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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote UMUR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:53am
^Oh hell Iīve put in a list. I canīt say Iīve been very focused on progressive rock/ metal in 2010 though, so there wasnīt that many releases to consider in my case. I even had to include The Final Frontier because I couldnīt think of anything else.
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Nothing wrong with that list at all! Approve
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No itīs more my enthusiasm that isnīt at itīs highestUnhappy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Colt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 7:39am
I assume that means recent events and I'll add you are not the only one by a long distance Unhappy
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote NecronCommander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 5:40pm
Not a bad list at all.  Good work guys.
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Just a thought, should this be stickied?  it is on PA
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Just a thought, should this be stickied?  it is on PA
 
Agreed, thanks Colin.
 
I have, however, amended the thread to an announcement rather than a sticky as I believe it is more important than that.
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My top metal albums of the year, just for the record (if there is another thread where regular members can post their tops, I didn't notice it, sorry):

1. Agalloch - Marrow Of The Spirit
2. Deathspell Omega - Paracletus
3. Enslaved - Axioma Ethica Odini
4. Les Discrets - Septembre et ses derniers pensees
5. East Of The Wall - Ressentiment
6. Intronaut - Valley Of Smoke
7. Periphery - s/t
8. White Walls - Mad Man Circus
9. Ihsahn - After
10. Cloudkicker - Beacons

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Sorry for being a party-pooper but I'm a quite disappointed with this list.
Not that I'd disagree with the quality of the albums as such but ALL of them are PA-metal; there's not one real metal album Ermm



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Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.
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Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.


he is just being stuck up and/or obnoxious
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote J-Man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Feb 2011 at 5:44pm
Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:


 ALL of them are PA-metal; there's not one real metal album Ermm



So metal that is in a prog database is not real metal?
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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:


 ALL of them are PA-metal; there's not one real metal album Ermm



So metal that is in a prog database is not real metal?

WackoWhat he might be trying to say is that in his opinion prog isn't a real metal genre.Wacko


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I'm sure all bonnek was referring to was that pretty much every band on the list were/are on PA.  It just so happens that most of the collabs here are also members at Prog Archives, so the tastes might lean a bit towards the "proggy" metal bands.  As more people who are not on PA take interest in this site and want to apply to be a collab, the list could shift away from this trend.  In a sense, I know what (I think) he means, and agree.  Maybe some grindcore, glam, alternative, etc. will crack the list next year.  I like a good variety.

Then again, just because I am (or someone else is) also a PA member, it doesn't mean they're going to vote for all prog metal albums.  Each collab submitted one list (with equal weight per collab), and several of us included bands that wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in making it on Prog Archives.

To be completely honest, my top 5 included nothing but PA bands, but 2011 could be different. Smile


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Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

I'm sure all bonnek was referring to was that pretty much every band on the list were/are on PA.  It just so happens that most of the collabs here are also members at Prog Archives, so the tastes might lean a bit towards the "proggy" metal bands.  As more people who are not on PA take interest in this site and want to apply to be a collab, the list could shift away from this trend.  In a sense, I know what (I think) he means, and agree.  Maybe some grindcore, glam, alternative, etc. will crack the list next year.  I like a good variety.

Then again, just because I am (or someone else is) also a PA member, it doesn't mean they're going to vote for all prog metal albums.  Each collab submitted one list (with equal weight per collab), and several of us included bands that wouldn't stand a snowball's chance in hell in making it on Prog Archives.

To be completely honest, my top 5 included nothing but PA bands, but 2011 could be different. Smile


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And being a bit obnoxious by putting my statement so black and white of course.
After all this is the metal-me here, not the proggy-mellow-artsy-fartsy-me Evil Smile

I haven't been on MMA since it started and I had hoped it would have cut itself loose from its PA-roots by now, but it will take a bit more time probably.

I think I'll try to do my bit by stopping to copy-in my PA reviews and focus on 'real-metal' ones, though it may be a lot of old-man-metal like Megadeth, Testament, Celtic Frost and so (damn i'm making even more enemies nowOuch)




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Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.


The 1 billion $ question for PMT members!
We could spend the rest of our lives discussing this, but I always put it quite simply like this:

What I teasingly call 'real metal' is:
     - being more metal then the band next door, that is being heavier, sleazier, more aggressive or more evil
     - sounding exactly like any other random metal band.
Prog metal is about
    - adding non-metal elements such as Prog, Jazz, Avant to the metal sound and song structure
    - or sounding exactly like another Prog-metal band who did so.

And of course it's no exact science. Meshuggah is heavier, more aggressive and more evil then anything else but they also add non-metal bits.


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Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

there's not one real metal album Ermm


Explain. Please.


The 1 billion $ question for PMT members!
We could spend the rest of our lives discussing this, but I always put it quite simply like this:

What I teasingly call 'real metal' is:
     - being more metal then the band next door, that is being heavier, sleazier, more aggressive or more evil
     - sounding exactly like any other random metal band.
Prog metal is about
    - adding non-metal elements such as Prog, Jazz, Avant to the metal sound and song structure
    - or sounding exactly like another Prog-metal band who did so.

And of course it's no exact science. Meshuggah is heavier, more aggressive and more evil then anything else but they also add non-metal bits.


So Iron Maiden, Atheist, and Enslaved aren't real metal? Good luck getting that message out to the masses! LOLTongue
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote bonnek Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Feb 2011 at 4:03pm
Iron Maiden isn't prog, lol.
The others prove my point exactly, much more then just metal.

Anyway, I did my bit, if you want to make this place into a Prog Metal Archives, go ahead.


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Originally posted by bonnek bonnek wrote:

Iron Maiden isn't prog, lol.
The others prove my point exactly, much more then just metal.

Anyway, I did my bit, if you want to make this place into a Prog Metal Archives, go ahead.


I don't think that's what the case is, those were just legitimately our favourite metal albums from this year.  I didn't hear any, say, death metal or doom metal from 2010 that I found particularly impressive.  Besides, I can't speak for the other members but the reason I'm in the sludge/post and avant teams is because that's where most of my favourite metal lies.  Those two subgenres are, by your definitions, progressive, and I can't help it if that's what I find most appealing
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I'll try to rephrase again,
I'm not attacking anybody's choices, a couple of those albums would be in my top 10 as well,
I'm just saying that if a metal fan will see this list he'll say, "oh that's a prog metal site, not interested".

Oh and the best metal album of the year was easily Tryptikon's Eparistera Daimones Headbanger
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