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Topic: SOPA/Protect IP
Posted By: Wilytank
Subject: SOPA/Protect IP
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 5:12pm

Stop Online Piracy Act is a bill introduced into U.S. House of Representatives.  It's purpose would be to allow court orders by copyright holders and the US Department of Justice against websites websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement.  This may allow the barring of online advertising networks from doing business with the website and stop search engines from linking to the sites.  The bill would also make make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a crime punishable with up to five years in prison for up to 10 pieces of music/movies within 6 months.

PROTECT IP (Preventing Real Online Threats to Economic Creativity and Theft to Intellectual Property) Act is a bill that will be discussed along with SOPA.  It will provide for the enhanced enforcement against copyright infringing websites overseas.  Search engines would be ordered to remove or disable the access to the infringing site, and advertising services would be ordered to stop its transactions with the website.

So what this basically means is that any website streaming copyrighted material would be shut down.  THIS WOULD INCLUDE METAL MUSIC ARCHIVES AND PROG ARCHIVES!  This is a very dangerous bill.  It was originally going to be voted on on December 15th, but was postponed.  Congress comes back into session January 17th, and these two bills will be discussed then.

If you think you're outside the blast radius because you live outside the United States, think again.  A large portion of the internet is controlled by companies based within the U.S.  You're not totally helpless however.  There are several online petitions that can be sign by anyone opposed to the bill.  Those that live inside the United States can write to their Representative and ask them to vote down on the bill.  A helpful website for that is this one:  http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/29/1049815/-Internet-giants-seriously-considering-nuclear-option-to-stop-SOPA?detail=hide" rel="nofollow - http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/29/1049815/-Internet-giants-seriously-considering-nuclear-option-to-stop-SOPA?detail=hide  Link is near the bottom of the article.


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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2012 at 7:41pm
It would probably mean that there would be no mp3 streaming
I doubt that either of the sites would be drastically affect

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 3:15am
I�ve never used the mp3 stream function on neither PA nor on MMA, but I know a lot of other users who have and who would be affected.

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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 6:38am
Fascism � la americana.


Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 6:48am
Another video about the same issue (with portuguese subtitles):
 


Posted By: Kingcrimsonprog
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 11:44am
Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

Another video about the same issue (with portuguese subtitles):
 

That was a ridiculously clear and informative video. I've never seen an issue explained in such a complete, focused and unambiguous way before. Whoever made that video should be in charge of something important.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2012 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by Kingcrimsonprog Kingcrimsonprog wrote:

Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

Another video about the same issue (with portuguese subtitles):
 

That was a ridiculously clear and informative video. I've never seen an issue explained in such a complete, focused and unambiguous way before. Whoever made that video should be in charge of something important.


Yep, that is a great video.


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 6:32am
RYM is temporarity down today as a protest against the bill: http://rateyourmusic.com/" rel="nofollow - http://rateyourmusic.com/
Wiki and Metal Archives too.


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 6:47am
...Well I guess that makes it a bit hard to do database editing today. On to other tasks thenLamp

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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 10:29am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:




RYM is temporarity down today as a protest against the bill: http://rateyourmusic.com/" rel="nofollow - http://rateyourmusic.com/
Wiki and Metal Archives too.

So is wikipedia, reddit and others

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Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 10:58am
If only Facebook and Youtube participated.  Many people (not me) would go nuts without Facebook for a day.  Don't know what it would really take for those with the voting power to notice.  Maybe their kids/grandkids could turn on them or something. LOL

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Posted By: DefinitionOfHatred
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

If only Facebook and Youtube participated.  Many people (not me) would go nuts without Facebook for a day.  Don't know what it would really take for those with the voting power to notice.  Maybe their kids/grandkids could turn on them or something. LOL
 
This. If FB and/or YT participated, then it'd be insane. I'd blackout my website if I happened to own/administrate one. What we are seeing is a direct human rights violation. They can't get away with it.


Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by DefinitionOfHatred DefinitionOfHatred wrote:

Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

If only Facebook and Youtube participated. �Many people (not me) would go nuts without Facebook for a day. �Don't know what it would really take for those with the voting power to notice. �Maybe their kids/grandkids could turn on them or something.�LOL



This. If FB and/or YT participated, then it'd be insane. I'd blackout my website if I happened to own/administrate one. What we are seeing is a direct human rights violation. They can't get away with it.

I wouldn't go that far, but the sopa act would in essence destroy what the Internet was intended to do, to provide quick and easy access to information.
(to say a human rights violation I mean)

Facebook and Youtube should really have participated, shame they didn't

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 4:16pm
HEY MAN, I'M OUTTA YER JURISDICTION




Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

HEY MAN, I'M OUTTA YER JURISDICTION





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Posted By: DefinitionOfHatred
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 12:23pm
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

HEY MAN, I'M OUTTA YER JURISDICTION
 
That's another problem: everyone (or almost) will be affected by an American law. Confused


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 12:27pm
Seriously though, the US doesn't fucking own the internet.  If they really want to restrict content, they have to do it the China way


Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 12:44pm
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Seriously though, the US doesn't fucking own the internet.  If they really want to restrict content, they have to do it the China way



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Posted By: Doomster
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 1:52pm
If this law passes, I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon Congress' faces. 


Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 2:25pm
Originally posted by Doomster Doomster wrote:

If this law passes, I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon Congress' faces. 
shoot up congress? 
go for it. 

actually, please do, would solve a lot of problems Cool


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Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 2:50pm
Originally posted by Stooge Stooge wrote:

If only Facebook and Youtube participated.  Many people (not me) would go nuts without Facebook for a day.  Don't know what it would really take for those with the voting power to notice.  Maybe their kids/grandkids could turn on them or something. LOL


That would have been great!

"HEY!  My paper's due tomorrow and Wikipedia keeps giving me this SOPA shit!  Better go on Facebook and bitch about it!"

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"HEY!!  They shut down Facebook too!  Whatever SOPA is, it sucks!  FUCK OBAMA!!"

Or something like that.  As someone who was against this from the very beginning, it was pretty amusing seeing basically everyone else just find out about the thing yesterday, and not have any idea what it's really supposed to do.  But the blackout really did work, because apparently a bunch of senators' websites got overloaded and people took to the streets to protest.  Whatever works, right?



Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 5:42pm
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharing-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html" rel="nofollow - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharing-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html

Fuck.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 5:47pm
It looks like our brilliant government will take a different approach just in case SOPA/Protect IP doesn't work...

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Posted By: Wilytank
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by SKwid SKwid wrote:

Originally posted by Doomster Doomster wrote:

If this law passes, I will rain down an ungodly fucking firestorm upon Congress' faces. 
shoot up congress? 
go for it. 

actually, please do, would solve a lot of problems Cool

Considering Anonymous will probably detonate a nuke if it does pass, he may not need to.


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Posted By: Doomster
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 6:49pm
"SOPA is the Anti-Internet. We, the forces of the Spiral who want the Internet to grow and evolve, must fight them! WE ARE THE INTERNET THAT WILL BREAK THROUGH THE HEAVENS! WHO IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE!"


Posted By: Diogenes
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2012 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharing-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html" rel="nofollow - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharing-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html

Fuck.


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Posted By: DefinitionOfHatred
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 10:35am
I found out this:
 
http://theoriesofconspiracy.com/2011/11/list-of-major-companies-supporting-sopa.htm" rel="nofollow - http://theoriesofconspiracy.com/2011/11/list-of-major-companies-supporting-sopa.htm
 
A list of companies supporting SOPA. I have no idea of what Ford, Rolex and Caterpillar have to benefit with this law. LOL


Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 11:04am
^ ^ ^
I saw a similar list on The BestPage In The Universe:  http://maddox.xmission.com/" rel="nofollow - http://maddox.xmission.com/


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Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharing-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html" rel="nofollow - http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2012/01/file-sharinseg-megaupload-shut-down-for-piracy-by-feds.html Fuck.
this makes no sense, megaupload was a danish company hosted in Canada. Wtf.
This pisses me off to no end.

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Posted By: DefinitionOfHatred
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by SKwid SKwid wrote:

this makes no sense, megaupload was a danish company hosted in Canada.
 
SOPA/PIPA has officially become international. I wonder what's next.


Posted By: Stooge
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 2:08pm
I used to use Megavideo to catch up on episodes of my favorite tv shows. Unhappy

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Posted By: Doomster
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 4:45pm
Guys, I wouldn't worry about it. Even if the bill passes, the riots and protests would be so powerful that it would be like a mini Civil War.


Posted By: SKwid
Date Posted: 20 Jan 2012 at 10:59pm
SOPA and PIPA have offically been dropped by congress for the time being 



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Posted By: DefinitionOfHatred
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 8:36am
Originally posted by Doomster Doomster wrote:

...the riots and protests would be so powerful that it would be like a mini Civil War.
 
That is no good thing IMO.
 
However, it's pretty cool that the bill didn't pass...for now.


Posted By: Doomster
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2012 at 11:16pm
Originally posted by DefinitionOfHatred DefinitionOfHatred wrote:

Originally posted by Doomster Doomster wrote:

...the riots and protests would be so powerful that it would be like a mini Civil War.
 That is no good thing IMO.

Yeah, that's what I meant. If it passed, stuff like that would happen, and then we'd be fucked.


Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 8:46am
^Not me! I am brazilian!Evil Smile

EDIT: No, seriously though, do you really believe the USA will turn something like as described in the graphic novel DMZ? See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_%28comics%29" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_%28comics%29


Posted By: DefinitionOfHatred
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 11:07am
Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

  No, seriously though, do you really believe the USA will turn something like as described in the graphic novel DMZ?
 
Wouldn't be too surprised if things continue by this look.


Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2012 at 9:52pm
Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

^Not me! I am brazilian!Evil Smile

And that wouldn't really have mattered had the bill passed; it basically said we can do anything anywhere.


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Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 6:33am
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

^Not me! I am brazilian!Evil Smile

And that wouldn't really have mattered had the bill passed; it basically said we can do anything anywhere.
 
But here I was talking about an hypothetical future Civil War on USA...


Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 23 Jan 2012 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

Originally posted by Tupan Tupan wrote:

^Not me! I am brazilian!Evil Smile

And that wouldn't really have mattered had the bill passed; it basically said we can do anything anywhere.
 
But here I was talking about an hypothetical future Civil War on USA...

Oh, then yes you're safe LOL


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