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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote adg211288 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2016 at 12:13am
Symphonic death metal is a relatively recent development, otherwise I may have suggested including it myself. I'm kinda waiting to see if it becomes a well documented term (in the sense of being a distinct genre) like symphonic black metal before suggesting we add it - since that's pretty much the only reason we decided to include symphonic black when technically you could include many symphonic sub-genre variants like symphonic power metal or symphonic gothic metal, which were never on the table. 

For what it's worth I do also agree on brutal death being here but it's not my sole decision to make. 
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I think we could live without symphonic death metal here. Brutal death metal I'd say is essential.

I already sent this to Chris, but I'll post my pitch for it here as well:

There's evidence that its one of death metal's bigger sub-genres. Just look at RYM's charts for each of them: brutal death has a 48 page chart. Technical death metal has 25. Death n roll has just 5. Only melodic death has a longer chart (85), and those don't count unratred and rarely rated releases. It seems strange that brutal death doesn't get a sub-genre here, but death n roll does.

Of course, quite a bit of brutal death metal can also be tagged as tech death. But there are bands out there who are considered to be just brutal death metal (for most of their albums anyway) who I think deserve to be placed correctly here, such as Suffocation, Hour of Penance, Benighted, Dying Fetus, Aborted and I'm sure many more - those were just the big names from the top of RYM's chart.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 666sharon666 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jul 2016 at 9:13am
I also agree on brutal death metal being added here, for what its worth.
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So ? I add it ? Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote adg211288 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 11:56am
Originally posted by m@x m@x wrote:

So ? I add it ? Wink

Yes, please. I think this will be the last sub-genre we need though. 
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Ok I do it now.
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Cheers Max, while you're here could you take a look at the Admin threads requiring M@X involvement forum in the AZ please, there's a couple of new issues that have been noticed. 
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Excellent, thank you!
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Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

Mixing and matching tagging may require a pretty extensive reworking of the site I guess and throws up its own challenges around grouping similar styled bands and accuracy. We may well end up with additional subs at some point but each one does slow down and complicate adding bands to the site. Don't underestimate how much work we still have outstanding to add tens of thousands of missing bands and also to clean up and properly site the artists we do have. Just sorting what we do have at the rate we're going is going to take a long time without spending hours isolating what is symphonic death or whatever other (valid) category we add.



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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bosh66 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jul 2016 at 9:24am
Heavy metal works for me. It's all just maximum rhythm and blues anyway Big smile

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 666sharon666 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 2016 at 1:32pm
I'm going to post this here so its got a chance of being seen this time:

I would like to propose that Traditional Heavy Metal be renamed to just Heavy Metal.

My reasoning is that having the 'traditional' in the name makes it sound like the sub-genre can only be used for genuine traditional metal bands and not modern heavy metal bands, which are essentially an evolved form of the same thing (AKA metal bands who don't fit into any other sub-genre), something which is true of most if not all metal genres.

To compare, think about how people go on about old school death or thrash metal. Yet no one bats a eye calling modern sounding death and thrash bands death and thrash still. Likewise modern heavy metal (some artists get called melodic metal) is still heavy metal.

Therefore I firmly believe the sub-genre should be renamed to reflect this.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote siLLy puPPy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jul 2016 at 6:16pm
^ i'm not against that. i don't like the "trad" tag but i actually prefer "classic 80s metal sound" or something. just "heavy metal" does sound "classic" though. good suggestion
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Yeah, I've always just called it classic metal. It would look better and make more sense if the "trad" was dropped.
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Heavy Metal would make sense to me. Agreed.
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I agree too.
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