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Topic: Meshuggah vs Gojira
Posted By: Balthamel
Subject: Meshuggah vs Gojira
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 11:28am
Im not fond of nether or other becouse that leads the focus away from the important band in the poll
 
which tech, extreme, metal...................... the one who is created it or the one who are leading it futher



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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 11:38am
Meshuggah by a long shot. I have respect for Gojira but Meshuggah are something very special IMO. Also the one time I saw Gojira live they were boring like hell. Very uninspired performance. My friends lived it though so it might be me being too critical of their performance. Meshuggah on the other hand blew me away when I saw them live. One of my greatest ever live experiences.

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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 12:04pm

I have seen both live myself (in Denmark, Roskilde ) not on the same year 2009 and 2010, Meshuggah at Arena which was great (a bit to early for that kind of music 14:00), and the sound was to low, and the soundenginere forgott that they were TWO guitatists so the guitarsound was abit off. but other then that quite awesome concert with great energy and intencety, and a day to remember

I saw Gojira at Odeon or Astoria, don't remember but that was good and intimate concert and their drummer is realy incredible, he dont look like an awesome drummer but damn, he hav some chops
 
both bands impressed me, and for now can't pick one favorte
 


Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 3:19pm
I have respect for Gojira, but I have From Mars to Sirius and to be honest it seems like it plods around too much for my taste. They have the chops for sure.

I will probably always say Meshuggah. They have the ability and the innovation, which is pretty much a good enough reason alone. They sound significantly better than most of the "djent" scene that's around today still, I honestly don't think many bands have improved upon their idea.

I wouldn't really say Gojira's taking Meshuggah's ideas farther. Sure, they're a heavy thrash band with tons of time signature changes and stuff, but they don't really go on Meshuggah's take of it. Overall the bands have a significantly different vibe from each other. In other words, Gojira may be bringing the technical metal scene further, just not the polyrhythmic 'djent' scene Meshuggah started.


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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 3:46pm
Meshuggah, obviously, but Gojira isn't a bad band.

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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2010 at 10:44pm
Tomas Haake wins this poll for Meshuggah. My father hates Meshuggah, but thinks Haake is ridiculously awesome. That's proof enough for me.

I love that non-metalheads give Meshuggah shit for being "noise and screams" but they uttertly can't comprehend how awesome the band is.

Oh, and I voted both, because really, Gojira is awesome as well.


Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2010 at 2:04am
I don't think Gojita got the attention they deserve, they use oftehn unconventional instruments in metal like digeridoo, extreme riffs, totaly extreme and probably the most exrtreme French band (after Magma), pluss the members gott brains and they love our Nature and are MiIjau-activists,


Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2010 at 2:14am
When I need a total Metal assault.............Its Meshuggah for me. Crazy stuff.
 
The Way of All Flesh by Gojira  which I have is a damn fine album Thumbs Up
 
Gotta get The Live one recently out. All the fans say it is great. ( I say fans because I find if they aren't fans......well)LOL


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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 6:20am
hmm m m m m . . .

I'm looking at my Icon now who wouldOFCOURSEITSTHEMESHUGGAHNERS! LOL

I really like Gojira though, but have yet to see them live.  Been a fan of the Meshuggahners
since Destroy Erase Improve and did not see them until Last Year with Cynic and The
Faceless
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Not since Neil Peart, Portnoy and Herb Alexander was I in shear awe to see Sean Rienert and
Tomas Haak play.  2 sides of a coin, Sean with such power and "Joy" as he sang along with
songs just mouthing the words while playing like a Fusion master! Clap
And Haak . . . what Power and abilities to play so fluidly! Hagstrom and Thordendal are the
masters of the Chugs from Hell and Thordendals wild fusionesque' Solos bring freshair to the
Carnage!  Dick L�vgren is a bassist supreme and he is loud and clear Live as well.
. . . I'm scared of Jens Kidman . . . That Swedish Nut was looking right at me and I think he
wanted me to light myself on fire Cry.
He can SCREAM like a A-10 Warthog firing its Vulcan Canon at T-38 Soviet Tanks!  It would be
nice if he changed his "styles" of voice like on "None", but he was made to destroy with his
throat.
Here . . . tear out your Layranx, thanks.


Heres 2 more Vidz for the uninitiated, they dont take themselves seriously too so thats always
nice (but their fans at their Forum, man those guys are @ssh0les!).

Let the Slamming of your Head commense!!!!!!


Watch for the SCREAMING from Jens, at Sessions for "The Aztec 2 Step" from
the NONE Ep:


. . . That should make you go Confused  or  Rawks


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 7:03am
Yeah I remember that Movie. Pretty bad humour and some disgusting scenes too as far as I remember. But the two videos above!!!!!!! WOWOOWWOW great stuff.

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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2010 at 7:47am
You mean the Pissing? LOL
But hey, if you can find "everyday things to do" while Headbanging . . . why not LOL .

. . . I'll hose down a Cow! Rawks

Actually, their humour is VERY much "me" Embarrassed . . . now I'll go off to rush blood to my face
enough to make a blood vessal burst Angry *pop!*


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Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2010 at 3:42pm
meshuggah - overall, they have more interesting stuff


Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2011 at 9:53am
Meshuggah for sure!!!


Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 9:53am
bump

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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 10:06am
Yeah, I'm jumping on board with Meshuggah as well.  Mainly because most of their stuff is better to listen to compared to the bad experience I had with Gojira's The Link on one of my discog runs.  Gojira's only necessary album is Terra Incognita.
 
Moral: If a band is going to make technical sounding music, they shouldn't do it with shitty production.  That's why I also don't like Gorgut's Obscura.


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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 10:19am
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Yeah, I'm jumping on board with Meshuggah as well.  Mainly because most of their stuff is better to listen to compared to the bad experience I had with Gojira's The Link on one of my discog runs.  Gojira's only necessary album is Terra Incognita.
 
Moral: If a band is going to make technical sounding music, they shouldn't do it with shitty production.  That's why I also don't like Gorgut's Obscura.


I think that Obscura has good production.


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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 11:33am
Compared to Terra Incognita or a Necrophagist album, the production on Obscura sucks.

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Posted By: Prog Geo
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2011 at 11:43am
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Compared to Terra Incognita or a Necrophagist album, the production on Obscura sucks.


Ok. Maybe you're right. But Obscura wins the other two as an album. For me it's more authentic.


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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 4:30am
Funny,

I was just listening to that Goreguts album (A Promo Sleeve Copy I got when I worked at Tower Records
those many years ago) just last week.
Actually, its not that the Production was bad, it seems that they wanted to have that album sound REALLY
"Raw", everything is clear, but their is no reverb to the vocals (Cookies), its pure raw Vox.  And the Drums
are mic'd raw as well, it almost has a mono-tone sound but if you listen on headphones you can hear
the depth of the room . . . its really weird.
Its actually why I cant listen to it very often Tongue.
(At 1st I thought you were saying the band "Obscura" was bad! I was like . . . WAIT A MINUTE!!! LOL - named
apparently after the Goreguts album).



Dont mean to change the Topic subject of this thread but, I want to know why "Enslaved" cant seem to
Produce/Engineer their albums to sound good?  Though the last 2 are better, but I think they need to
call Andy Sneap or Steve Wilson Wink.





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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 9:46am
ive listened to both bands and i prefer meshuggah, hands down 

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2011 at 3:14pm
Obscura doesn't have bad production, it has different production.  I can understand why people used to the overproduced norm of the metal industry these days wouldn't like it, but that doesn't mean it is poor quality.  I'd rather the vocals be raw than reverb-laden, personally.

Oh, and I voted Meshuggah.


Posted By: skipperdipper
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 10:49pm
 lol more people voted meshuggah??? I love meshuggah and all, i think there amazing, but Gojira is above all. especially live. Gojira is way to underrated.


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 09 Oct 2012 at 11:32pm
I agree that Gojira are killer live and that they are a great band, but in general I wouldn�t call them underrated. Meshuggah to my ears are something very special though. They are the forefathers of the highly technical/rythmic style they play and hundreds are inspired by them and play like them.

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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2012 at 3:20pm
meshuggah is my pick,

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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2012 at 3:30pm
Meshuggah is bad.

Gojira are overrated but not as bad so they get my vote.


Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2012 at 5:04pm
Nothing Meshuggah has done has ever resonated with me.  Their music just goes in one ear and out the other.  I haven't heard much of Gojira but I liked what I did, so I voted for them.


Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2012 at 2:36pm
I voted for Gojira as I like their music and also their lyrical themes and think the latest album is excellent. Although I can see the merit in Mushuggah as innovators and as superb musicians I just can't seem to get into 'djent'.


Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2015 at 4:08pm


Gojira


Posted By: Dobbie03
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2015 at 4:09pm
Meshuggah, Gojira aren't even comparable.

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 1:48am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Meshuggah by a long shot. I have respect for Gojira but Meshuggah are something very special IMO. Also the one time I saw Gojira live they were boring like hell. Very uninspired performance. My friends lived it though so it might be me being too critical of their performance. Meshuggah on the other hand blew me away when I saw them live. One of my greatest ever live experiences.
 
I´m still voting Meshuggah as I did in my post 5 years ago. I´ve changed my mind about Gojira though after seing them live Again where they kicked ass. I guess my first experience seing them live was either an off day for them or for me.


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Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 2:03am
Gojira. I can't listen to Meshuggah without shouting at the music to make up it's fucking mind what it actually wants to do!


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2015 at 2:05am
^LOL Yeah Meshuggah has that effect on some people. They are very much an aquired taste and there´s really no middle ground. Either you love them or you can´t stand them. I used to belong in the latter camp, but after seing them live I heard some qualities that I found intriguing and went back to listen to their albums, and somehow everything just clicked, and I´ve been quite a big fan since. It´s not often you start out by not liking an artist for 15 years, and then suddenly get convinced that their music is great, but that´s exactly what happened to me LOL.

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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2015 at 10:25am
I do like both but Meshuggah have the edge for me. 


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 12:36pm
I like Gojira, but Meshuggah for me. "Destroy Erase Improve" is one of the best tech thrash/groove albums I've ever heard.

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Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 6:21pm
Meshuggah is sort of that band. You know? Those bands.

One of the "hard to hate" ones. 


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 6:47pm
Meshuggah. They are definately an acquired taste but one that i have acquired. Gojira is an interesting band too but don't quite achieve the same uniqueness

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