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Topic: The Collaborator's Handbook
Posted By: adg211288
Subject: The Collaborator's Handbook
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 4:44am
This is the major revision of the Collaborator's Handbook that the admin team have been building for some time. Unlike the previous one based on forum posts this one will be available as a PDF file that you can either view online or download to your computer. You can access it at from the below link which we will update as required, as well as posting in this thread what changes have been made between versions. The thread may also be used to give the admin team any feedback on the handbook and the site policies detailed therein as well as to ask any questions if you're unsure of anything.

http://www.dropbox.com/s/uqjq6sla1j7cj2c/Handbook%20V2.pdf?dl=0" rel="nofollow - https://www.dropbox.com/s/uqjq6sla1j7cj2c/Handbook%20V2.pdf?dl=0

Current Revision: Version 2.7 (18.03.2017)

Dropbox may ask you to create an account or log-in but this is not required to access the Handbook.


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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 30 Jun 2016 at 10:34am
This is great work.

I haven't had time to read it in depth yet but a bit of feedback based on the bits I've skimmed through so far:

Quote Never write Female Vocals after a female performer's credit. Again, vocals are vocals. No one writes Male Vocals after a male performer's credit after all. It's sexism to differentiate between male and female performers this way, which is not something that MMA will tolerate in our collaborators or neutrally written records.


Thank you so much for putting this in. It pisses me off so much when I'm researching missing bands on EM with the way they insist of segregating women with the 'vocals (female)' credit.

Having a section on current site issues should prove helpful too, though I'd like to see these kinds of things get fixed soon.


Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2016 at 1:11am
Just read it all. Don't know how much actually went in.LOL

It's a good set of standards and instructions. The only major thing I've been doing wrong is sticking the bonus tracks in the wrong place.Embarrassed That's my fault for not reading the handbook thoroughly earlier.


Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 9:36am
Ok! It's time to some collaboration...


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 10 Jul 2016 at 1:32pm
Handbook revision 2.1 uploaded. 

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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2016 at 5:30am
Handbook revision 2.2 uploaded. 

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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 07 Aug 2016 at 5:09am
Handbook revision 2.4 (finally) uploaded.

Covers the last of the new sub-genre additions and some notes on the Collaborator Helper Program. 


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2016 at 4:44am
Handbook revision 2.5 has been uploaded.

This version updates our policy on how Proto-Metal and early Hard Rock are handled. 


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2017 at 1:48pm
Handbook revision 2.6 has been uploaded.

This version covers the updated policies on Hard Rock and Hardcore & Crust, adds a new policy on how genre disputes should be handled, among other things. Collabs can expect to find a more detailed announcement in the forum Collab Zone shortly. 


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2017 at 2:10pm
Handbook 2.7 uploaded.

Adds in the reference to glam now requiring approval and re-writes a couple of sections in the name of making them clearer. 


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 17 May 2018 at 5:27pm
OK, i give up and i forgot how because it's been too long. Not in the collab book. I checked first.

How do i add a Various Artist release?

HELP!


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 17 May 2018 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

OK, i give up and i forgot how because it's been too long. Not in the collab book. I checked first.

How do i add a Various Artist release?

HELP!

Various Artists are under V. 
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/various-artists-general" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/artist/various-artists-general

Add the album as you would a normal one, then add the URLs for any of the artists we have.
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/various-artists-general/metal-for-muthas" rel="nofollow - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/various-artists-general/metal-for-muthas

Must ask to get that changed to being put under V.A.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 7:07am
^ so i wrote a review for a buddy on RYM for his Metal Madness Vol 1 comp and of all the 39 artists on it, NONE are on here.

Yes, i will do the honor of adding them all. Most are fairly new and only have one or two releases but obviusly it will take a while.

Thanks, Vim! And yes, this is a very bad system on this one ;)


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 18 May 2018 at 7:20am
Oh, and BTW there should really be a genre category called VARIOUS GENRES for comps that are all over the map. In fact it would be useful for bands like Mr Bungle as well ;)

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 10:43am
I may have asked this before but i don't remember the answer if i did.

Is it not possible to add bands under Chinese characters? I see it's OK to add albums but no way to do bands.

I have been adding them with the Latinate pinyin but it would be more appropriate for bands that use their characters instead of Latin alphabet to be emphasized.

