Deathspell Omega: "Paracletus"
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Topic: Deathspell Omega: "Paracletus"
Posted By: Vehemency
Subject: Deathspell Omega: "Paracletus"
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 12:34am
 Deathspell Omega: Paracletus, the last record of the trilogy, will be released November 8th in Europe - NoEvDia Season of Mist is proud to welcome kult French black metallers DEATHSPELL OMEGA to the North American roster! On next November 9, the mysterious, meta-physical, black metal omega lords will unleash their fifth album, "Paracletus". Initially emitting raw, traditional black metal, this enigmatic entity experimented and evolved into a more technical, eviscerating evil. Outside of the music, very little is known about its member's beliefs and ideology. What is certain however is the return of the most revered kult band in the world! More details on the album soon ... |
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:32am
Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 10:55am
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Never liked the band. Their production is awful, what makes them sound like just a mass of sound most of times. If they solved that problem, without sounding as gay as Dimmu Borgir, then i could give it another try. -------------   
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:05pm
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Have you listened to every release by the band? They have developed their sound quite a bit over the years. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:13pm
Not every release, just their latest album.  That is actually my greatest problem with black mtal, the production. I can barely listen to Negura Bunget for the same reason. I mean, come on those are CDs, not dusty cassetes or LPs. Bands that solved this problem, such as Ansur and Enslaved, are among my favorite.  -------------
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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:19pm
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And I thought that Fas had professional and polished (not in bad way) sound, ha! Tastes really differ. Very eager to hear this new album. Will be interesting to hear to which direction they are going now, they are developing on each release. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:23pm
Really? I mean, really really? Wow man, just wow.  EDIT: I see you really like Burzum huh? Another band I just can't listen to. But I know why. Varg actually made an effor to make eferything sound bad: played all albums with the cheapest guitars and strings he could find, used some old out of tune drums and mixed and produced the albums in just one day with the guy that worked at the studios he recorded his albums. Oh, and he recorded everything in one day. One day for each album. Withh Belus he had a bit more of concern about the final product and spent a week recording the thing, as far as I know. IMO this is just plain lazyness. The musc sounds horrible, muffled and muddy, you can't listen to the instruments and vocals propperly, just a mass of noise. And look, I really like death metal and grindcore, to some extend, and the bands, despite being loud and everything, do try to sound as good as possible (being Chuck Schuldiner one great example of that). -------------
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Vehemency wrote:Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:35pm
 I also revere tapes and vinyls, buying them both as often as CDs. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:39pm
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Tapes aren't all that bad, but vinyls I do try and avoid them whenever I can. PS: read my other post. -------------
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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 1:59pm
In my opinion, true art doesn't ask for polished sounds and studios that are rented for 2 months to work on little details 24/7. Surely it's possible to create fantastic albums like that too (after all I love many very detailed prog records), but I can get musical satisfaction from much simplier things. THE thing with bands like Burzum is that they sound so honest and simple, the natural atmosphere is phenomenal on "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" and "Filosofem". Quite often they aren't real "musicians". They just have a vision, they record it on the go, and release it with all the little flaws in there, and I don't really care. At best, it only enhances the atmosphere. I think Burzum albums are rather "clear" yet underground surely. Filosofem is a noisy record, but even there I can hear the instruments and vocals very well. A mass of noise is okay to me, I do listen to the noise genre too! Of course, bad production CAN be just pure lazyness. But I don't really mind if the creator has been lazy or what if I enjoy the music. After all that's the most important thing. This post might be a little incoherent, sorry about that, but I can discuss this even more. :-) |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:08pm
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I�m often but not always put off by "bad" productions but I agree that some lo-fi productions really enhance the atmosphere of the music. The problem with lo-fi productions is that if you don�t enjoy the music the lo-fi sound is pretty sure to make your listening experience even worse. At least that�s the case for me.
Some polished productions are really bad too though. Some of them have a tendency to take all power out of the music and that�s just not very "metal" now is it?
