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Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Nice!

Surprised Armored Saint didn't get in the top 25 with how many votes it got.

Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

As per usual, there's also a List Challenge for this year's result. Check off how many you've heard here: https://www.listchallenges.com/metal-music-archives-best-of-the-year-2020


Got 10, all ones I voted for. Only ones I haven't heard that I could see myself checking out at some point would be the new Hatebreed and Trivium albums. Maybe Sepultura too, as Machine Messiah was really good but I just haven't been in the mood.

Quadra is better than Machine Messiah.
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Quadrant is good. The Hatebreed album is solid. My only comment is that it’s something you’ll have heard many times before. The Trivium album is very good in my opinion.
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There's quite a few on here where I own something else by the artist but didn't check these releases out: Anubis Gate, My Dying Bride, Katatonia (I do only have the death-doom stuff though), Alestorm, Rage, Dark Tranquillity, Trivium & Fates Warning.

I reckon Soilwork, Conception, Coexistence, Ensiferum and yet more on there may be up my street too. 
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The Soilwork EP is really good, especially the 16 minute title track. It's classed as an EP but longer than some albums at 36 minutes. 

I was looking to buy it but can't find any hard copies anywhere.
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There's a few on Discogs but the price is high. Only a limited number of copies pressed, though a second press seems to be down as being released today. It's for sale on Nuclear Blast directly, with the caveat on UK orders being put on hold indefinitely (thanks muchly Brexit, I presume). 
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Glad to see Psychotic Waltz got so high on the list! I friggin' LOVE that album!Big smile
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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

As per usual, there's also a List Challenge for this year's result. Check off how many you've heard here: https://www.listchallenges.com/metal-music-archives-best-of-the-year-2020

41 for me. 

One of the tings I like about these end of year lists is there's always something new to discover you've missed. I've already ordered the Gaerea album and have Eternal Champion on my to buy list.

Glad to hear! I promise you won't be disappointed! Superb USPM!!


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Great work Paul!
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Thanks Nicole.
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Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

There's a few on Discogs but the price is high. Only a limited number of copies pressed, though a second press seems to be down as being released today. It's for sale on Nuclear Blast directly, with the caveat on UK orders being put on hold indefinitely (thanks muchly Brexit, I presume). 

Yes don't want to pay a fortune, especially for an EP. I'll wait and it'll probably become more available sooner or later.
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I´m just glad Paradise Lost reached number 2 on the list. My album of the year. I haven´t been this excited about a Paradise Lost album in a long time, although the two direct predecessors were pretty great too.
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great work Thumbs Up

i don't know what Neal Morse is doing here, since I was told to post metal albums exclusively. Also a weak predictable album, I have never understood the hype, if I say Neal Morse is the AC/DC of prog, i'm insulting AC/DC. Sorry... 

Also surprised Ayreon's new one is so high in the list. Made me quit on Ayreon altogether, his last few album were a chore to listen to, no fun, no flow. The new one unlistenable for me. I don't know but I'm missing something here.  Confused
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Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

The Trivium album is very good in my opinion.

I haven't listened to them since The Crusade, they were always a little too metalcore for my tastes.  Ascendancy had some great guitar tones & playing though.  Have the clean vocals improved at all and/or gone away?  
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Also I'm liking this trend in painted album art 
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Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

great work Thumbs Up

i don't know what Neal Morse is doing here, since I was told to post metal albums exclusively. Also a weak predictable album, I have never understood the hype, if I say Neal Morse is the AC/DC of prog, i'm insulting AC/DC. Sorry... 

Morse was allowed per following rule:

Metal Related tagged albums are permitted, however we expect voters to use their discretion with such albums and considered whether a Metal Related tagged release really deserves to be placed on a metal website's best of year list.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Unitron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Feb 2021 at 11:31am
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

The Trivium album is very good in my opinion.

I haven't listened to them since The Crusade, they were always a little too metalcore for my tastes.  Ascendancy had some great guitar tones & playing though.  Have the clean vocals improved at all and/or gone away?  


His clean vocals are way better than they used to be, he's not just trying to sound exactly like Hetfield anymore. Sin and the Sentence was a pretty good album from what I remember.
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Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

great work Thumbs Up

i don't know what Neal Morse is doing here, since I was told to post metal albums exclusively. Also a weak predictable album, I have never understood the hype, if I say Neal Morse is the AC/DC of prog, i'm insulting AC/DC. Sorry... 

Also surprised Ayreon's new one is so high in the list. Made me quit on Ayreon altogether, his last few album were a chore to listen to, no fun, no flow. The new one unlistenable for me. I don't know but I'm missing something here.  Confused


I think Neal Morse's write-up explains well enough why he's eligible.
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Originally posted by TheHeavyMetalCat TheHeavyMetalCat wrote:

Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

great work Thumbs Up

i don't know what Neal Morse is doing here, since I was told to post metal albums exclusively. Also a weak predictable album, I have never understood the hype, if I say Neal Morse is the AC/DC of prog, i'm insulting AC/DC. Sorry... 

Also surprised Ayreon's new one is so high in the list. Made me quit on Ayreon altogether, his last few album were a chore to listen to, no fun, no flow. The new one unlistenable for me. I don't know but I'm missing something here.  Confused


I think Neal Morse's write-up explains well enough why he's eligible.

It's that grey area called Metal Related. 

Which was changed by the admins not that long ago. This was posted about, so you've got no excuse not to know about it:

Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

A word of caution if you're thinking of voting for anything in Metal Related or Non-Metal: not only is only the first of these allowed to be included in an MMA best of vote, but we changed the policy on what goes where this year and a lot of stuff hasn't been moved around yet. If in doubt on anything ask an admin. This change should however allow albums deemed to be of interest to metal fans to be included and should ultimately make the best of votes that bit easier, but right now there's no guarantee that something in Non-Metal shouldn't actually be in Metal Related and eligible and something in Metal Related shouldn't actually be in Non-Metal and ineligible. 

If you had a concern, you should have spoken up. Not moan about it after the event. 

You also had access to the same voting rules as the rest of us that said Metal Related was okay. You did read them didn't you? Tongue

I voted for Morse because it was in the eligible sub-genre. I'm not sure it would have been before the last changes (it's not that metal and I don't think anyone who voted for it would dispute that) though. 

Regarding it's quality, it was in the bottom half of my list, but I still think it's pretty great. Predictable and weak? No, not at all, especially not for him. Easily his strongest for over ten years. My opinion, but evidentially others shared it. 
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Great work on the presentation by the way Paul!
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Originally posted by MorniumGoatahl MorniumGoatahl wrote:

Which was changed by the admins not that long ago. This was posted about, so you've got no excuse not to know about it:


I don't think regular members tend to pay attention to stuff like that, as it mainly effects collabs. I don't expect regular forum users to look at changes made to genres, and not all forum users use the main site much.
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