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Topic: Progressive Metal Discussion Thread
Posted By: J-Man
Subject: Progressive Metal Discussion Thread
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 8:17pm
The title says it all - this is a place to discuss progressive metal in general. This is probably my favorite genre of music, combining my love for progressive rock and metal. We can discuss all types of prog metal here - prog death, progressive power metal, traditional prog metal, progressive black metal, ambient prog metal, progressive doom metal, etc....

Let the games begin Big smileRawks
-Jeff





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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2010 at 11:05pm
Rawks

Avant Metal, Post Metal, Experimental Metal. Yeah, I like them.

Rawks


Posted By: jampa17
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 9:26am
Rawkslet's say that every post in this thread has to have the metalhead emoticon... and that been said... I love prog metal.. is my favorite sub-genre and there's a lot of great bands out there... just to name a few:
 
Dream Theater
Angra
Shaaman
Symphony X
Pagan's Mind
Anubis Gate
O.S.I.
Liquid Tension Experiment


Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 1:55pm
im listening to Gojira now and they are awesome, i love their shugging riff, crushing beats and time shifts, great atmosphere, and complex structure.

Gojira is a uniqe band to my ears, they are killer live their drummer is sick (in a positive way), i only have From Mars to Sirius  and absolutly digs its sludgy riffs and colourfull details http://images.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pixeljoint.com/files/icons/emoticon_rock.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/7558.htm&usg=__yCSVKNfDnO5yhyi0mMHx7gW2grc=&h=50&w=50&sz=1&hl=nn&start=19&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=I-LxqmAnUMHjrM:&tbnh=50&tbnw=50&prev=/images%3Fq%3Demoticon%2Bmetal%26start%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dnn%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:nb-NO:official%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1 -   http://images.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pixeljoint.com/files/icons/emoticon_rock.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.pixeljoint.com/pixelart/7558.htm&usg=__yCSVKNfDnO5yhyi0mMHx7gW2grc=&h=50&w=50&sz=1&hl=nn&start=19&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=I-LxqmAnUMHjrM:&tbnh=50&tbnw=50&prev=/images%3Fq%3Demoticon%2Bmetal%26start%3D18%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dnn%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:nb-NO:official%26ndsp%3D18%26tbs%3Disch:1">


Posted By: IknowSATAN
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 2:02pm
For me, Opeth has been the band that introduced me to progressive metal, and I love them ! Rawks

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Posted By: NJCat_11
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 2:11pm
One of my favorite bands that I learned of through PA is Psychotic Waltz.  Devon Graves, the lead vocalist, has the voice of Bruce Dickenson and plays the flute like Ian Anderson.  It's a perfect combination.

Reminds me of Mike Portnoy  >>> Rawks


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 2:14pm
Any other Edge of Sanity fans here? I've been a borderline fanboy lately LOL

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Posted By: NecronCommander
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 6:07pm
I haven't gotten into Edge of Sanity yet.

I probably prefer experimental metal, post metal, avant garde metal, jazz metal, etc. (all those experimental metal genres) over traditional progressive metal, but I still love all forms of progressive metal.


Posted By: cold103
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2010 at 10:05pm
To me, the most exciting thing that is going on in the prog-metal world right now is that Pain of Salvation are releasing their album "Road Salt - Ivory" soon. Rawks Perhaps in May.



And I guess it's cool that Dream Theater are touring with Iron Maiden in a few months.


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:10am
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Any other Edge of Sanity fans here? I've been a borderline fanboy lately LOL
 
Borderline Jeff???LOL. How about coming out of the closet for real! You love that band.Big smile And oh yeah I�m quite the fan too. I was a gigantic fan in the nineties.


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Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:49am
When it comes to Progressive Metal (or Metal in general) it doesn't get any better than Sigh. Imaginary Sonicscape is my favourite Progressive Metal album (well, it's tied with Back to Times of Splendor).


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 3:57am
Sigh is a great act. I haven�t listened to Imaginary Sonicscape yet, but it�s next on my list. I�m actually in the process of reviewing album.asp?id=8736 - Scenario IV: Dread Dreams . I�ve simply started from an end with their discography.

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Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 4:00am
OPETH yeah


Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 4:04am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Sigh is a great act. I haven�t listened to Imaginary Sonicscape yet, but it�s next on my list. I�m actually in the process of reviewing album.asp?id=8736 - Scenario IV: Dread Dreams . I�ve simply started from an end with their discography.
Scenario IV: Dread Dreams is a fantastic album too, definitely their most underrated along with Gallows Gallery. Sigh can really do no wrong.
 
Oh, and I love your user picture thing. Freakery is a fantastic Grindcore release Big smile


Posted By: Balthamel
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:00am
 I also think some of the material Lamb of God have progmetal credidentlals, mostly their riffs are what i call complex, the drumming is quite impressive, and the overall sound is quite epic.

also LoG is avtuly not no painfull to listen to becouse the production is quite good so you hear all the instruments clearly so you get the neuances


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 8:27am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Any other Edge of Sanity fans here? I've been a borderline fanboy lately LOL
 
Borderline Jeff???LOL. How about coming out of the closet for real! You love that band.Big smile And oh yeah I�m quite the fan too. I was a gigantic fan in the nineties.


