 8:29pm
METAL MUSIC ARCHIVES: METAL ALBUM OF THE YEAR 2010




Greetings all, and welcome to the first annual presentation of the collaborators album of the year. This list was chosen based upon all studio album and EP releases from metal artists in 2010. Given the small number of collabs this site has, naturally the list may not be as long and as in-depth as could be imagined in such a diverse and massive genre. Nonetheless, here are the releases chosen for the 2010 year.


1. MARROW OF THE SPIRIT, AGALLOCH






Following 2006's Ashes Against The Grain, Portland's dark metal masters have crafted an album full of bleak, grandiose soundscapes and epic haunting instrumental passages. Marrow Of The Spirit stands as a testament to the creative power and musical insight Agalloch are capable of creating.

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There's no denial that 'Marrow Of The Spirit' is a monster of a work; a thick and towering beast that takes quite a few listens to really sink in... While being so excited and eager to listen to an album can very abundantly lead to disappointment, 'Marrow Of The Spirit' comes only a shard away from reaching the perfection that 'The Mantle' achieved."
 - Conor Fynes (MMA Special Collab)


2. VICTIMS OF THE MODERN AGE, STAR ONE



Arjen Lucassen, the mastermind behind Ayreon has once again developed a winning formula with his latest space-metal spin-off.

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with Victims of the Modern Age, Arjen Lucassen has given the world an album to rival much of his Ayreon material. I expected a solid album when this was first announced, Arjen rarely disappoints with his albums, but I wasn�t expecting what Victims of the Modern Age turned out to be, which is, in a word: Masterpiece."
- adg211288 (MMA Special Collab)


3. AQUARIUS, HAKEN



London Prog Metal band Haken bursts into the fray with their debut album... an 80 minute epic that has spellbound many in the progressive metal sphere, combining musical virtuosity with melodic atmospherics - and everything else.

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Aquarius has left me speechless. I've been searching for an album from 2010 to confidently call a masterpiece, and this is definitely it. If you like progressive rock, progressive metal, or just about anything else, this is absolutely essential."
- J-Man (MMA Special Collab)


4th Equal: Jupiter, Atheist and Beacons, Cloudkicker




The fourth release from Atheist has proven to provide as much bite as their previous three highly regarded releases. Indeed, as somewhat of a comeback album after many years in the wilderness, Jupiter's thrash, technical and death metal qualities still sound as fresh and powerful as ever.

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Atheist have once again proven that they are one of the most unique forces on the metal scene. Pushing boundaries, defying conventions and kicking ass in the process."
- UMUR (MMA Special Collab)





Ben Sharp's second self recorded and released album, Beacons, has paved the way for even more varieties of independent releases in 'underground' metal genres. The album has been fit to the highest standards, having been cut from a genuinely chaotic and metallic cloth.

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The album is still full of headbanging and air-drumming spectaculars, with evenly paced levels of heaviness and head pounding rhythms. The music here is much more likely to please straight metal fans, as the sound is slightly more radio friendly than his previous releases - although this is not a bad thing."
- progkidjoel (MMA Special Collab)



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CAILLES DE LUNE, ALCEST




Mixing Black Metal with any other genre is sure to attract attention, and with Alcest's second release, that attention has been predominately of the good variety. Shoegaze, post-metal and black metal collide in this hauntingly beautiful and dark album.

"(Ecailles De Lune is) not frost-bitten or enraged, just sweet drifting on a shore next to a deep blue sea at night. From this perspective I could say that Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde is a summer morning while �cailles de lune is the beginning night of that same day."
-
Vehemency (MMA Special Collab)


7. AXIOMA ETHICA ODINI, ENSLAVED



Combining the harsh darkness of Norwegian Black Metal and the symphonic flourishes of bygone eras, Enslaved continue to forge a unique path amid the plethora of extreme metal acts that flood the periphery of the Black Metal scene.

