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    Posted: 07 Jun 2011 at 7:33pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by andyman1125 andyman1125 wrote:

My religion teacher once told me if I was pro-choice I was pro-abortion. I lol'd.


I'm against abortion from a moral standpoint, but I tend to think it's something that should be legal. Smile

That's like saying "if you support the Westboro Baptist Church's protection under the first ammendment, you support homophobia!". I've been told that before too. LOL


Keep it safe, legal, and rare is what I currently like to go with!
Despite my jumbly feelings..in the end I just couldn't say "make it illegal"

Oh god did someone REALLY say that? (And mean it)

I do find it so sad how most of our fellow Americans are quick to throw freedom of speech around, but only seem to apply it to themselves/can't realize it has be all or nothing. "WBC is fucked up, but unless they physically harm someone they can't be stopped"
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Originally posted by andyman1125 andyman1125 wrote:

My religion teacher once told me if I was pro-choice I was pro-abortion. I lol'd.


I'm against abortion from a moral standpoint, but I tend to think it's something that should be legal. Smile

That's like saying "if you support the Westboro Baptist Church's protection under the first ammendment, you support homophobia!". I've been told that before too. LOL
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My religion teacher once told me if I was pro-choice I was pro-abortion. I lol'd.
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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by The Angry Scotsman The Angry Scotsman wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Oh sh-

I'm not even touching this.


Might as well, this has been 9000X cleaner, more respectful and sane than anything on PA.

And metal heads are supposed to be the closed minded stupid onesLOL


I can only imagine where a thread like this would go on PA.... TongueLOL


Check the libertarian thread. You can find some real winners in there. Last I saw they were talking abortion there.
Ironically enough the usual insane ones are pretty sane LOL

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Originally posted by The Angry Scotsman The Angry Scotsman wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Oh sh-

I'm not even touching this.


Might as well, this has been 9000X cleaner, more respectful and sane than anything on PA.

And metal heads are supposed to be the closed minded stupid onesLOL


I can only imagine where a thread like this would go on PA.... TongueLOL
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Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Oh sh-

I'm not even touching this.


Might as well, this has been 9000X cleaner, more respectful and sane than anything on PA.

And metal heads are supposed to be the closed minded stupid onesLOL


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Oh sh-

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Pro choice.

A girl I was with during my 20's had three abortions. Basically it was her choice and well it should be. My input, for what is was worth was to have the abortions.
 
The third time she let it go late into the pregnancy(I never did find out the reason why) and had to go over to Vancouver to have the procedure done.
 
On my way over there(via ferry) I passed a billboard about abortion and then when I was on the ferry a couple was talking about it. This lead me to very heavy heart.
 
I arrived at the clinic only to find protesters outside. Man oh man, for some reason and even until this day I can't come up with a reason why I was so friggin' scarred. It took everything I had to walk through that line into the clinic and also knowing that there her mom was there also(wasn't the reason I was terrified, she was a great lady).
 
Of course in hindsight it was the right thing to do.


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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

There�s no need to bring a new life into this world if you are not able to take care of it. We have enough homeless, starving kids without parents or with parents that are not able to provide them with love and care in this world already. People against abortion usually have this standpoint out of a religious belief, but IMO that doesn�t qualify as a good reason. We are animals, and just because we have a more evolved brain than most animals do, we shouldn�t let morals or religious bogus get in the way of rational acts. If you can�t take care of your child for whatever reason, you shouldn�t have it!
 
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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

There�s no need to bring a new life into this world if you are not able to take care of it. We have enough homeless, starving kids without parents or with parents that are not able to provide them with love and care in this world already. People against abortion usually have this standpoint out of a religious belief, but IMO that doesn�t qualify as a good reason. We are animals, and just because we have a more evolved brain than most animals do, we shouldn�t let morals or religious bogus get in the way of rational acts. If you can�t take care of your child for whatever reason, you shouldn�t have it!
 
My opinion of courseSmile.


I'm just trying to play devil's advocate here (Evil Smile), but why is abortion the only answer in that scenario? Of course, I agree that starving children is a huge problem... but is the best solution then to kill the fetus? I'm still somewhat unsure of my stance on this issue, but I think getting an abortion for that reason alone is immoral.

If abortion actually is murder (which I'm not completely sure if it is or isn't Smile) then it should be treated as such. Should we kill starving children because they're going hungry? And if not, why is acceptable before birth?

Again, this isn't necessarily my position - I'm just playing devil's advocate. Evil SmileBig smile
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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

  should I not care about murder because it's none of my business?


Yep pretty much.  I live in this year's murder capital of Canada and yet as long as they don't shoot me I can't be arsed.


So you don't care about law enforcement then?
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It is a sticky wicket, I also want to say as a man I kind of have to be pro choice because it's not even mine to make.
Unless I was in the unfortunate situation of  having my input asked.
It's just so complicated.
Stupid teen going around having sex because they can just abort it...a married couple who happened to have an accident (happens we know) but with jobs, a house, etc a young couple who had an accident and don't have the means to support one.

ugh...yeah my official opinion is still I have absolutely no fucking clue.

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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

  should I not care about murder because it's none of my business?


Yep pretty much.  I live in this year's murder capital of Canada and yet as long as they don't shoot me I can't be arsed.


So you don't care about law enforcement then?
 
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^ You're even more of a libertarian than I am! LOL
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

  should I not care about murder because it's none of my business?


Yep pretty much.  I live in this year's murder capital of Canada and yet as long as they don't shoot me I can't be arsed.


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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

There�s no need to bring a new life into this world if you are not able to take care of it. We have enough homeless, starving kids without parents or with parents that are not able to provide them with love and care in this world already. People against abortion usually have this standpoint out of a religious belief, but IMO that doesn�t qualify as a good reason. We are animals, and just because we have a more evolved brain than most animals do, we shouldn�t let morals or religious bogus get in the way of rational acts. If you can�t take care of your child for whatever reason, you shouldn�t have it!
 
My opinion of courseSmile.


You know the entire religious vs. secular debate when it comes to abortion really baffles me. LOL

Nowhere in the Bible does it even reference abortion... it seems odd to me that almost all Christians are opposed to abortion when this opposition isn't obtained through their religious text.
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Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

  should I not care about murder because it's none of my business?


Yep pretty much.  I live in this year's murder capital of Canada and yet as long as they don't shoot me I can't be arsed.
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Originally posted by SKwid SKwid wrote:

honestly, i think that what people do to themselves or their unborn children is their business, and i really don't give a fuck about other peoples business and i don't see why other people do. 

im neither pro-life or pro-choice, im pro-WhoTheFuckCares, because i certainly dont 


I don't completely disagree with you (actually I do sorta agree), but under this same topic, should I not care about murder because it's none of my business? I'm playing the devil's advocate here, but I'm just wondering what your insight is here.
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honestly, i think that what people do to themselves or their unborn children is their business, and i really don't give a fuck about other peoples business and i don't see why other people do. 

im neither pro-life or pro-choice, im pro-WhoTheFuckCares, because i certainly dont 


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