Alright, I won't try to hide it. LOLTongue

Crimson is in my top 5 albums EVER, and I love all of their other stuff (except for Infernal and Cryptic as well).






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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:22am
Originally posted by DeathOfSeasons DeathOfSeasons wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Sigh is a great act. I haven�t listened to Imaginary Sonicscape yet, but it�s next on my list. I�m actually in the process of reviewing album.asp?id=8736 - Scenario IV: Dread Dreams . I�ve simply started from an end with their discography.
Scenario IV: Dread Dreams is a fantastic album too, definitely their most underrated along with Gallows Gallery. Sigh can really do no wrong.
 
Oh, and I love your user picture thing. Freakery is a fantastic Grindcore release Big smile
 
LOLDid you know that the frontman is now a woman? Had a sexchange op.. and all. Bizarre stuff. Love that album. It�s such a filthy grindcore album. I guess I�ll have to make a grindcore appreciation thread sometime.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 9:37am
one nice thing .. or a bad thing about the new forum. Inspiration rules...


Raff and I are about to head out shopping LOL and the CD cellar awaits....

lots of albums to be found I haven't heard or owned in years...


Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 11:10am
Those who doesn't like DT and PoS should be cast away into oblivion. Hail the gods of progressive metal Rawks

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 11:21am
In the worlds of progressive metal, Kayo Dot's Choirs of the Eye is a stand-out for me as are Taal's albums and Hoyry-Kone (though there we're more Prog than metal).




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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 11:26am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Did you know that the frontman is now a woman? Had a sexchange op.. and all.
 
Wow, I guess the brutal also fag up. Holy crap!


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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 11:31am
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

In the worlds of progressive metal, Kayo Dot's Choirs of the Eye is a stand-out for me as are Taal's albums and Hoyry-Kone (though there we're more Prog than metal).


 
I never quite understood why Kayo dot is classified as metal. IMO they are more like an avant-garde mixture of rock, jazz and heavy metal. They are somewhere in between.


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Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2010 at 6:22pm
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by DeathOfSeasons DeathOfSeasons wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Sigh is a great act. I haven�t listened to Imaginary Sonicscape yet, but it�s next on my list. I�m actually in the process of reviewing album.asp?id=8736 - Scenario IV: Dread Dreams . I�ve simply started from an end with their discography.
Scenario IV: Dread Dreams is a fantastic album too, definitely their most underrated along with Gallows Gallery. Sigh can really do no wrong.
 
Oh, and I love your user picture thing. Freakery is a fantastic Grindcore release Big smile
 
LOLDid you know that the frontman is now a woman? Had a sexchange op.. and all. Bizarre stuff. Love that album. It�s such a filthy grindcore album. I guess I�ll have to make a grindcore appreciation thread sometime.
 
Yeah man, I heard about that. I hope people don't just pay attention to them because of the sex change because they play some of the best Grindcore around at the moment.


Posted By: Kashmir75
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2010 at 11:04pm
Can't wait for the new PoS album. 

Hopefully we'll get some Tool and Opeth this year as well.




Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2010 at 5:27pm
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by DeathOfSeasons DeathOfSeasons wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Sigh is a great act. I haven�t listened to Imaginary Sonicscape yet, but it�s next on my list. I�m actually in the process of reviewing album.asp?id=8736 -
 
LOLDid you know that the frontman is now a woman? Had a sexchange op.. and all. Bizarre stuff. Love that album. It�s such a filthy grindcore album. I guess I�ll have to make a grindcore appreciation thread sometime.
i am glad  too see fans of Sigh here. Myself being a  Sigh fan, i find Gallows Gallery realy great album. Hangman's Hymn is fenomenal, a masterpiece, awesome tracks like Finale: Hangman's Hymn/In Paradisum/Das Ende,Dies Irae/The Master Malice, Introitus/Kyrie.. Their new one is also astonishing though, one of the year's best so far 


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Posted By: bsms810
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 9:03am
Haha ive just come from another thread saying how much DT doesnt do it for me.... Now i come to this thread saying that prog metal is also my favourite genre... give me a bit of Opeth, Cynic, PoS or Porcupine Tree anyday


Posted By: DeathOfSeasons
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 9:30am
Originally posted by angelmk angelmk wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by DeathOfSeasons DeathOfSeasons wrote:

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Sigh is a great act. I haven�t listened to Imaginary Sonicscape yet, but it�s next on my list. I�m actually in the process of reviewing album.asp?id=8736 - Scenario IV: Dread Dreams . I�ve simply started from an end with their discography.
Scenario IV: Dread Dreams is a fantastic album too, definitely their most underrated along with Gallows Gallery. Sigh can really do no wrong.
 
