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    Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 9:43pm
I propose that when categorizing these bands, we drop the prog, and place them based on their particular brand of extreme metal. This will avoid flooding Prog Metal with a vast number of bands that sound nothing alike, and will allow us to NOT have to make an extra category for these bands, when many of them, again, sound quite different from one another.

The "Progressive Metal" category should be left for bands such as Dream Theater, Queensryche, Fates Warning, Pain Of Salvation, ect.

I told Dave (birdwithteeth11) and Alex (MovingPictures07) this privately and they both agree, I'm interested to see what the rest of you think about this.

(Maybe we were all already on this page, I dunno. Just thought I'd put it out there.)
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I second that. 
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I think that�s the best way to do it tooThumbs Up
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stooge Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 2010 at 3:12pm
I agree, but am still unsure what category Between The Buried In Me would fall under. LOL
Aren't they prog-metal now?
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Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

I agree, but am still unsure what category Between The Buried In Me would fall under. LOL
Aren't they prog-metal now?  

At the album level "The Great Misdirect" is believe to be Prog Metal, Death metal or Metalcore.

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BtBAM would still fit in metalcore for me.
Opeth would still fit in Death
Unexpect in Avant
 
And where is the rest of Devy's stuff? Project, Band, Solo should all be together. SYL separate of course, but we need Accelerated Evolution and Deconstruction to be all under the same banner.
 
 
On a separate note, Mr. Bungle should be Avant-Metal rather than Death Metal.


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A metal website has to acknowledge the existence of subgenres like melodic death metal or symphonic black metal or progressive death metal..... 

Opeth belongs either in a hypothetical progressive death metal or in death metal period. 
BTBAM certainly would fit in either progressive metal or metalcore. 

Remember: the "progressive" tag that we have dealt with for so long still differentiates these bands from other metal outfits.... In metal there's 49137294381701 subdivisions... just check metal-observer or encyclopedia metallum for an idea... 
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

And where is the rest of Devy's stuff? Project, Band, Solo should all be together. SYL separate of course, but we need Accelerated Evolution and Deconstruction to be all under the same banner.
 
 
 
I think Industrial would actually be the best fit for both of them, since that seems to be where he takes the most influence from.
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When fleshing out the descriptions for the various subcategories here, rather than adding in heaps and bounds of additional tags to apply for any given artist or album, I think it would be better to just outline the style variations of each main subset in the genre description.

As for Death Metal, I see RYM has the following movements mentioned:
Death Metal
Blackened Death Metal
Brutal Death Metal
Death 'n' Roll
Deathgrind
Melodic Death Metal
Progressive Death Metal
Technical Death Metal
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Interesting , but for now, I would prefer using a simple organization scheme and use theses style variations in the bio or the artists or in the album field "More about this album" .

I tend to prefer simple main sub-genres, and allow experts and team members edit some general text informations fields to better categorized (if important or needed).


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Yes please let us not split up the death metal sub. All sub genres to the death metal sub that Olav mentions in his post above fit well within the borders of the current death metal sub.

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