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Topic: The Band That Was AWESOME and then Wasn't
Posted By: Nick Dilley
Subject: The Band That Was AWESOME and then Wasn't
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2013 at 11:50pm
HEY.

What was the band that you thought would be the shizz forever, but then totally let you down?

For me, Shadows Fall comes to mind...

I loved Somber Eyes to the Sky and Of One Blood. Heck, I even liked The Art of Balance quite a bit.


...but after that... ugh...

Okay, the intro to "The Light that Blinds" was sick as hell. But other than that....*yawn*


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Posted By: vmoore
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2013 at 1:27am
BLACK TIDE fucking POST MORTEM was a piece of shit man i loved light from above. black tide was a band i wanted to see grow and evolve. not become like every other band. that said i still like the song that fire on post mortem but the rest is garbage. hopefully when their 3 album surfaces they will get  heads out of their asses and actually make a follow up to light from above and not continue down the commercial path of post mortem. they were one of my favorite bands and light from above was only their first album. i still love that album and own the cd of it. THEY WASTED THEIR FUCKING TALENTS ON POST FAGTEM


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Posted By: vmoore
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2013 at 1:51am
did i mention that post mortem PISSES ME THE FUCK OFF OMFg. excluding the song that fire of course

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Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2013 at 10:22am
First band that comes to mind is Metallica who were my fave band for many years but have let me down a lot since! No problem just time for me to move on Headbanger


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2013 at 5:00pm
I might be the odd man out here, but I think that Metallica redeemed themselves with Death Magnetic. Then, of course, they did Lulu, but that's not a "real" Metallica album to me anyway.

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Posted By: Daysbetween
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2013 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

I might be the odd man out here, but I think that Metallica redeemed themselves with Death Magnetic. Then, of course, they did Lulu, but that's not a "real" Metallica album to me anyway.

I agree that Death Magnetic was good and so was the more recent EP .... but I was still disappointed by Load / Re-Load and especially St.Anger & Lulu. Concerning Lulu - they have all defended it to the hilt in the press so we must accept that they consider it part of their discography.


Posted By: vmoore
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2013 at 5:47pm
in my opinion that ep you speak of is called beyond magnetic and i think it is the best thing they have written and released in yearsi love every song on it


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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2013 at 7:04pm

Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

I might be the odd man out here, but I think that Metallica redeemed themselves with Death Magnetic. Then, of course, they did Lulu, but that's not a "real" Metallica album to me anyway.

Agree 100%.



Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2013 at 1:57am
Lacuna Coil for me. I enjoy their older gothic metal work, but the quality of their albums has been taking downturns since they started playing alternative metal IMO. I hated their last album Dark Adrenaline. The two before that were OK with a few highlights. But they've never done anything on the level of their first two albums again for me. 

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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2013 at 5:37am
Originally posted by Daysbetween Daysbetween wrote:

but I was still disappointed by Load / Re-Load and especially St.Anger & Lulu.


I don't like Load and Re-Load either. I actually won a copy of Load at a pre-release party. The only time I was not happy with winning something. Still, I kept it and I still have it somewhere.... but I never listen to it. I actually quite like St. Anger, but it is nowhere near their classics, or even Death Magnetic.

Originally posted by Daysbetween Daysbetween wrote:

Concerning Lulu - they have all defended it to the hilt in the press so we must accept that they consider it part of their discography.


Well, Metallica certainly have to defend it and to consider it part of their discography... otherwise, they would sort of undermine the whole thing and, you know, not acknowledge Lou Reed and all that. But to me, it's not a "real" Metallica album.


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Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2013 at 7:18am
Cradle Of Filth haven't done anything good in years.
Fear Factory lost my interest a lot.


But a lot of Prog bands went bad in the 80s, a lot of Thrash bands went bad in the 90s, a lot of 90s bands went band in the last decade.


Its cool when bands like Megadeth or Kiss come back after a slump and start being awesome again though.