Oh, and I love your user picture thing. Freakery is a fantastic Grindcore release Big smile
 
LOLDid you know that the frontman is now a woman? Had a sexchange op.. and all. Bizarre stuff. Love that album. It�s such a filthy grindcore album. I guess I�ll have to make a grindcore appreciation thread sometime.
i am glad  too see fans of Sigh here. Myself being a  Sigh fan, i find Gallows Gallery realy great album. Hangman's Hymn is fenomenal, a masterpiece, awesome tracks like Finale: Hangman's Hymn/In Paradisum/Das Ende,Dies Irae/The Master Malice, Introitus/Kyrie.. Their new one is also astonishing though, one of the year's best so far 
 
 
My favourite song off Hangman's Hymn is definitely Introitus/Kyrie. So much energy and such a kick ass guitar solo.


Posted By: Irishmetalhead
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 11:40am
First postBig smile
Absolutely love progressive metal, especially dream theater, opeth, porcupine tree and redemption. Have recently come across another awesome local band here in Ireland called dstributor as well



Posted By: cold103
Date Posted: 08 Apr 2010 at 12:59pm
This was recently uploaded to http://www.youtube.com/user/InsideOutMusicTV - Inside Out Music's Youtube channel .


This was recently uploaded to http://www.youtube.com/user/ArjenALucassen - Arjen Lucassen's Youtube channel .


Smile


Posted By: Harry
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 3:54am
Originally posted by bsms810 bsms810 wrote:

Haha ive just come from another thread saying how much DT doesnt do it for me.... Now i come to this thread saying that prog metal is also my favourite genre... give me a bit of Opeth, Cynic, PoS or Porcupine Tree anyday


Cynic own


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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 09 Apr 2010 at 4:46am
I love prog metal for the same reasons that I love prog rock: the complexitities, genre transgressions, and that it's typically different from other types of popular music - but then again, I've always thought that metal as such was more progressive than other genres of popular music. I mean the time changes and complexities have been there since the day of Black Sabbath and Deep Purple and many extreme metal (and non-extreme metal bands) bands use completely unorthodox song structures. That is one of the reasons why I don't buy into the rigidity-of-meta- argument that I encounter in some prog rock circles. Also, how can an ever developing genre with so many subgenres as metal even be considered rigid?

Anyway.My favorite prog metal acts are the obvious ones: Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Psychotic Waltz and Queensr�che. In addition, I like a number of progressive extreme metal bands like Cynic, Atheist, Obscura, Death, Invocator and Pestilences "Spheres" and progressive power metal bands like Symphony X and Anubis Gate. There are also bands which are not always considered progressive metal bands as such, but who, I think, a worthy of the progressive tag - namely Iron Maiden with their changes of tempo, epic tracks, guitar harmonies and so on, and Mercyful Fate with their completely different approach to song structures and Coheed and Cambria (who are probably not even considered metal by many) with their conceptual lyrical universe.

Progressive metal has been derided as being pretentious and all technique and no heart, but, to be honest, what I like a bout it is the more cerebral approach to music and all the thought that's behind the music. I do find odd time signature and unusual chord progressions and the like inspiring and I love the fact that many progressive metal songs have so many different parts that listening to one song equals the experience of listening to a whole album in other genres.

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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 3:20pm
Time Sig . . .

I'm there with you on all accounts, and more.  Except for that era of Pestilence Tongue But you know, I'll
probably get the 2 albums sometime in the future just to have those guys that pushed the envelope
long ago.
By the way, nice "quote" from Death on your sig Thumbs Up.  (You may like my story on how I got into Metal...
maybe).


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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2010 at 2:59am
Originally posted by MAVIIIVAM MAVIIIVAM wrote:

I'm there with you on all accounts, and more.  Except for that era of Pestilence Tongue But you know, I'll
probably get the 2 albums sometime in the future just to have those guys that pushed the envelope
long ago.


I love "Spheres" - it's so weird and jazzy. I love their other work, too (although I didn't dig their latest album immediately, but after a year or so, I'm starting to appreciate it), but I don't think they're as progressive as "Spheres". Well, maybe "Testinomy of the Ancients" could be considered kind of progressive with its use of keyboards and all the instrumental interludes and all that.


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Posted By: bsms810
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 7:08am
Originally posted by Kashmir75 Kashmir75 wrote:

Can't wait for the new PoS album. 

Hopefully we'll get some Tool and Opeth this year as well.


Id bloomin love to see some new Opeth this year


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 7:55am
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

I love prog metal for the same reasons that I love prog rock: the complexitities, genre transgressions, and that it's typically different from other types of popular music - but then again, I've always thought that metal as such was more progressive than other genres of popular music. I mean the time changes and complexities have been there since the day of Black Sabbath and Deep Purple and many extreme metal (and non-extreme metal bands) bands use completely unorthodox song structures. That is one of the reasons why I don't buy into the rigidity-of-meta- argument that I encounter in some prog rock circles. Also, how can an ever developing genre with so many subgenres as metal even be considered rigid?