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these tracks are dark and bleak as hell, the way black metal should be. "Axioma" is the odd man out, being an atmospheric synth piece (the odd man out, but still, it fits the atmosphere of the entire record)."
- Time Signature (MMA Special Collab and Admin)


8. THE FINAL FRONTIER, IRON MAIDEN




Classic heavy metal icons, Iron Maiden return in 2010 with their latest (and fifteenth) release - proving themselves once again to have a creative staying power that extends throughout the ages. Let us hope that this is not the final frontier.

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Some of the new things work and some don't, but in the big picture that's irrelevant. What's important is that Iron Maiden is still evolving and searching, it would be a pity is this was the end. Luckily by their recent comments it seems that there will be more."
- Pekka (MMA Special Collab)


9. ANTHROPOCENTRIC, THE OCEAN




If Berlin's The Ocean Collective can be seen to exist in the shadow of some of the more famous post-metal bands. Anthropocentric should be the album to change that - for it is as unique and challenging as metal gets. Fusing ambient, doom and a myriad of other influences, Anthropocentric is as epic and alluring as anything the band has done before.

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Anthropocentric is the perfect definition of a hit-and-miss album for me. There are some huge "hits" that border on masterpiece status, yet there is a decent portion of music here that just fails to capture me in any way. Not because it's bad - if you're a fan of The Ocean, you should love this entire album... the mellow post rock and progressive metal sections are very inspired and enjoyable, whereas the post-hardcore sections leave me cold. Although many will disagree with me, I wholeheartedly believe that The Ocean is much better when playing softer music."
- J-Man (MMA Special Collab)


Because of the low number of collaborators, these albums were tied for 10th place, and are highly recommended.

Periphery, Periphery

Immolation, Majesty and Decay

Unituli,  Circle Of Ouroborus

Sting in the Tail, Scorpions

Remember It, Frame Pictures

Relentless Retribution, Death Angel

Five Deadly Venoms, Shaolin Death Squad

Curse Of The Red River, Barren Earth


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 8:38pm
Great list! Clap I voted for some of these. Smile Thanks again for making this possible, Ben. Clap

2010 was a spectacular year for metal, especially in the death and prog spectrum. Headbanger


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 8:43pm
I thought this year was somewhat lacking in met, but I'll be sure to check out a few from the list.

Also, where the hell is Valley of Smoke? Unhappy


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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 8:43pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Great list! Clap I voted for some of these. Smile Thanks again for making this possible, Ben. Clap

2010 was a spectacular year for metal, especially in the death and prog spectrum. Headbanger


2010 was a bit of meh year for me. Couldn't even compile a list of 5 releases worth 10 IMO, metal-wise. Cry


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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 8:45pm
Valley of Smoke just missed out on a spot in the tied-for-10th category. Voting depth wasn't that huge given we only have a few collabs, and even then, some didn't vote.


Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 8:46pm
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Valley of Smoke just missed out on a spot in the tied-for-10th category. Voting depth wasn't that huge given we only have a few collabs, and even then, some didn't vote.


My case.


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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2011 at 10:59pm
Good to see that 2 of the albums I voted for made the list (Agalloch and The Ocean).  Smile

And thanks to Ben for compiling the data Clap.  Now I can't wait until next year's list, but first I need to hear more than one 2011 metal album LOL.


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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 2:12am
Circle of Ouroborus tied on the 10th place! I guess I should have chosen something less underground as the top 2010 release because I doubt many will enjoy that album. LOL Anyhow, happy to see Alcest and Agalloch (though I didn't vote for that album, still haven't listened to it enough) on the list!


Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:10am
My vote was for Jupiter (not really a moment of drag on the album...tough to beat that!) but Marrow of the Spirit was of course my second.

Agree/had most of the list.

Shame Valley of Smoke missed it, that album was a top 5!


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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:32am
Thanks Ben!
 
Well presented Clap


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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:33am
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Valley of Smoke just missed out on a spot in the tied-for-10th category. Voting depth wasn't that huge given we only have a few collabs, and even then, some didn't vote.