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Posted By: IMPF2112
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2013 at 4:07pm
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2013 at 4:24pm
This is a Loaded question.  I generally find that when I like a band I tend to generally like all of their output.  I haven't heard Lulu yet, so there is still that chance.  I like Load and Re-Load and Some Kind of Monster and St. Anger, and Death Magnetic.  None of them are as great as the Ride The Lightning through Black Album phase, but I still like them.
 
Queensryche are a band that get slagged a lot in this category, but again they are a band that haven't made a bad album.  However, they've made some not as good as their classic albums.  I think it is really hard to find a band out there that hasn't done this though.  Aerosmith, AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, etc... have all made some classic masterpiece albums, but they have also released some not as good drug fueled/record label deal/formula following albums that although they are enjoyable enough to listen to they aren't as great as their masterpiece albums.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2013 at 5:28pm
Am I allowed to say Mastodon?  I think The Hunter kind of blows.
 
Going to add Megadeth, in my opinion The System Has Failed was a great comback album that fits in with their classic albums, but everything they've released since has been more unremarkable & sterile.  I just don't hear the thrash spirit any more.
 
Not even going to touch on Metallica other than to say that I don't see what makes Death Magnetic any better than any of their 90s albums.
 
Boris is one of my favourite bands but I will freely admit that they haven't done anything amazing in 6 or 7 years.
 
 
Then you've got bands like, say, Korpiklaani or Alestorm (or Dream Theater trololololo) that make me go... okay, I get it, this is your style.  Just don't expect me to buy the "same" album again.  That's an entirely different pot to stir, though.


Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2013 at 5:32pm
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Am I allowed to say Mastodon?  I think The Hunter kind of blows.
 
Going to add Megadeth, in my opinion The System Has Failed was a great comback album that fits in with their classic albums, but everything they've released since has been more unremarkable & sterile.  I just don't hear the thrash spirit any more.
 
Not even going to touch on Metallica other than to say that I don't see what makes Death Magnetic any better than any of their 90s albums.
 
Boris is one of my favourite bands but I will freely admit that they haven't done anything amazing in 6 or 7 years.


No, you are not allowed to say Mastodon.  haha.

Totally agree with the Megadeth statement. I think their albums after The System Has Failed each had one or two good tracks, but overall, I agree.  Definitely missing that spirit.


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Posted By: VargTheViking
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2013 at 6:09pm
I find that after The System Has Failed the quality is all over the place. United Abominations was ok, but there was a lot of filler. Endgame was pretty sweet overall and Thirteen was pretty dull. I don't know if I should be looking forward to Super Collider or not to be honest.
 


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2013 at 6:37pm
With a name like "Super Collider" I don't have high hopes.  Though it's marginally better than "Th1rt3en"


Posted By: vmoore
Date Posted: 19 Mar 2013 at 7:22pm
I believe megadeth has been on a great album run since the world needs a hero

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Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 7:13pm
Okay, on the flip side....

What's the band you think has never failed to kick ass? Whether it's an objective opinion or something you know is one of those "this band can do no wrong [for me]" things....

I need to think about who that is for me for a bit. How 'bout you guys?


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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 7:34pm
^Rush! Cathedral!


Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 7:38pm
Originally posted by Nick Dilley Nick Dilley wrote:

Okay, on the flip side....

What's the band you think has never failed to kick ass? Whether it's an objective opinion or something you know is one of those "this band can do no wrong [for me]" things....

I need to think about who that is for me for a bit. How 'bout you guys?

Mastodon and Tool are 2 bands that have yet to disappoint me.  However, I didn't even like Mastodon on my first listen (I think I'd only heard "Blood and Thunder" around the time it launched).  I got into them through Crack The Skye, and went backwards realizing they haven't really done wrong.


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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 8:38pm
Satyricon.  They really need to rewind and drop the whole "black n role" shtick.  It's not all bad, though "K.I.N.G." is rather obnoxious.

