Deathcore issues

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I looked up a lot of the deathcore bands here and a large amount of them are in death metal. I have three reasons why most should be in metalcore rather than death metal:

1. Except for superficial elements like distortion and tone on the guitar and the amount of double bass and some blastbeats, it doesn't really have a lot in common with death metal. It's closer in composition and riffing style to metalcore, and when you add in the breakdown element it becomes all more apparent.

2. "Purist" metal fans will agree with point #1, and upon coming across BMTH or Despised Icon in Death metal they will think we don't know what we're talking about. They may avoid this site for our lack of knowledge.

3. Metal purists can be upset that a core band is even called metal and should be upset that they even belong on the website. This site is going to include them because we feel we need any band like that. However, it is even more upsetting to find 'core' bands in a more 'true' metal genre.

By putting the deathcore bands in metalcore not only will they have their proper categorization, but we will have a wider audience who may come to this site, even the metal purists. Any thoughts? I mean this as constructive criticism.

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topofsm Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hate state, USA Status: Offline Points: 689	Post Options Post Reply Quote topofsm Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Deathcore issues Posted: 23 Jul 2010 at 2:55pm
	I looked up a lot of the deathcore bands here and a large amount of them are in death metal. I have three reasons why most should be in metalcore rather than death metal: 1. Except for superficial elements like distortion and tone on the guitar and the amount of double bass and some blastbeats, it doesn't really have a lot in common with death metal. It's closer in composition and riffing style to metalcore, and when you add in the breakdown element it becomes all more apparent. 2. "Purist" metal fans will agree with point #1, and upon coming across BMTH or Despised Icon in Death metal they will think we don't know what we're talking about. They may avoid this site for our lack of knowledge. 3. Metal purists can be upset that a core band is even called metal and should be upset that they even belong on the website. This site is going to include them because we feel we need any band like that. However, it is even more upsetting to find 'core' bands in a more 'true' metal genre. By putting the deathcore bands in metalcore not only will they have their proper categorization, but we will have a wider audience who may come to this site, even the metal purists. Any thoughts? I mean this as constructive criticism.
	Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.

Stooge Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Visit Members Homepage Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator/Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Whitby, ON, CAN Status: Offline Points: 5637	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stooge Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 2010 at 3:02pm
	You're correct. I believe even here on MMA, deathcore is listed as a sub-category of metalcore. http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/metalcore(subgenre).aspx Many deathcore bands are already listed under metalcore, but feel free to share more bands of concern so that they can be (re)evaluated.

Raff Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Senior Member Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1006	Post Options Post Reply Quote Raff Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Jul 2010 at 5:37pm
	Hopefully some of the death metal teamsters will chime in... Jonas (UMUR) is now on vacation, but I'm quite sure he'll give his valuable input when he comes back. On the other hand, the Metalcore team seems to have disintegrated, so any volunteers for it would be very welcome.

Time Signature Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7690	Post Options Post Reply Quote Time Signature Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 6:57am
	Let me just remind/inform people that the death metal artist inventory (like any other original genre here on MMA) was automatically imported from elsewhere, which has resulted in a lot of misclassifications and other oddities. We are far from done when it comes to cleaning up that "mess". I myself have moved a lot of artists from death metal and thrash metal to metalcore, but there is atill a lot of work to be done, and countrification and bio-clean-ups are currently the top priorities (typically, we move irrelevant bands from the genre as part of the countrification process). That being said, any suggestions as to bands that should/could be moved from death metal to metalcore will be useful and will help us already at this stage, so I would personally welcome them. But, please have patience.


topofsm Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hate state, USA Status: Offline Points: 689	Post Options Post Reply Quote topofsm Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Jul 2010 at 1:02pm
	Deathcore bands in Death metal: Bring Me the Horizon All Shall Perish Despised Icon Whitechapel Job For a Cowboy As Blood Runs Black Arsonists Get all the Girls Born of Osiris Heaven Shall Burn Animosity Through The Eyes of the Dead Rose Funeral With Blood Comes Cleansing Emmure Knights of the Abyss Burning Skies After the Burial Suffokate Beneath the Massacre Just a few for starters
	Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.

Time Signature Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7690	Post Options Post Reply Quote Time Signature Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 Jul 2010 at 2:49pm
	Thanks :-)