Anyway.My favorite prog metal acts are the obvious ones: Dream Theater, Fates Warning, Psychotic Waltz and Queensr�che. In addition, I like a number of progressive extreme metal bands like Cynic, Atheist, Obscura, Death, Invocator and Pestilences "Spheres" and progressive power metal bands like Symphony X and Anubis Gate. There are also bands which are not always considered progressive metal bands as such, but who, I think, a worthy of the progressive tag - namely Iron Maiden with their changes of tempo, epic tracks, guitar harmonies and so on, and Mercyful Fate with their completely different approach to song structures and Coheed and Cambria (who are probably not even considered metal by many) with their conceptual lyrical universe.

Progressive metal has been derided as being pretentious and all technique and no heart, but, to be honest, what I like a bout it is the more cerebral approach to music and all the thought that's behind the music. I do find odd time signature and unusual chord progressions and the like inspiring and I love the fact that many progressive metal songs have so many different parts that listening to one song equals the experience of listening to a whole album in other genres.
 
So very very well put and summarises my feelings towards Prog Metal precisely! Clap


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Posted By: Evolutionary Sleeper
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 11:48am
Originally posted by NJCat_11 NJCat_11 wrote:

One of my favorite bands that I learned of through PA is Psychotic Waltz.  Devon Graves, the lead vocalist, has the voice of Bruce Dickenson and plays the flute like Ian Anderson.  It's a perfect combination.

Reminds me of Mike Portnoy  >>> Rawks


Clap Great band. Into the Everflow is one of the greatest metal albums of all-time. Rawks


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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 3:57pm
Just beginning with the whole prog metal thing at the moment. So just Dream Theater and its cousin, Liquid Tension Experiment for me. But I'm looking about for proressive power metal as some of it seemed very much to my taste. So hopefully, I will become a well educated fan of the genre over the coming months...Smile


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 4:44pm
Odd as it may sound, I am not a big sound of 'traditional' prog-metal (i.e. in the DT mould), but rather of the more experimental bands - especially the instrumental ones. I have some problems with the typical singing style of traditional prog-metal bands, so I'd rather write vocals out of the equation altogether. 


Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Odd as it may sound, I am not a big sound of 'traditional' prog-metal (i.e. in the DT mould), but rather of the more experimental bands - especially the instrumental ones. I have some problems with the typical singing style of traditional prog-metal bands, so I'd rather write vocals out of the equation altogether. 
 
Thats because you are so used to those dulcet tones back home! Big smile


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Posted By: cold103
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 7:45pm
Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

Just beginning with the whole prog metal thing at the moment. So just Dream Theater and its cousin, Liquid Tension Experiment for me. But I'm looking about for proressive power metal as some of it seemed very much to my taste. So hopefully, I will become a well educated fan of the genre over the coming months...Smile

One of my favorite progressive-metal bands is Pain of Salvation. If you want to check them out, here's one of my favorite videos of theirs. But beware- The visuals of the video are kind of intense.



Though, Symphony X may be more of your style than Pain of Salvation. Symphony X are progressive-power-metal. They're my favorite progressive-power-metal band. Smile


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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2010 at 7:57pm
Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

Just beginning with the whole prog metal thing at the moment. So just Dream Theater and its cousin, Liquid Tension Experiment for me. But I'm looking about for proressive power metal as some of it seemed very much to my taste. So hopefully, I will become a well educated fan of the genre over the coming months...Smile
 
Rhapsody (of Fire) and Symphony X are the most prominent prog/power bands in the genre, and they're pretty good. Another lesser known one is Mago de Oz which is pretty good too.


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Posted By: cold103
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2010 at 9:46pm
Have any of you guys heard about perfectprog.net? http://www.perfectprog.net/ - [link] I found it recently. It's a progressive-metal social network. I thought it was interesting. Smile


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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 1:41am
^^
Yeah I have and I am a member.
 
 


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Posted By: hirszu
Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 2:39am
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

Just beginning with the whole prog metal thing at the moment. So just Dream Theater and its cousin, Liquid Tension Experiment for me. But I'm looking about for proressive power metal as some of it seemed very much to my taste. So hopefully, I will become a well educated fan of the genre over the coming months...Smile
 
Rhapsody (of Fire) and Symphony X are the most prominent prog/power bands in the genre, and they're pretty good. Another lesser known one is Mago de Oz which is pretty good too.


Also, check out Amorphis (last two albums definitely)


Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 8:07am
I have discovered something wonderous...
SHADOW GALLERY!
...Greatly appealing to my inner progger Geek
...and my inner metalhead Evil Smile


Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 6:00pm
^^ great discovery Smile

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 11 May 2010 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

I have discovered something wonderous...
SHADOW GALLERY!
...Greatly appealing to my inner progger Geek
...and my inner metalhead Evil Smile


Great band... Mike Baker was one of the best singers IMO. It's really a shame that he died so young. RIP. Heart


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 12 May 2010 at 2:50am
I discovered shadow gallery with this song (with the excellent and underrated Kevin Soffera on drums)
 
 
 


Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 7:40am
   ^
Yeah, it was 'Tyranny' I bought. SOOOOO GOOD. Clap


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by FusionKing FusionKing wrote:

I have discovered something wonderous...
SHADOW GALLERY!
...Greatly appealing to my inner progger Geek
...and my inner metalhead Evil Smile
 
They were a late discovery for me too; only really got into them last year but what a great band!


Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 2:09pm
Now listening to a great Prog Metal album, though of an edgier nature than most of the bands mentioned so far - Voivod's The Outer Limits.  Another band that suffered the untimely loss of one of its core membersUnhappy...


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 2:16pm
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Now listening to a great Prog Metal album, though of an edgier nature than most of the bands mentioned so far - Voivod's The Outer Limits.  Another band that suffered the untimely loss of one of its core membersUnhappy...


RIP Piggy!!! Disapprove  Voivod is great as well. I'm not the biggest fan, but I love Dimension Hatross!Big smile


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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 5:09pm
I still can't believe that Riverside is beating DT on the Prog Metal poll at PA. Are all the DT fankids asleep at this time of year or something?


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 8:00pm
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I still can't believe that Riverside is beating DT on the Prog Metal poll at PA. Are all the DT fankids asleep at this time of year or something?


I am considering getting a second account in order to vote for DT!! LOL (just kidding, don't penalize me or anything!)Tongue

I am really pissed off though.... Riverside is alright IMO, but nowhere near THE defining prog metal band. Whether you like them are not, DT IS prog metal!!! Rawks


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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 14 May 2010 at 9:37pm
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Now listening to a great Prog Metal album, though of an edgier nature than most of the bands mentioned so far - Voivod's The Outer Limits.  Another band that suffered the untimely loss of one of its core membersUnhappy...


My FAVE Voi-Vod Album, though most fans will like it least, also hard to find in the stores (it may
have been re-released) and my CD came with 3D glasses for the Art in the Booklet Big smile.
Its their most progiest album thats for sure.  The last track "Jack Luminous" is EPIC and awesome!

And whats this about DT vs Riverside?  Both Bands respect each other and are completely
different Bands, maybe the DT fans are not voting because its a silly poll Confused.
Theyre BOTH awesome Wink.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 6:35am
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I still can't believe that Riverside is beating DT on the Prog Metal poll at PA. Are all the DT fankids asleep at this time of year or something?


I am considering getting a second account in order to vote for DT!! LOL (just kidding, don't penalize me or anything!)Tongue

I am really pissed off though.... Riverside is alright IMO, but nowhere near THE defining prog metal band. Whether you like them are not, DT IS prog metal!!! Rawks


Remember that DT are too metal for a lot of prog fans. Riverside, for what I know of them (and I'm really curious to see them at NEARfest in just one month's time), are more likely to appeal to the average prog fans, not just musically, but also on account of the vocals - which, in my humble opinion, are vastly superior to LaBrie's.


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 7:52am
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

I still can't believe that Riverside is beating DT on the Prog Metal poll at PA. Are all the DT fankids asleep at this time of year or something?


I am considering getting a second account in order to vote for DT!! LOL (just kidding, don't penalize me or anything!)Tongue

I am really pissed off though.... Riverside is alright IMO, but nowhere near THE defining prog metal band. Whether you like them are not, DT IS prog metal!!! Rawks


Remember that DT are too metal for a lot of prog fans. Riverside, for what I know of them (and I'm really curious to see them at NEARfest in just one month's time), are more likely to appeal to the average prog fans, not just musically, but also on account of the vocals - which, in my humble opinion, are vastly superior to LaBrie's.


That's true... I'm not much of a fan of the Riverside/Porcupine Tree style, although I really like the newest Riverside album.

Have fun seeing them at NEARfest! My dad and I were going to see them in some local place, but you have to be 21 to enter.... that really pisses me off! LOL


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 8:32am
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:



Remember that DT are too metal for a lot of prog fans. Riverside, for what I know of them (and I'm really curious to see them at NEARfest in just one month's time), are more likely to appeal to the average prog fans, not just musically, but also on account of the vocals - which, in my humble opinion, are vastly superior to LaBrie's.


Well, let's say that Mariusz Duda takes far less risks than Labrie : his singing is almost whisper-like and I can't sense any originality in his voice (sort of Wilson-like, wearisome and irritating). You can't deny that Labrie delivers some awesome singing on 'images and words' (that was a huge improvement on the bland Dominici) or you must be really deaf or abhor high-pitched vocals. I saw both bands on stage : I cannot say I got bored during the DT shows (I saw them twice), while there were moments when boredom grabbed me during the riverside show (which was not metal at all).


Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 2:09pm
Guys, what do you think of the new Pain of Salvation. I was uterly dissapointed, being fan of the band this is huge blow for me, it is the worst PoS album so far for me. i only liked one song from there: Sisters. 

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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 4:25pm
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Now listening to a great Prog Metal album, though of an edgier nature than most of the bands mentioned so far - Voivod's The Outer Limits.  Another band that suffered the untimely loss of one of its core membersUnhappy...