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Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 9:05pm
How about Sadus?  They released some insanely good brutal thrash metal back in the day but then released that really average "comeback" album that sounded nothing similar.


Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 11:52pm
Originally posted by Nick Dilley Nick Dilley wrote:

Okay, on the flip side....

What's the band you think has never failed to kick ass? Whether it's an objective opinion or something you know is one of those "this band can do no wrong [for me]" things....

I need to think about who that is for me for a bit. How 'bout you guys?


Rush, Death, Amorphis, Overkill, Isis


Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 7:28am
Sepultura. Once an excellent band, with many classic albums. After the departure of Max Cavalera, Sepultura never were the same...


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 12:37pm
Originally posted by Nick Dilley Nick Dilley wrote:

Okay, on the flip side....

What's the band you think has never failed to kick ass? Whether it's an objective opinion or something you know is one of those "this band can do no wrong [for me]" things....

I need to think about who that is for me for a bit. How 'bout you guys?
 
Isis, Kayo Dot
 


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Satyricon.  They really need to rewind and drop the whole "black n role" shtick.  It's not all bad, though "K.I.N.G." is rather obnoxious.
 
I feel exactly the opposite about Satyricon. I�m not too thrilled about their early stuff but I really like their later releases.


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Posted By: VargTheViking
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 1:41pm
Originally posted by Nick Dilley Nick Dilley wrote:

Okay, on the flip side....

What's the band you think has never failed to kick ass? Whether it's an objective opinion or something you know is one of those "this band can do no wrong [for me]" things....

I need to think about who that is for me for a bit. How 'bout you guys?
 
Bolt Thrower, Rotting Christ, Isis, and Type O Negative all have great discographies imo. I'm probably forgetting a few but these are the ones that popped into my head almost instantaneously.


Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2013 at 4:54pm
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

Originally posted by Nick Dilley Nick Dilley wrote:

Okay, on the flip side....

What's the band you think has never failed to kick ass? Whether it's an objective opinion or something you know is one of those "this band can do no wrong [for me]" things....

I need to think about who that is for me for a bit. How 'bout you guys?

Mastodon and Tool are 2 bands that have yet to disappoint me.  However, I didn't even like Mastodon on my first listen (I think I'd only heard "Blood and Thunder" around the time it launched).  I got into them through Crack The Skye, and went backwards realizing they haven't really done wrong.

In addition to these:  Isis (as others mentioned), Enslaved, Napalm Death (though they were still trying to find their sound on Scum), and Alice In Chains have yet to really disappointing me.  I thought of another one at work but forgot.


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Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2013 at 6:47am
Clutch and Monster Magnet for me. Flawless discographies.
Coheed And Cambria are flawless for me so far.

Hatebreed are consistently perfect.  

I agree on Mastodon.

Rishloo and Riverside haven't ever made a bad song to my ears.



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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2013 at 7:39am
Back to the original topic: Morbid Angel obviously.

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2013 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

Back to the original topic: Morbid Angel obviously.
 
haha yeah...


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 1:06am
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Am I allowed to say Mastodon?  I think The Hunter kind of blows.
 
Going to add Megadeth, in my opinion The System Has Failed was a great comback album that fits in with their classic albums, but everything they've released since has been more unremarkable & sterile.  I just don't hear the thrash spirit any more.
 
Not even going to touch on Metallica other than to say that I don't see what makes Death Magnetic any better than any of their 90s albums.
 
Boris is one of my favourite bands but I will freely admit that they haven't done anything amazing in 6 or 7 years.
 
 
Then you've got bands like, say, Korpiklaani or Alestorm (or Dream Theater trololololo) that make me go... okay, I get it, this is your style.  Just don't expect me to buy the "same" album again.  That's an entirely different pot to stir, though.


Kind of?? You either think it blows or not




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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 02 May 2013 at 10:55am
The world is not a black and white place.


Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2013 at 6:52am
Metallica, Queensryche and Def Leppard come to mind.



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