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Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

Probably a combination of more competition, mlkpad14, along with PA having the advantage of being the first major archive for prog music on the web.

It's a shame that more PA members don't also make use of this site. For progressive metal music, we likely have a lot more relevant bands here than PA does. PA covers a much wider spectrum of music and therefore will find it harder to have the depth of coverage that a site like MMA will have for metal bands (or JMA has for jazz bands). You're allowed to use them all without being disloyal Wink

We do have a lot of visitors to the site, just not as many active forum posters as we'd like.


That's really a shame. You can't really run polls or discussions if there aren't people to respond to. But you'll probably see me around. :-)
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Probably a combination of more competition, mlkpad14, along with PA having the advantage of being the first major archive for prog music on the web.

It's a shame that more PA members don't also make use of this site. For progressive metal music, we likely have a lot more relevant bands here than PA does. PA covers a much wider spectrum of music and therefore will find it harder to have the depth of coverage that a site like MMA will have for metal bands (or JMA has for jazz bands). You're allowed to use them all without being disloyal Wink

We do have a lot of visitors to the site, just not as many active forum posters as we'd like.

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Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Originally posted by mlkpad14 mlkpad14 wrote:

I've noticed that most of the people on these forums are reviewers and collaborators, which wasn't so true on PA. Are there less people here, or just more reviewers and collaborators?


It's both, there aren't nearly as many active members here than on PA, and most of us are collaborators. There are a few active regular forum users who visit from time to time though. 

Why do you think there are less members?
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Originally posted by mlkpad14 mlkpad14 wrote:

I've noticed that most of the people on these forums are reviewers and collaborators, which wasn't so true on PA. Are there less people here, or just more reviewers and collaborators?


It's both, there aren't nearly as many active members here than on PA, and most of us are collaborators. There are a few active regular forum users who visit from time to time though. 
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Thanks guys!Smile

I've noticed that most of the people on these forums are reviewers and collaborators, which wasn't so true on PA. Are there less people here, or just more reviewers and collaborators?


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Indeed, welcome. Good to see you here.
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Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

Hey there! Yes, MMA and PA are similar because they both run off the Web Wiz Forums system, thus why the forums for both sites look practically identical aside from a color difference. About your account -- you had to make a new one because although PA and MMA run off the same setup, I believe they are run off of different servers. This also holds true for Jazz Music Archives (JMA), our other sister site. Fortunately there's no restrictions for you just copying your user info from PA to here, so you can do that if you want.

Each site/forum is independent. Not sure if they are on the same actual server or not but that's neither here nor there on this matter. If it was one forum connected to three linked sites them that would maybe work but it's not as it's three different communities that just happen to have been founded and are owned by the same people. 

Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

If you're looking for rules/guidelines for using MMA, there's a perfect thread for you.

There are differences between MMA and PA, but they are more prevalent on the main site than on the forums. One big difference is that each album from a band/musician's discography has their own unique subgenre identification, meaning an artist can be under multiple genres whilst on PA they can only be under one. That's the only glaring difference I can really think of, but if my fellow collaborators have any other examples I'm sure they'd be happy to fill you in.

All three sites run the addition of artists pretty differently too. While I've personally never been a collab on PA, I've heard how every artist has to be voted in regardless of sub-genre, which can take a long time. It's of course harder to always agree on what makes something prog than it does metal or jazz though.

We on the other hand mostly allow all collabs to add artists to our sub-genres freely. There are a few that require approval to be gained first though (Alternative, Glam, Hard Rock, Hardcore and Proto) and a couple that are under the admin team's direct control (Metal Related and Non-Metal). 

JMA on the other hand appears to have most of its work done by the two main admins. 

Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

It might also be helpful to point out that the site is currently undergoing some renovations. You may have noticed that currently we have a Google search widget on the site that allows you to search for bands, similar to the one on PA. However, to the best of my knowledge, this is a temporary fixture until the original one is restored (the original is the same as the one on JMA), as we've been experiencing some site problems lately. We are working as best as we can to fix them. Some genres on this site were only introduced very recently and we are still working on going through and writing descriptions for each.

That new search is actually here to stay.

Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

I'm sure you are well-versed about the system on PA, but just in case, I'll give you a very quick rundown on collaborators. The collaborator/admin team are really the guys who run this place, and you can talk to any one of them if you have any burning questions related to the site. The special collaborator team mainly consists of genre aficionados who's job is to maintain and add bands under their allocated genre (I'm under the doom team for example), however if you join a specific genre team you aren't restricted to that one genre and can freely add bands to other genres. (Note: special collaborators are specifcally collaborators who are in charge of specific genres, but some collaborators are just general collaborators who aren't a part of any one genre.) However we don't like to just have a gung-ho nature about adding things, and sometimes consultation is recommended on some more controversial additions. Adding bands in genres under the metal related category in particular should be checked with collaborators of the band's respective field. If you wish to become a collaborator, you can just ask any member of the admin team and they'll discuss it with you. If you are prolific in writing and submitting reviews to the site, you may want to become a metal reviewer. Becoming a metal reviewer gives you a heavier swing towards the weighted average score of an album when you rate/review it. If you wish to learn more, just check out the aforementioned Site Rules and Guidelines thread.

I may have missed a few things, but I'm sure the other collaborators and admins will fill in any gaps in the information I may have given you. Enjoy your stay! Wink

I think you covered everything pretty well Thatcher, but I'll just add that non-collaborator members can always leave suggestions for missing artists to be added here and report any errors and omissions they spot here
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Welcome to MMA, hope you enjoy the site! Clap

I think Thatcher (aglasshouse) covered everything, but if you have any questions feel free to ask any of the current collaborator/admin team.
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Hey there! Yes, MMA and PA are similar because they both run off the Web Wiz Forums system, thus why the forums for both sites look practically identical aside from a color difference. About your account -- you had to make a new one because although PA and MMA run off the same setup, I believe they are run off of different servers. This also holds true for Jazz Music Archives (JMA), our other sister site. Fortunately there's no restrictions for you just copying your user info from PA to here, so you can do that if you want.

If you're looking for rules/guidelines for using MMA, there's a perfect thread for you.

There are differences between MMA and PA, but they are more prevalent on the main site than on the forums. One big difference is that each album from a band/musician's discography has their own unique subgenre identification, meaning an artist can be under multiple genres whilst on PA they can only be under one. That's the only glaring difference I can really think of, but if my fellow collaborators have any other examples I'm sure they'd be happy to fill you in.

It might also be helpful to point out that the site is currently undergoing some renovations. You may have noticed that currently we have a Google search widget on the site that allows you to search for bands, similar to the one on PA. However, to the best of my knowledge, this is a temporary fixture until the original one is restored (the original is the same as the one on JMA), as we've been experiencing some site problems lately. We are working as best as we can to fix them. Some genres on this site were only introduced very recently and we are still working on going through and writing descriptions for each.

I'm sure you are well-versed about the system on PA, but just in case, I'll give you a very quick rundown on collaborators. The collaborator/admin team are really the guys who run this place, and you can talk to any one of them if you have any burning questions related to the site. The special collaborator team mainly consists of genre aficionados who's job is to maintain and add bands under their allocated genre (I'm under the doom team for example), however if you join a specific genre team you aren't restricted to that one genre and can freely add bands to other genres. (Note: special collaborators are specifcally collaborators who are in charge of specific genres, but some collaborators are just general collaborators who aren't a part of any one genre.) However we don't like to just have a gung-ho nature about adding things, and sometimes consultation is recommended on some more controversial additions. Adding bands in genres under the metal related category in particular should be checked with collaborators of the band's respective field. If you wish to become a collaborator, you can just ask any member of the admin team and they'll discuss it with you. If you are prolific in writing and submitting reviews to the site, you may want to become a metal reviewer. Becoming a metal reviewer gives you a heavier swing towards the weighted average score of an album when you rate/review it. If you wish to learn more, just check out the aforementioned Site Rules and Guidelines thread.

I may have missed a few things, but I'm sure the other collaborators and admins will fill in any gaps in the information I may have given you. Enjoy your stay! Wink
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I'm a newbie to this site, but I've been on Prog Archives for a good month or so. I'm just interested in how much this site bares resemblance to PA, and if there're any major differences between MMA and PA besides the obvious difference in genres.

I'm confused as to why I had to make a new account. My account on PA has the same information and settings...

Anyways, please let me know anything I ought to know about MMA and what was the other archives site, with jazz?
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