Metal if Prog hadnt happend

Just curious

If it just happend that psychdalic/progressive rock did not happen, or existed, would there have been metal, would metal as a genre existed if ther had not been psychadelic/progressive rock movement, what would metal have sounded like if the only imput were the blues based hard rock proto metal bands (even they had prog-elements), but what if all prog was exclueded from peoples memorys and history, what if it just not had taken place, like drawing a big line over Genesis, King Crimson, Yes, Procol Harum Pink Floyd, ELP  (literly )  it just scared me if that happend, would theri only be bands like Mot�rhead, AC/DC and their like, what if Lynyrd Skynyrd and ZZ Top were the only influance on metal, 

this though accored to me when i made a hip hop poll in PA ,  that hip hop would not have existed if their had been no Jazz, if Jazz was excluded from peoples memory rap (and obviously most modern popular music)) would have just not happend, or it would only be samples or spoken word over Blues samples ,

also this is halfway a insane way for me to implay that the moniker for PA, MMA, JMA should be for Rap also, RMA and that such a site is needed, a civil place for discussing rap, in a more politemanner, it works for MMA and i was afraid MMA would turn into a swearing pool, but it hassent, not that rap is just swearing.

ok alot of different angles in this thread it is almost a blogg, but it is about metal but also about just development of different generes or what if a previous genre just did not take place (by a mystery not known to me),

what say you


Edited by Balthamel - 09 Dec 2011 at 7:32am

Time Signature wrote: I'd say that without prog, no metal. Without blues, no metal. Without rock 'n' roll, no metal. Without psychedelic rock, no metal. etc. Metal is, and has always been, a bastard genre... which is why I love it so much.

This

i agree but if you took out the element of prog in metal how would metal have evolved moved, it is difficult to imposible to answer but it sure would have sounded different

Dream Theatre would be interesting to hear if the people still formed a band.

I'm sure Haken would be considered a pop act.

without prog there still would have been Sabbath and Motorhead 

Edited by Triceratopsoil - 06 Dec 2020 at 9:12pm

Triceratopsoil wrote: without prog there still would have been Sabbath and Motorhead  bands like Maiden and Priest would likely have gone a different, punkier direction the development of thrash metal wouldn't have changed much virtually nothing in the black metal family tree has to do with prog rock there would be no prog metal, naturally, and the evolution of death metal would be vastly different

LittleBig wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: without prog there still would have been Sabbath and Motorhead  bands like Maiden and Priest would likely have gone a different, punkier direction the development of thrash metal wouldn't have changed much virtually nothing in the black metal family tree has to do with prog rock there would be no prog metal, naturally, and the evolution of death metal would be vastly different prog rock also means that experimental attitude, going beyond the simple verse-chorus-verse structure that a lot of metal subgenres are doing, including black metal. I also think Hawkwind was a good influence on Lemmy as a musician, so no Hawkwind, what would change with Motorhead?

More to the point, Motorhead (which is heavily rooted in Chuck Berry, Little Richard, MC5, etc) indicates Lemmy's influences don't really align with the rest of Hawkwind.  Even the handful of songs he composed for Hawkwind sound like Motorhead

Edited by Triceratopsoil - 07 Dec 2020 at 12:39pm