Personally I do have a tendency to forgive the latter more than the former though. But that�s just me. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:24pm
I know exactly what you mean. However, I do think that, on this day and age, it does not hurt to give some attention to production. The process isn't as expensive as it was 20 years ago and people can safely do home recordings with great quality with relatively little investment. If one do uses a recording studio, why not make the full thing? There is an artists from my hometown which does exactly that. He has his own home "studio" (it's just a place for him to play his instruments) and record stuff over proffesional studios. And I am pretty sure things in Brasil are way more expensive than in Finno-Scania. Varg said that the amount of money he spent recording the albums was under a thousand dollars and that the amount of money he killed Euronymous for was aproximately the minimum wage per month at Noway at the time. These things aren't so expensive at all (if you have a job, of course). My point is, the music can sound natural without being muddy or artificially clear. People that aren't professional musicians can record things by impulse without muffling their sound. The final product can be as good as any big record company release without spending thousands upon thousands of dollars. I do know that it is more a question of personal taste, but IMO the main reason why BM bands don't make it big, like Swede DM bands for example, is that they make such an effort to "sound" underground or underproduced. There is also the subject they bring on their songs, but come on, Freddie Goes to Hollywood had explicid homosexual themes on their songs and most people didn't give a damn for it at the time. They just cared about the music. Same with Lady Gaga. And I love discussing this.  -------------
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:26pm
Same with me. Right on Jonas!  -------------
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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 2:45pm
IMO one of the things in black metal is that there is no absolute need to sound even partially professional. This is indeed why black metal will never reach big fame, and I see no reason for it to reach it. I also see absolutely no reason why e.g. Burzum albums should be more professionally produced (/ recorded) when it's already golden to my perverted ears, ears that are accustomed to unprofessional sound and only love if the music is filthy. It's totally up to the listener, indeed. I don't think that VERY many black metal acts consciously record as bad as possible (albums like Filosofem are different, Varg indeed has said he basically used the worst instruments he could find). I know black metal musicians (okay, that might be a bad term) who just enjoy to rely on their 20-year-old tape recorders and don't want to expand the productional values any further - because there's no need, they are where they want to be, and they have their little listener base who think like-wise. I'm a bit slow to respond, eating and text messaging the same time. I'm also bad at arguing and forming my thoughts into words, really. Edit: And just to add this: I do understand your view too CCVP, at least I think I do, so I'm not trying to turn you into a BM lover or anything. |
Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 4:32pm
Thanks Vehemcy for the announcement. I have never even heard the band but with the differing opinions looks like I will soon. ------------- Matt |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 4:37pm
ahahaha, you understand it quite well actually. Better than most black metal fans I have ever run into, believe it or not!  -------------
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Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 4:37pm
We've went somewhat off-topic here for a while, heh, but it's great to get some real discussion. Good that it got you interested!
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 4:40pm
Don't need to tell me that again, man. It is good to discuss MUSIC in a MUSIC forum for a change. Jeez, that Theist vs Atheis thread is making me crazy. -------------
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Posted By: Matt
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 4:53pm
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2010 at 5:08pm
Most definitely. -------------
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2010 at 3:05pm
May I suggest starting with the K�n�se EP. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2010 at 10:03am
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Short samples from each track: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Paracletus/dp/B0047HJD1Y - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Paracletus/dp/B0047HJD1Y One whole song streamable from e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIPSqcGj--I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIPSqcGj--I Sounds like pretty much in the vein of Fas. Won't comment more than that, we'll see better after the whole album is out. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2010 at 3:42am
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Chaotic and adventurous. I can�t wait. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Vehemency
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2010 at 9:05am
| Googling "deathspell omega paracletus" gives this as the second result. No wonder how this thread has so many views and when you check out the active user list there's almost always someone viewing this topic, heh. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 26 Oct 2010 at 10:23am
 Now that�s how we capture the attention of people. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2010 at 6:36am
Who could wonder that DEATHspell could give life?  -------------
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2010 at 2:15pm
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I�ve pre-ordered Paracletus.
Unfortunately: Delivery estimate: December 17, 2010 - January 6, 2011  ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2010 at 2:38pm
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Ok now I�m a bit pissed. Look what I just received:
Deathspell Omega "Paracletus"
Estimated arrival date: February 07 2011 - March 17 2011 We apologize for the inconvenience caused by this delay. You got to be fuckin� kiddin� me!!! ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2010 at 2:51pm
| i've been waiting for this album for some time, but must i say that the waiting paid of; it's just mind-blowing - i've been listening to it for a week now and i can't get enough of it |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2010 at 3:31pm
I�m sure I�ll be enjoying the album too. When I receive it in 4 months!!!! ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2010 at 8:57pm
^ That really sucks Jonas.  Hopefully you get it before their estimate.I have the album as a promo from Season of Mist, and it's been on heavy rotation lately. Awesome stuff! ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |