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siLLy puPPy ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog/AG Team Joined: 06 Oct 2013 Location: SF, CA, USA Status: Offline Points: 2730 |
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I've become more of an anarchist in recent years. Deep study of metaphysics and the occult has revealed how governmental systems have constructed sophisticated systems of enslavement.
Anarchy is not chaos, it means no masters, no slaves. Cosmic natural laws if obeyed are the only governence we need. All other hierarchical structures are built purely on voluntarism NOT by force Yes, i still vote but realize it's pretty much all rigged for the most part.
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Nightfly ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, D/S/D, T/S/G Teams Joined: 07 Apr 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5017 |
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With the bunch of right wing arseholes we have running our Country at the moment I couldn't vote for anything other than left. Always have been left and don't suppose I'll change.
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PepperSprayP ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Sep 2019 Location: Wiscounsin Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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Lowkey I really do not care the only time that I try to look into these things is if someone ask which most of the time ill give my opinion on that certain subject, but I've never been lenient on one certain side
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DippoMagoo ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Power & Neo, Goth & Symph, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 31 Aug 2014 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 3072 |
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I lean pretty heavily towards the left, and that has always been the case.
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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If you’re not a socialist before you’re twenty-five, you have no heart; if you are a socialist after twenty-five, you have no head. - attributed to many people, but definitely not first said by Churchill!
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Triceratopsoil ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4197 |
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I seem to find myself more conservative every time I think about it
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bartosso ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Location: coffin on Io Status: Offline Points: 1555 |
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As much as I'd love to say I'm centre-left, I'm probably just left
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 2490 |
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Sounds Centrist
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"Before you see the light you must die!!!!!!!!!!" - Slayer
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Stooge ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator/Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Whitby, ON, CAN Status: Offline Points: 5637 |
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I'll say center, which seems like a cop-out or fence-sitting answer, but there are things I am liberal about, and things I'm conservative about. I haven't taken a political compass test in years, but I wouldn't be surprised if it leaned slightly right. If I did one five years ago, I would have leaned more to the left.
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Jan 2013 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 2490 |
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I lean centre-left
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"Before you see the light you must die!!!!!!!!!!" - Slayer
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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I still think a proportional system is the way to go, just not they system we have.
![]() I feel for you with what's happening in Spain at the moment. It's never nice to see any country in that sort of turmoil.
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Sisslith ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Power & Neo, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 03 Sep 2016 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 1154 |
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^ Good luck with that
![]() The proportional system is cancer. In Spain it has established a particracy, and because of that we are where we are... |
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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So... We had an election on 23 September. There was no outright winner. Because of our proportional system, the party which finished THIRD, with 7.5% of the vote, has been farting around deciding which of the two major parties it would go with.
The New Zealand First party is a one man party, which will die with it's leader, but until then, the stupid old fool has been holding the country to ransom while he decided which major party would offer him the biggest bribe. He finally decided tonight to go with the second placed Labour party (lefty, democrat, whatever you like). Immigration is going to be stopped, our economy is going to tank (the dollar dropped already), tax rates are going to go up, and we're going to become a third world country. Been nice knowing you all! (Yes, I voted for the right. ![]() |
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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One of the main reasons I asked this question was because there seems to be the idea in the non-metal mainstream media etc. that metal fans are all alt-right white supremacist nazis, while I've only ever encountered such attitudes in small pockets of people who would have been that way regardless of their musical leanings. Incidents like Phil Anselmo and his white power outburst, NSBM, and people like Varg Vikerness seem to grab a lot of attention, but I'm of the opinion those things are only at the extreme edge of metal, and like this poll is proving, most metal fans are fairly moderate or apathetic. Metal hasn't really had the strong political ties like punk did, or grindcore to a lesser extent, although you can always find political songs if you try.
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aglasshouse ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 12 Jul 2014 Location: GoodAsNew York Status: Offline Points: 943 |
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Center-right, I suppose. Although I usually don't care about politics when it comes to things I enjoy, like metal.
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keefer1970 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jul 2017 Location: New Jersey USA Status: Offline Points: 139 |
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I have never identified with one political party or the other. Some years I vote Republican, some years I vote Democrat. So for purposes of this poll, I chose "confused." :P
Either way, nothing ever changes much. We just trade one doofus in a suit for a new doofus in a newer suit. :D Edited by keefer1970 - 19 Sep 2017 at 12:02pm |
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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I know NZ politics don't feature highly on the world stage, but this has proved to be very true here. It looked like our incumbent National (conservative, centre-right) government was sleepwalking to a 4th term. The Labour party had a former union leader at it's head, and while he may have been very popular among other unionists, he was splintering the party, and their popularity had dropped to a 10 year low. Two other minor parties the Greens (socialist in all but name) and NZ First (populist centre, while veering unexpectedly left AND right at the same time!) were both on the rise, on about 15 and 10 % respectively. Within a week, the Labour party threw out their mouldy old unionist leader and installed a younger, more positive leader, and one of the Green party leaders got caught out for benefit (social welfare) fraud. The Labour party skyrocketed, the Green party crashed (it's not certain they will even make it in to the next parliament) and NZ First started leaking support too. It now looks like we will have a change of government, whereas six weeks ago, it looked like we were in for another three years of the same.
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 6576 |
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That sounds like a socialist position.
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Psydye ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Jan 2013 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 12471 |
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I guess if anything I would consider myself center-left. I don't pay much attention to politics though. I'm torn between being center-left and just being apathetic to it all.
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Bosh66 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Sludge, MC, HC, Post-Metal & Noise Rock Joined: 14 Feb 2013 Location: Bolton, Lancs Status: Offline Points: 25143 |
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Good man
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