My case.
 
It wasn't for the lack of great albums in 2010, if you were prepared to go looking for them.
 
 


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 4:32am
That is a great piece of work BenClap. I like the quotes from the reviews and the short introduction to the albums. I hope this is how you imagine doing it every year. Ill ask Max/ Phil if they can find room on the frontpage for album of the year. Maybe you wanna contact Agalloch and tell them that their album was voted album of the year here on Metal Music Archives?

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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:13am
Great work guys !!!

What do you think , I put in the homepage the cover of the th TOP 1 , plus a text link to this POST to read all the others TOP ? Or I list them all in the front page ?




Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:25am
I think you should just put the cover of number 1 on the frontpage with a link to this thread.

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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:30am
working on it now


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:33am
Why not list them all? I think that could attract more people to the MMA, because it encompasses more genres.

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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:34am
Wacko it's up to you guys 


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 10:43am
I was just worried they would take up too much space, but if thats not a problem I guess all of them could be on the frontpage. They should only be on the frontpage for a limited time though right?

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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 1:30pm
Suggestion: Top 1 cover + list 10 in text , plus link to this thread


Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 1:30pm
Or TOP 3 with cover , full list only in forum 


Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 2:02pm
Check the homepage  http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/  , please comments


Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by m@x [email protected] wrote:

Check the homepage  http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/  , please comments


I think that works just fine, Max.  I can't think of anywhere else it could go without upsetting the overall look of the main page.  Top right, above all other site news, seems appropriate. Smile


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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 2:35pm
Looks great I think!


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by m@x [email protected] wrote:

Check the homepage  http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/  , please comments


Looks great! Well done Max! Clap


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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 2:56pm
^Good idea

It's good to see that my top three all made it in( Victims, Final Frontier, and Aquarius).


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:17pm
Looks good to me. Thumbs Up

Now I really got to be checking out Marrow of the Spirit... Wink

Nice to see my top two made #2 and #3 though. Big smile


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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 4:01pm
I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Jupiter Wacko

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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by andyman1125 andyman1125 wrote:

I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Jupiter Wacko


I didn't vote for it, but I still like it.  It's no Unquestionable Presence though LOL.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 4:19pm
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by andyman1125 andyman1125 wrote:

I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Jupiter Wacko


I didn't vote for it, but I still like it.  It's no Unquestionable Presence though LOL.


Same here. It's a great return for Atheist, but I don't think it can compete with their albums in the 90's.


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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 4:35pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by andyman1125 andyman1125 wrote:

I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Jupiter Wacko


I didn't vote for it, but I still like it.  It's no Unquestionable Presence though LOL.


Same here. It's a great return for Atheist, but I don't think it can compete with their albums in the 90's.

My thoughts exactly. It seemed a bit stale, IMO. 


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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 5:21pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by andyman1125 andyman1125 wrote:

I seem to be the only one who doesn't like Jupiter Wacko


I didn't vote for it, but I still like it.  It's no Unquestionable Presence though LOL.


Same here. It's a great return for Atheist, but I don't think it can compete with their albums in the 90's.


Jupiter is on par or with Piece of Tme IMO, though understandably some will say it is better than Piece. Tongue


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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 8:56pm
I've only heard UP and Elements (and Jupiter), so I can't make a comparison Wink

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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 3:11am
I'm happy the list didn't turn out to include nothing but prog metal releases, though they still kind of dominate LOL. PA roots are clearly visible, but maybe this year we'll have lots of new faces over here that will balance the situation a bit.


Posted By: bratus
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 9:36am
I am surprized not to find Flotsam & Jetsam 'The Cold' in the list...

Blind Guardian could be in the list as well...


