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    Posted: 12 Mar 2016 at 9:54am
It's strange how I come across articles from time to time telling you to throw all your CD's out,they're obsolete, yet a quick look on Amazon or ebay at out of print CD's (including ones you wouldn't think are particularly rare) and you'll see sellers asking crazy sums of money for them like £70 for example. Whether they ever sell them I couldn't say.

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Yeah I've seen this sort of thing a couple of times on British shows too...yes there was a time when I did watch things like The X Factor. Embarrassed Needless to say the judges were not impressed. They only want commercial throwaway pop that can make them a quick profit and then dump the artist after the contract they won is up (I know a few UK talent show winners have done well but a lot haven't). Then the cycle repeats. And the general public laps it up. Which of course comes back around to my earlier comments about the mainstream trying to kill off the CD. After all if they're just going to throw it away next clear out why bother having the expense of pressing physical copies?

They aren't dead yet in the mainstream of course, but I do wonder how long it is before supermarkets knock even the chart wall on the head and launch their own download services (since you know, supermarkets always seem to want to muscle in on other businesses). 
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^^ Seen that sort of thing before.

This girl did the same. She ended up joining the band Eths. I suspect this guy's probably hoping for a similar outcome.



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Originally posted by Bosh66 Bosh66 wrote:

"I'll have to play them some Nile one day and see the reaction" - I've tried that (or similar) with folk and they just screw their faces up and respond with "can't believe you listen to that shit / that's not music / I can't understand what they're saying / give me Robbie Williams any day ...."

Used to find it frustrating as I know some of the stuff I have would blow them away if they knew how to listen to it, but I've given up. I now take pride in being the freak who listens to that shit ;-)

Kinda reminds me of a video I saw yesterday:

http://metalhammer.teamrock.com/features/2016-02-23/watch-this-metalhead-cover-suicide-silence-on-romania-s-got-talent
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"I'll have to play them some Nile one day and see the reaction" - I've tried that (or similar) with folk and they just screw their faces up and respond with "can't believe you listen to that shit / that's not music / I can't understand what they're saying / give me Robbie Williams any day ...."

Used to find it frustrating as I know some of the stuff I have would blow them away if they knew how to listen to it, but I've given up. I now take pride in being the freak who listens to that shit ;-)

And back on topic, I still buy shed loads of CDs.


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I still buy CDs. I only buy digital releases if I can't find them on CD.
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Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

I have a nice little radio in my room that I bought this year that is now my main CD player. It actually has a tape deck too, not that I have any tapes aside from an old Jasper Carrot comedy one that I think came free with something my parents bought donkeys years ago. I also have my old Sony Walkman but I don't use that so much since I got the radio. Before the new car most of my CD's were played that way. I used the digital copies on my PC a lot for random playing as well, but I expect because of the new car most of my listening will be digital based now. Won't stop be adding more CD's to my collection though. 

I'm a big fan of the CD (I guess I came along a bit too late to have any real appreciation for vinyl - I own one Foo Fighters 7" which I've never actually listened to). I don't consider them dead yet despite mainstream efforts to hammer the final nail in the coffin. Real music fans will always have an appreciation for physical media (not saying that anyone who does go digital only isn't a real music fan, so read on before you explode at me). The trouble is people who listen exclusively to mainstream music IMO are not music fans, but trend followers. The sort of people who rave about whoever is in the charts at that moment being oh so good but has forgotten all about them five minutes later when the next five minute famer comes along. You can see the evidence of this if you look through the CD's in any second hand shop. So based on that it is no wonder why the major labels are trying to kill the CD. Metal labels though I think will continue to support them. Vinyl too. 

There's a lot of truth in what you say. The group of friends my wife and I have who we met through my wife aren't fans of any music apart from the usual top 30 rubbish and I doubt any of them buy a single Cd or even pay for a download all year. They're MP3 files will be made up of low quality free downloads but to them music not that important so fair enough. They're always trying to get us to go to crappy boy band tributes with backing tapes and can't get their head around what I listen to...lol. "So do you like Status Quo and Meatloaf?" is a typical question I got asked by them being their idea of metal. I'll have to play them some Nile one day and see the reaction or better still get them to a good metal gig.
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Originally posted by TheHeavyMetalCat TheHeavyMetalCat wrote:

CD's? Make a comeback? Have they gone somewhere?

They're still around of course but sales have been in decline for quite a few years now. It'll be interesting to see where they bottom out.
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CD's? Make a comeback? Have they gone somewhere?
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Not tried my mp3 in the new car, but the USB actually works a treat (no cable required). It's just loading the damn thing that's a pain. 
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Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

most cars still come with cd players

Not around here they don't. 