RIP Piggy!!! Disapprove  Voivod is great as well. I'm not the biggest fan, but I love Dimension Hatross!Big smile
 
Yeah the death of Piggy was a real blow. One of my favorite guitarists. A true inspiration on my own playing. I�m about the world�s most dedicated Voivod fanboy. Not that I enjoy all their stuff. I consider Dimension Hatr�ss, Nothingface and The outer Limits to be undisputed masterpieces and I�ve rated them all 5 stars on PA. Three of my favorite albums ever. I�ll re-write my PA reviews before posting them here on MMA though as they were some of my first reviews written for PA and they are not very good. Killing Technology is an excellent albums too and Angel Rat is pretty good as well. The rest do not live up to the standard of those 5 magnificent albums but some of the other albums are pretty good too.


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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 5:31pm
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:



Well, let's say that Mariusz Duda takes far less risks than Labrie : his singing is almost whisper-like and I can't sense any originality in his voice (sort of Wilson-like, wearisome and irritating). You can't deny that Labrie delivers some awesome singing on 'images and words' (that was a huge improvement on the bland Dominici) or you must be really deaf or abhor high-pitched vocals. I saw both bands on stage : I cannot say I got bored during the DT shows (I saw them twice), while there were moments when boredom grabbed me during the riverside show (which was not metal at all).


In my case, it's actually neitherWink. My hearing is very good, and one of my favourite singers of all time is Glenn Hughes - whose voice tends to be quite high-pitched, as I am sure you know very well. I just don't like LaBrie's style, even if on Images and Words his vocals are tolerable in comparison to the rest of the band's output. I suppose it all boils down to personal taste.


Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 15 May 2010 at 7:29pm
And here I thought my hearing was good too, hmm . . .  Ermm-wha?
Over 30 years listening to Heavy Metal and collecting Albums = an experienced skilled labourer Wink.
I think something has been happening here at MMA too, knowing "music terminology" automatically
makes you an "expert" on what "Heavy Metal should sound like", well I dont have a tin ear and I do
play Guitar, even though I cant read like most Guitarists or play (most) others music, but I can
improvise my own . . . and I think thats more original (thats what folks keep telling me Embarrassed).
Most of what I play is influenced by Metal, but by no means is it conventional.

And Raff, how DARE you! "Personal taste"!? TREASON!!! LOL

I like Duda and Wilson very much, and I was actually upset that DT let Dominici go because I
purchased WDADU when it debuted.  But I acknowledge now that LaBrie "is" (imo) the voice
of DT.  But I would never call Dominici's voice on that album bland, it was his vocals that set
the tone for all the musicianship on their 1st outing for me.
Glenn Hughes laid down some varied styles with Coverdale in the Deep Purple days, and
his work with (2?) Iommi and Sabbath, I like him very much.
To me its all more a variety for Heavy Metal, its either I like or do not like . . . thats all Big smile.

But hey, Lucas, to each his own Wink.


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 16 May 2010 at 6:42pm
Hey prog metal fans, anyone heard the russian band Mechanical Poet. On the fabulous french website guts of darkness their music is described as a cross between 'Harry Potter' and Pain Of Salvation, which is quite fair as they have a strong symphonic side on one hand and the vocalist switches easily from "quiet' to "harsh" and the "metal" music (as opposed to the symphonic one) bears some similarities with PoS on the other hand. I quite enjoy their album 'woodland prattlers' (I listened to it twice during my jogging)







Not sure their other albums are on par with this one.




Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 17 May 2010 at 2:13am
^I know Mechanical Poet. Their debut album is pretty good.

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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 21 May 2010 at 5:13am
Prog metal is as good as metal gets
 
best bands are
 
DREAM THEATER
RIVERSIDE
PAIN OF SALVATION
QUEENSRYCHE
BELIEVER
OPETH
SHADOW GALLERY
 


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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 21 May 2010 at 9:23am
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

Prog metal is as good as metal gets
 
Some of the best bands are
 
DREAM THEATER
RIVERSIDE
PAIN OF SALVATION
QUEENSRYCHE
BELIEVER
OPETH
SHADOW GALLERY
 
 
Edited Wink Tongue


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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 21 May 2010 at 11:16am
Isn't Believer a thrash metal band ?
 


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 23 May 2010 at 3:56am
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Isn't Believer a thrash metal band ?
 
yeah definitely but they are progressive thrash. On the PA they are listed and I have heard their more progressive songs such as the violin heavy track on the second album.  

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 24 May 2010 at 2:57pm
What do you guys think of the new Pain of Salvation album? 

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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 11:59am
Sounds very emo, a cross between Coldplay and Talk Talk (at least the only song I heard from them, see below). This performance was made during semifinal for EUROVISION (!!!!!) : from the obscure prog/alternative metal band to the mass appealing pop band ???? 
 
 


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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 1:29pm
Yeah but . . .

You know, I had this idea, that if I had a Metal Band (Math Metal or Prog Metal), "we'd" write "1 Pop song" and that would "bring in a revenue" and exposure, but the rest of our material would be aggressive complex "Metal".  I'm sure this has happened before (The Band Filter comes to mind).

But the thing is with PoS, we know their history of Music, this is a way to expose the "heart" of the band that is more aggressive, but they are a band that never shyed away from ballad-like songs, usually they'd get a bit aggressive or "musical" within it.  I'm actually on the mailing list of Eurovision as well, have you "seen" and heard the other bands, all the damned cliche's about "Euro Groups" musically and the way they dress! Like an East German Block/Soviet 1980's Band! LOL What decade is it again?