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 2:49pm
Wha? PA metal is the better metal Tongue


Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2011 at 3:59pm
Let's not be so biased now WinkLOL

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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 4:48pm
I like the front page idea guys, thanks for all the good and constructive comments. And Jonas, the format of this presentation follows the one supplied at PA... it seems to work fine. It just needs to be expanded when we have a larger database, collaborator base and potentially bigger user base.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 8:30pm
My top album is #1 so I'm happy

Also, just like to point out that, although Negura Bunget's 2010 album Vrstele Pamntului was only tied for #11, it was included on more lists (with 2) than half of the #10 ranked albums


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 3:13am
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I like the front page idea guys, thanks for all the good and constructive comments. And Jonas, the format of this presentation follows the one supplied at PA... it seems to work fine. It just needs to be expanded when we have a larger database, collaborator base and potentially bigger user base.
 
Oh I didnt know that. Didnt participate this year.


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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:05am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I like the front page idea guys, thanks for all the good and constructive comments. And Jonas, the format of this presentation follows the one supplied at PA... it seems to work fine. It just needs to be expanded when we have a larger database, collaborator base and potentially bigger user base.
 
Oh I didnt know that. Didnt participate this year.
 
Its not finalised yet Jonas.


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:53am
^Oh hell Ive put in a list. I cant say Ive been very focused on progressive rock/ metal in 2010 though, so there wasnt that many releases to consider in my case. I even had to include The Final Frontier because I couldnt think of anything else.

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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:11am
Nothing wrong with that list at all! Approve

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 7:24am
No its more my enthusiasm that isnt at its highestUnhappy.

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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 7:39am
I assume that means recent events and I'll add you are not the only one by a long distance Unhappy

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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:40pm
Not a bad list at all.  Good work guys.

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 31 Jan 2011 at 8:17pm
Just a thought, should this be stickied?  it is on PA


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 3:59am
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Just a thought, should this be stickied?  it is on PA
 
Agreed, thanks Colin.
 
I have, however, amended the thread to an announcement rather than a sticky as I believe it is more important than that.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 7:00am
My top metal albums of the year, just for the record (if there is another thread where regular members can post their tops, I didn't notice it, sorry):

1. Agalloch - Marrow Of The Spirit
2. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
3. Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini
4. Les Discrets - Septembre et ses derniers pensees
5. East Of The Wall - Ressentiment
6. Intronaut - Valley Of Smoke
7. Periphery - s/t
8. White Walls - Mad Man Circus
9. Ihsahn - After
10. Cloudkicker - Beacons



Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2011 at 4:17pm

Sorry for being a party-pooper but I'm a quite disappointed with this list.
Not that I'd disagree with the quality of the albums as such but ALL of them are PA-metal; there's not one real metal album Ermm



Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 5:19pm
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.


he is just being stuck up and/or obnoxious


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:


 ALL of them are PA-metal; there's not one real metal album Ermm



So metal that is in a prog database is not real metal?


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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 7:31pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:


 ALL of them are PA-metal; there's not one real metal album Ermm



So metal that is in a prog database is not real metal?

WackoWhat he might be trying to say is that in his opinion prog isn't a real metal genre.Wacko


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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 10:49pm
I'm sure all bonnek was referring to was that pretty much every band on the list were/are on PA.  It just so happens that most of the collabs here are also members at Prog Archives, so the tastes might lean a bit towards the "proggy" metal bands.  As more people who are not on PA take interest in this site and want to apply to be a collab, the list could shift away from this trend.  In a sense, I know what (I think) he means, and agree.  Maybe some grindcore, glam, alternative, etc. will crack the list next year.  I like a good variety.

Then again, just because I am (or someone else is) also a PA member, it doesn't mean they're going to vote for all prog metal albums.  Each collab submitted one list (with equal weight per collab), and several of us included bands that wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in making it on Prog Archives.