If it is possible, how do i do it?


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 11:34am
Other alphabets really screw up. But you can get around it by adding as Latin first and then changing it after the profile has been created. It works for Cyrillic anyway like that (which is also okay when just adding a release). 

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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 4:39pm
Exactly what Adam said. I have done it myself. Add profile in English text first, including at least one album, and then you can change the band name. It seems to be once it's established in the database it's OK.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm
Thanks, guys! One more question. On the PA top 250, proto-prog and prog related are not allowed on the charts. I think we have too many King Crimson and hard rock albums on the top 100. Can we change that or can [email protected] during the next visit? Also can WE get a top 250? 100 ain't enough!!


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 14 Nov 2020 at 1:13am
I have no issue with MMA relevant albums being among the high rated on the site but in general we do need better charts, including proper filters for those who don't want to see this or that genre included.

Getting Max in the door right now is the big challenge. 


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 10:23am
What happened to the VARIOUS METAL GENRES category for adding albums?

I found that to be a very relevant tag for various artists releases that truly have no dominant style.

There are also a few bands that could possibly qualify.


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 11:06am
We never had one, Mike? What we do have are three various artists profiles for adding compilations and the like.


Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

What happened to the VARIOUS METAL GENRES category for adding albums?

I found that to be a very relevant tag for various artists releases that truly have no dominant style.

There are also a few bands that could possibly qualify.

It's one where you just have to make a call sometimes. It doesn't make any difference as to where the album sits in the Various Artists sections. If it's a really big mix of genres with nothing dominant, then I either tag it just Heavy Metal, or tag it to the first song on the album.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 1:31pm
Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

What happened to the VARIOUS METAL GENRES category for adding albums?

I found that to be a very relevant tag for various artists releases that truly have no dominant style.

There are also a few bands that could possibly qualify.

I think only PA ever had that. 


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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 6:00pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

What happened to the VARIOUS METAL GENRES category for adding albums?

I found that to be a very relevant tag for various artists releases that truly have no dominant style.

There are also a few bands that could possibly qualify.

I think only PA ever had that. 


NO! It was here too. For a short while. I think. Am i going crazy? It is 2020 after all :D


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 6:07pm
You know, I could've sworn there was a various metal genres for a very very short time as well, but I think it was broken like the non-metal under other so it wasn't meant to be there.


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 1:30am
Let's check the wayback machine. Often an interesting insight to MMA's growth. Like did you know that we had Nu Metal in 2010? And every newbie kid's favourite genre of Trash Metal? Wink

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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 1:33am
There is a V.A. under the Artist Alpha-Index if that's what you're thinking of. It misleadingly takes you to artists whose names start with numbers though. 

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 7:38am
Well whatever the case, i think a VARIOUS  METAL GENRES tag would be quite useful for various artists releases, band compilations when a band changed its styles often and for whatever other purpose so whether it was here or a glitch in the matrix then i for one would love to see it included. This would be particularly useful for artists like Buckethead who can have five different genres on a single release.


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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 8:36am
I agree in principle, so long as it was used properly. Most albums can be pinned down if you try hard enough. We don't want people hypothetically saying 'I can hear both black and death metal in this' and tagging it VMG. 


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 6:16pm
^ yeah i get that. I'm only for it for obvious cases like splits, compilations from a band that cover genre shifts and of course various artists comps that showcase bands from labels and stuff like that.


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 2:16am
Splits, being added to more than one page as they are, should be tagged accordingly to the artist of the particular page, now overall sound between all contributors. A five way split of four death metal bands and one black metal band should still be tagged black metal on that artist's page for example.

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 04 Dec 2020 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Splits, being added to more than one page as they are, should be tagged accordingly to the artist of the particular page, now overall sound between all contributors. A five way split of four death metal bands and one black metal band should still be tagged black metal on that artist's page for example.


Will there ever be the option of multi-tagging albums here? RYM has one up on us for sure with that  one


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Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2020 at 2:59am
It's an idea that's come up between us and one I'd definitely like to see. For at least two tags, like you'd have a 'main' tag which is the genre that would appear under the release but also a secondary tag that would additionally file that release in a second sub-genre. 

But this is all stuff we need Max here for and fully invested in making the site the best it can possible be. And right now we just cannot get him to communicate with us. 


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