Only got a USB port in our new car. Pain in the arse to get prepped for. 

Same here, so does my work car. Had to transfer some music to an MP3 player especially for the car. Don't know if I have a dodgy cable but half the time I go over the bump in the road it switches back to the radio and I lose my connection. It's a right pain in the arse, give me a Cd player any day!
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I have a nice little radio in my room that I bought this year that is now my main CD player. It actually has a tape deck too, not that I have any tapes aside from an old Jasper Carrot comedy one that I think came free with something my parents bought donkeys years ago. I also have my old Sony Walkman but I don't use that so much since I got the radio. Before the new car most of my CD's were played that way. I used the digital copies on my PC a lot for random playing as well, but I expect because of the new car most of my listening will be digital based now. Won't stop be adding more CD's to my collection though. 

I'm a big fan of the CD (I guess I came along a bit too late to have any real appreciation for vinyl - I own one Foo Fighters 7" which I've never actually listened to). I don't consider them dead yet despite mainstream efforts to hammer the final nail in the coffin. Real music fans will always have an appreciation for physical media (not saying that anyone who does go digital only isn't a real music fan, so read on before you explode at me). The trouble is people who listen exclusively to mainstream music IMO are not music fans, but trend followers. The sort of people who rave about whoever is in the charts at that moment being oh so good but has forgotten all about them five minutes later when the next five minute famer comes along. You can see the evidence of this if you look through the CD's in any second hand shop. So based on that it is no wonder why the major labels are trying to kill the CD. Metal labels though I think will continue to support them. Vinyl too. 
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

most cars still come with cd players

Not around here they don't. 

Only got a USB port in our new car. Pain in the arse to get prepped for. 
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I still buy CD's. It's a bit daft, but I have around 2,400 and so am a "collector". With that said, I get one, listen to it, burn it to my harddrive, and then never listen to it again. It's pointless, but I have OCD about collecting stuff so whatever. 
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CD players aren't being made anymore???
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Interesting replies guys. I think you'll always be able to buy a Cd player, even if sales dropped significantly lower than at present, the same way you could still buy a record deck when vinyl sales were at rock bottom.

They'll always be people who want a hard copy I think and not everyone will want vinyl. I like it, even though some of these current releases have 4 shortish sides to make a double album which is a bit inconvenient. At least with a Cd you can have an hour or so of uninterupted music with good sound quality.
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cds are lossless unlike basically any other physical medium for music, so they will always sell for that reason

most cars still come with cd players
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Second hand CDs rock. I've never had a truly fucked one yet, although I have got a bootleg live Slayer album which won't play all the way through, but I bought that new. Serves me right for buying a bootleg!
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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by Vim Fuego Vim Fuego wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

No, they don´t have the charm of vinyls, and are too similar to more modern digital formats to compete.

Well, you can't stick many of the modern digital formats on a shelf to show off your collection.Wink
 
I guess I just never liked the CD format, and won´t miss it one bit. It´s a shame I have so many CDs that at some point in the future can´t be played anymore, as a consequence of CD players not being produced anymore, but in the great Whole I don´t see it as a huge issue. But on the other hand I´ve actually started purchasing CD players and storing them, to make sure I have something to play my CDs on when my current machine dies Tongue.


I think you are paranoid about this! CDs will NEVER go away just like LPs never went away. The question here is will there be a comeback and i don't think so either but at the same time they are cheap to produce and there are plenty of collectors like myself who want the physical items. Maybe it will be destined as a niche market only but one that will never go away IMHO. Likewise CD players are incorporated into every DVD, Blue Ray and Play Station video game councils. Since the round disc is a ubiquitous form of media i can't foresee it ever totally going away. There are too many things to go wrong with a purely electronic media format and that is why a hard physical copy will always be desirable. 

One way CDs are alive and viable here in the SF Bay Area is by the many used music stores that we still have. One can purchase a handful of used CDs and then return them within 7 days for a 70% refund. In effect it is a rental system where one can rip all the music to a hard drive and then return the items.

Also the fact that there are constantly reissues that are of much better quality than the original issues and the constant rereleases of anniversay issues etc will guarantee the format will at least be alive for some time. Of course there could always be a revolutionary technological breakthrough that renders them a thing of the past, but even so there are always niche markets that keep dinosaur technologies alive at some small level. CDs were so huge as a format that i think they will survive. But really who knows
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