To be completely honest, my top 5 included nothing but PA bands, but 2011 could be different. Smile


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Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 6:18am
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

I'm sure all bonnek was referring to was that pretty much every band on the list were/are on PA.  It just so happens that most of the collabs here are also members at Prog Archives, so the tastes might lean a bit towards the "proggy" metal bands.  As more people who are not on PA take interest in this site and want to apply to be a collab, the list could shift away from this trend.  In a sense, I know what (I think) he means, and agree.  Maybe some grindcore, glam, alternative, etc. will crack the list next year.  I like a good variety.

Then again, just because I am (or someone else is) also a PA member, it doesn't mean they're going to vote for all prog metal albums.  Each collab submitted one list (with equal weight per collab), and several of us included bands that wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in making it on Prog Archives.

To be completely honest, my top 5 included nothing but PA bands, but 2011 could be different. Smile


This. Clap
And being a bit obnoxious by putting my statement so black and white of course.
After all this is the metal-me here, not the proggy-mellow-artsy-fartsy-me Evil Smile

I haven't been on MMA since it started and I had hoped it would have cut itself loose from its PA-roots by now, but it will take a bit more time probably.

I think I'll try to do my bit by stopping to copy-in my PA reviews and focus on 'real-metal' ones, though it may be a lot of old-man-metal like Megadeth, Testament, Celtic Frost and so (damn i'm making even more enemies nowOuch)




Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 7:21am
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.


The 1 billion $ question for PMT members!
We could spend the rest of our lives discussing this, but I always put it quite simply like this:

What I teasingly call 'real metal' is:
     - being more metal then the band next door, that is being heavier, sleazier, more aggressive or more evil
     - sounding exactly like any other random metal band.
Prog metal is about
    - adding non-metal elements such as Prog, Jazz, Avant to the metal sound and song structure
    - or sounding exactly like another Prog-metal band who did so.

And of course it's no exact science. Meshuggah is heavier, more aggressive and more evil then anything else but they also add non-metal bits.


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 2:59pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.


The 1 billion $ question for PMT members!
We could spend the rest of our lives discussing this, but I always put it quite simply like this:

What I teasingly call 'real metal' is:
     - being more metal then the band next door, that is being heavier, sleazier, more aggressive or more evil
     - sounding exactly like any other random metal band.
Prog metal is about
    - adding non-metal elements such as Prog, Jazz, Avant to the metal sound and song structure
    - or sounding exactly like another Prog-metal band who did so.

And of course it's no exact science. Meshuggah is heavier, more aggressive and more evil then anything else but they also add non-metal bits.


So Iron Maiden, Atheist, and Enslaved aren't real metal? Good luck getting that message out to the masses! LOLTongue


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Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:03pm
Iron Maiden isn't prog, lol.
The others prove my point exactly, much more then just metal.

Anyway, I did my bit, if you want to make this place into a Prog Metal Archives, go ahead.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:15pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

Iron Maiden isn't prog, lol.
The others prove my point exactly, much more then just metal.

Anyway, I did my bit, if you want to make this place into a Prog Metal Archives, go ahead.


I don't think that's what the case is, those were just legitimately our favourite metal albums from this year.  I didn't hear any, say, death metal or doom metal from 2010 that I found particularly impressive.  Besides, I can't speak for the other members but the reason I'm in the sludge/post and avant teams is because that's where most of my favourite metal lies.  Those two subgenres are, by your definitions, progressive, and I can't help it if that's what I find most appealing


Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:20pm

I'll try to rephrase again,
I'm not attacking anybody's choices, a couple of those albums would be in my top 10 as well,
I'm just saying that if a metal fan will see this list he'll say, "oh that's a prog metal site, not interested".

Oh and the best metal album of the year was easily Tryptikon's Eparistera Daimones Headbanger


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:24pm
I don't believe that, most of those albums were topping metal lists all over the net


Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:29pm
we're on another net


Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:37pm
^Yeah, and there are some people not from PA here and some of them voted the same as what everyone else did.