As far as the new stuff, I have not heard the "Album" Road Salt, I heard the EP on my fave Internet Station and its like Queensryche becoming a "Grunge" Band (Post-"Promised Land), and I hope they dont end up like QR . . . Losing the brightness, musicality and power they once had.  I was VERY dissapointed with what I've heard on (PoS) the EP.
I hope the Album will be "different", but the power of PoS. Smile


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 2:46pm
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Sounds very emo, a cross between Coldplay and Talk Talk (at least the only song I heard from them, see below). This performance was made during semifinal for EUROVISION (!!!!!) : from the obscure prog/alternative metal band to the mass appealing pop band ???? 
 
 


Emo? Nah... the whole album sounds like a cross between 70's blues rock and modern pop/rock.

I'm pretty dissapointed by it... I loved all of their other albums, but this one just doesn't cut it for me.


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Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: 25 May 2010 at 3:02pm
Anyone like Rinoa?

Often labelled Post-Hardcore but their new album is long, technical, expansive and atmospheric.


Posted By: Darksideof
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2010 at 11:22am
Thanks to Dream Theater I had become a metal fan and a progressive Metal fan as well
these are the that I really dig:
Opeth ,Zero Hour Specs Of Pictures, Winds ,VoiVod , Angra ,Fate Warning, Pain Of Salvation ,symphony X ,Tool, Van den Plas Hourglass, KnightArea, Circus maximum, Stratovarius, sieges even, spepheric universe expe, and Riverside maybe few more but my memory fails me.


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Posted By: Sleeper
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 12:52pm
Love the new PoS album myself, not their best but miles better than Scarsick. It shows a huge change in direction but keeps a lot of the old PoS traits as well.


Posted By: Darksideof
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2010 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by Sleeper Sleeper wrote:

Love the new PoS album myself, not their best but miles better than Scarsick. It shows a huge change in direction but keeps a lot of the old PoS traits as well.
Nice to hear that I will check it out. I liked Scaresick actually  I like them all. POS is quiet of the best band outthere right now.


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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 28 Jun 2010 at 10:45am
Originally posted by Darksideof Darksideof wrote:

Originally posted by Sleeper Sleeper wrote:

Love the new PoS album myself, not their best but miles better than Scarsick. It shows a huge change in direction but keeps a lot of the old PoS traits as well.
Nice to hear that I will check it out. I liked Scaresick actually  I like them all. POS is quiet of the best band outthere right now.


I love Scarsick (I used to hate it, but I think it's a masterpiece now), and I've grown to love Road Salt One as well. RS1 is the weakest POS album to date in my opinion, but it's still a solid 4 star album from me. I can't wait until M@X implements non-metal reviews so I can post my review here at MMA.


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Posted By: LittleBig
Date Posted: 18 Jul 2010 at 10:02am

Threshold is my favourite progressive metal band; such a shame Andrew McDermott gave up on them; albums like Hypothetical, Critical Mass, Subsurface are almost flawless, to me at least. Smile

other bands i often listen to - DT (especially the albums with Kevin Moore), Shadow Gallery, Circus Maximus, Riverside, Queensryche, Fates Warning, OSI, Redemption, Ark, Enchant, Psyco Drama, Thought Chamber, Sieges Even, Subsignal (from the ashes of Sieges Even), Psychotic Waltz/DeadSoul Tribe, Conception, Mindflow, Evergrey, Vanden plas, Dark Suns, Darkwater.
 
and i'm sure there are more...LOL


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 10:35am
I quite like Arena too especially "Peppers Ghost" album.
 
Anyone like Devin Townsend?
'Ziltoid',  'Terria'...
Or Ayreon
 
'Human Equation', '01011001',
 
great prog metal


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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 11:18am
Originally posted by AtomicCrimsonRush AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:

I quite like Arena too especially "Peppers Ghost" album.
 
Anyone like Devin Townsend?
'Ziltoid',  'Terria'...
Or Ayreon
 
'Human Equation', '01011001',
 
great prog metal

I love Ziltoid. Thumbs Up


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2010 at 2:10pm
The wacky Ziltoid. What�s not to loveThumbs Up. Great album.

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Posted By: angelmk
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2010 at 9:14am
i liked the new Vanden Plas 

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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2010 at 4:34pm
Prog Metal is great
Right now, my favorite is Opeth
Oh, and Dream Theater is pretty cool


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Posted By: kogaionon
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2010 at 5:57pm
opeth is interesting, but unfortunately their evolution into progressive metal took that "something" away from them that made them tick

dream theater...well, their three last albums sound like their first three or four, but with different riff arrangements

i await the day when i will discover a more interesting band than liquid tension experiment (in my opinion, the most complete progressive metal band...and yes, i am a petrucci fan)

other interesting prog metal that i listen to a lot: necrophagist (brilliant technical death metal band), meshuggah (for their polirithms) and blotted science (started to listen to 'em 'coz of my jarzombek-fan era a while ago)


Posted By: Ulfednar
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 3:19am
Ooh, Liquid Tension Experiment, I love that! 


Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 3:53am
Anybody familiar with Heaven�s Cry ( http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/heavens-cry.aspx?ac=heaven - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/heavens-cry.aspx?ac=heaven )? They are a pretty unique progressive metal act. The melodies aren�t too obvious and their albums takes a bit of getting used to but that�s what I like about them. The three guitarists in the band also gives them quite a unique sound. Oh and I enjoy that keyboards/ synths are only used occasionally.
 
If anyone enjoys Spiral Architect ( http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/spiral-architect.aspx?ac=spira - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/spiral-architect.aspx?ac=spira ), both Twisted Into Form ( http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/twisted-into-form.aspx?ac=twisted - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/twisted-into-form.aspx?ac=twisted ) and Manitou ( http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/manitou.aspx%29might - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/manitou.aspx)might be interesting too. They are related acts. Twisted Into Form is pretty similar in style while Manitou is more like a technical Fates Warning sounding act. Manitou share vocalist with Spiral Architect.


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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:01am
Heaven's Cry = Excellent band and one of my PM favourites.
 
Highly recommended to any fan of PM.
 
Have releases for Spiral Architect, Twisted into Form and Manitou. It's been a while since I gave them a spin, I'll have to dig them out. Thanks for reminding me Jonas Big smile


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:05am

Yeah Heaven�s Cry has been one of my favorite PM bands in the last couple of years too. They deserve much more recognision than they have gotten so far.



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Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:15am
oh and just to add both of Heaven's Cry's albums are available free from their website.
 
Obviously, they would be delighted if you can afford a donation Wink
 
http://www.heavenscry.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 - http://www.heavenscry.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1
 
No excuses to become a fan too now LOL
 
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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:32am
Aw man . . .
Dont get me started on Spiral Architect and Twisted Into Form! Big smile some true "Math Metal" at its best!
(along with Watchtower, Cacophony, To-mera, A ((wake)), Continuo Renacer and many others).
I have still not heard Manitou, but you may want to hear "Scariot" with the SA vocalist on their last
album (I believe).
Still in the works to put up a Tech-Thrash/Math/Death Metal Post sometime before 2012 LOL.
Still need to add my Prog Metal faves here Wink as its my fave genre . . .


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:37am
Yeah now you have the stars to do such thingsSmile
 
Continuo Renacer are a pretty impressive act too. Not many know about them though.


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Posted By: MAVIIIVAM
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:42am
Hahaha! LOL
Really!? We in America would say, "What? I have PULL"? LOL
About Spains "Continuo", I'm telling you, ALL you guys would LOVE the Internet Station I listen to,
if you like Progressive Rock and Prog Metal and all its sub-genres, its a GREAT place to discover
the obscure Wink and talk to the Fans that worship them . . .


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Posted By: Ulfednar
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 8:51am
Any thoughts on Jon Oliva's Pain?


Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 9:04am
Originally posted by Ulfednar Ulfednar wrote:

Any thoughts on Jon Oliva's Pain?


I actually haven't checked that out yet. I absolutely love his stuff with Savatage, though. Thumbs Up


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 19 Aug 2010 at 4:29pm
I love prog metal. Currently listening to Psychotic Waltz and Pain of Salvation.
Thumbs Up


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 3:04am
Psychotic Waltz is a fave of mine. One of the most unique sounding prog metal acts. I saw them live twice ( got two tour longsleeves to prove it Smile) and they were great on stage too. I guess bad promotion and worse distribution killed them in the end ( and something about a law suit from a former roadie if I remember correctly). Really sad they never got the recognision and commercial success they deserved. I�m still dreaming of a reunion.

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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 3:08am
Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Psychotic Waltz is a fave of mine. One of the most unique sounding prog metal acts. I saw them live twice ( got two tour longsleeves to prove it Smile) and they were great on stage too. I guess bad promotion and worse distribution killed them in the end ( and something about a law suit from a former roadie if I remember correctly). Really sad they never got the recognision and commercial success they deserved. I�m still dreaming of a reunion.


That is awesome about the shows!
They are truly a unique band.

Another unique band out there that I've always liked and been digging as of late:
Pain of Salvation! 
Entropia is a brilliant album in particular
Oh, and as always I am an Opeth and Symphony X fanboy LOL


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 3:13am
It�s been a while since I gave Pain of Salvation a chance ( I reviewed the debut album for PA a while back, but wasn�t too thrilled), but I�ll give the albums a spin sometime in the future to see if I dig them better now. Sometimes a little time between listens helps.
 
I�ve listened to a lot of Symphony X but not so much in the last 5 years. I just haven�t been in progressive metal/ power metal mode in a while.
 
Opeth!!! oh sweet lord I love Opeth. Great band.


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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2010 at 3:19am
When I say I'm on a binge I don't lie...I've been listening to Opeth like there's no tomorrow.
One of my top 5 favorite bands, period.
Brilliant!

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