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Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:42pm

aha, more proof of what i was saying, this site seems to attract prog metal fans above all




Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2011 at 2:36am
Itll change in time Karl. Right now we should be happy that so many people from PA have chosen to contribute to building MMA. As MMA is spawned by PA its only natural that most Collabs working on the database ( which means the ones who have put in the votes that determined the albums that ended up on the 2011 top 10) are interested in the progressive/ avant garde/ experimental side of metal. There are still plenty of room left for more Collaborators who would like to do team work, and Im sure some of those Collab spots will be taken by non-PA members in the future ( and here I would like to stress that we are also very happy that PA members are contributingSmile).
 
A site like this takes a couple of years ( and maybe even longer) to be a force on the net. Things take time. I dont necessarily share your concern that visiters will say: quote: "oh that's a prog metal site, not interested". In the last couple of months weve had about a 100 people each month becoming members of the forum and Im pretty sure not all of those come from PA ( not that I have proof of courseBig smile). Also if they look on the frontpage, Id say the reviews represent other subs than prog metal/ prog-related metal and I think thats what people are most interested in. While MMA ( like PA) has many great features, its always the reviews streaming on the frontpage that will be the main attraction.
 
( actually right now there is only one progressive metal album review showing on the frontpage)


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Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2011 at 4:56am

^ Yes, I noticed that too, the recent reviews on the homepage go in the right direction, I'll add a bunch more later today Thumbs Up


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2011 at 7:14am
And damn it, now its almost only progressive related reviews on the frontpageConfusedLOL

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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2011 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

Oh and the best metal album of the year was easily Tryptikon's Eparistera Daimones Headbanger

Looking forward to your review of that one Wink I loved Monotheist, but I didn't give this one enough spins to put it on the list. Should belong there, I'd imagine.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2011 at 8:19am
I always hear the metal first, then the non-metal elements. If I hear them at all. I have a friend who's a musician and he's massively into contemporary music, concrete music, and all forms of avantgarde in general. He says that he hears elements of serialism in Paracletus... Well fuck me, they must be hidden somewhere behind the wall of noise. LOL

Also, the tendency to make of metal something that it wasn't intented to be was pretty much the dominant trend in the decade that passed, and it is now widely accepted. There is a lot of PA stuff in other 2010 tops on the net; for example, the AllMusic top metal list of 2010 contains Agalloch, Deathspell Omega, Sigh, The Ocean, Enslaved, Rosetta, Kylesa and Nachtmystium. That's a whole third of their list.


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 27 Feb 2011 at 1:29pm
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

There is a lot of PA stuff in other 2010 tops on the net


I already said that, gosh


Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 2:00pm
Jeez Louise Wink


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2011 at 2:55pm
^LOL

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Posted By: bonnek
Date Posted: 05 Mar 2011 at 4:44am
 
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

There is a lot of PA stuff in other 2010 tops on the net


Yeah Haken and Star One are all over the place, lol.
The point was not "a lot of PA" albums, it was "only PA" albums.
And of course some of those albums are amongst the best metal release in 2010, that wasn't the point neither.



Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 8:02pm
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

And damn it, now its almost only progressive related reviews on the frontpageConfusedLOL

I think around that time I was copying all my PA reviews, so that is probably why they were all prog-metal LOL


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2011 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:


aha, more proof of what i was saying, this site seems to attract prog metal fans above all




Well,most of us (and pretty much all the higher ups currently) come from PA so what do you expect?
LOL




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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 10 May 2011 at 8:13pm
Should Agalloch get a pretty little banner like at PA? (Saying "Collaborators Top Album of 2010")

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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 10 May 2011 at 11:20pm
Probably they should, yes.


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 1:38am
Andy you could PM Max and ask him what he thinks of the idea.

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Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 5:25am


We will do this ! Good idea !


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 30 May 2011 at 12:05pm
I'd just like to say that if I were to update my personal top 10 Anthropocentric would be on it


Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 26 Jun 2011 at 5:28pm
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I'd just like to say that if I were to update my personal top 10 Anthropocentric would be on it


Goods Big smile
That one made mah top 5 boi, it was a definite grower but sooo good.


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