I think for me the main act I always disliked is Pain of Salvation, though I admit it's been a long time since I tried any of their music. The band was a natural stepping stone on my journey through discovering progressive metal and I recall having extremely high expectations of them. But they do little to nothing for me and after trying three albums from them the final straw with them was finding that I enjoyed The Perfect Element Pt 1 the least of the three. 

Other albums that I know are well liked but I hated include:

The latter of these is an album I initially liked but it wore thin for me pretty quick. 

I agree with Roots, I lost interest, too, after repeated listens. The only Sepultura albums I enjoy are Beneath the Remains and Arise. 

I love Pain of Salvation, one of my favorite bands. 

I can't think how I can be useful with this thread, if I don't like a band, I don't complain about it, I just move on. There's so much music to explore and so little time, that is the problem that bothers me. 

LittleBig wrote: Another negative thread, people seem to like them, people like to complain, so what do I know...

Two things:

1. What other thread do you deem to be negative around here?

2. There is only one person complaining in this thread and that is you.

Well, just recently the dumbest concept albums thread...

I'm complaining about people that like to complain, now that's funny.

I think maybe you need to lighten up. There's nothing especially negative about either this or that thread on concept album stories. I see this one as a genuinely curious question and other as providing a bit of amusement. Considering what's going on in the world right now it doesn't hurt to have a giggle about a stupidly amusing concept story.

As for my answer to this question, I think probably Burzum. The highest rating I have for Burzum is 4/5 on Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. My view of most of Burzum's stuff ranges from dislike to indifference.

It's Burzum for me too. My review for Filosofem will sum up why. 

Exactly as they were intended. 

LittleBig wrote: Another negative thread, people seem to like them, people like to complain, so what do I know...

Per above, you've interpreted the intent behind this thread and the other one completely wrong. 

And there is not one word of complaint in my opening post! For your information. 

You're quite welcome to think up some new topics to post yourself if you have such a problem with mine...I'll leave that ball in your court. I look forward to seeing what you come up with. 

If I am misinterpreting your intent, my bad then. Usually these kind of threads get a lot of negativity, there are some on PA forum that went off rails IMO, but that still a rather big community, MMA is smaller, so I hope I am wrong then. 

Ok, challenge accepted, one thread coming up... 

I used to like 80s Manowar for a little while but I lost interest rather quickly. Also over the years their music got less and less interesting to the point that I believe they became a parody of themselves. 

There is also the fact that the band did not have a public statement over the Logan pedophilia scandal, no shock, no criticism, no outrage about it, really? They just announced they had a new guitarist, that's all they did. They could have handle it better and differently. 

They have zero credibility now. 

I kinda agree on PoS, though I honestly have a love/hate relationship with them: I absolutely love Remedy Lane and Be, but Scarsick and In the Passing Light of Day are two of my absolute least favorite prog albums of all time. I also wasn't big on Leprous, when I tried them. Another big one is I really don't like much of what I've heard from Queensryche, and especially wasn't too impressed by Operation Mindcrime or Empire, which are two of their most popular albums.

As someone who used to be a newspaper reporter, I can tell you that bad news sells so much better than good news. People always say they WANT the good stuff, but an issue with a good car crash or massive fire on the front page always sold better than one with "Local man grows unusual-shaped turnip" or "Study shows red tractors really are better than blue tractors" (yeah, it wasn't a big city daily by any means, but still a daily!)

I could start on the bands I dislike, but that would be an enormous list. Meh, I usually hold it back a bit, so here's a few other people sometimes take issue with:

Burzum

Tool

Alice in Chains

Suffocation

Led Zeppelin

Korn

Slipknot

Opeth

KISS

Yeah, too easy...

Instead, here's a few albums from bands I generally like, but not these particular releases:

Megadeth - Rust in Peace

Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast (it's been over-played. I'd rather listen to any other single Maiden album first!)

AC/DC - Black Ice (hang up your guitar Angus, or stick to the old stuff. Malcolm was the song writer)

Slayer - God Hates Us All (I have tried so many times! I just don't much like it)

Sepultura - Roots

Metallica  - Hardwired... To Self-destruct (Too easy to pick the black/Loads/St Anger. This generally gets positive reviews, but I hate it!)

Nirvana - Unplugged (I despise unplugged albums, but this is particularly awful!)

Annihilator - Set The World on Fire

D.R.I. - Thrash Zone (If you're going to call an album that, at least play thrashy songs, and not mid-paced plod!)

Pantera - Far Beyond Driven (Disjointed. I just don't like it.)

Yeah, that's probably enough...

I don't think they had much credibility to start with, but even if they had said "we had no knowledge of what was going on, and we would like to distance ourselves from his actions" it would have helped. Saying nothing almost makes you suspect they knew something, but hadn't said.

It probably doesn't help their credibility that they had songs like this. Just listen to the stupid intro (it's 48 seconds):

I'll skip bands from metal genres I tend to dislike, and just go for bands that I can't get into from my favorite metal genres or albums from bands I like:

Kreator (I like Extreme Aggression and the following few albums are okay, but beyond that I find them pretty meh. With their early stuff, their songwriting style just doesn't work with me, don't seem to have the same hooks that other similar thrash bands like Slayer and Destruction do. Their post 2000's stuff is too slickly produced and melodic death metal sounding for my tastes.)

Post-1988 Iron Maiden (I know this is really going against the grain, but to me it sounds like Iron Maiden followed the AC/DC method after Somewhere in Time. Sorry, just not a big enough Iron Maiden fan.)

Linkin Park - Hybrid Theory (Maybe it's from overplaying it when I was a teenager, but I can't take the majority of these songs anymore. Plus I think the band is at their best when playing electronic/hip-hop infused alt rock like on A Thousand Suns. Also I get sick of people thinking nu metal=Linkin Park or Limp Bizkit, they aren't the only bands to represent it, it's such a varied sub-genre!)

Slipknot - Iowa (I know Slipknot fans often hail this as their best album, but I've never been able to get into it. It lacks the variety of the self-titled and as much as I hate to say it, the lyrics do get in the way. They aren't cheesy, they aren't fun, they aren't intimidating, they're just BAD.)

Metallica - ...and Justice for All (Would be a fantastic album if I could hear the bass)

Black Sabbath - Sabbath Bloody Sabbath (I really like Killing Yourself to Live, and Sabbra Cadabra has a great riff but I don't like the keyboard parts. Other than that it just bores me. I get the feeling they were trying to go for a prog rock sound, which might explain why I can't get into it.)

Living Colour - Vivid (Cult of Personality is a masterpiece of funk metal and metal in general, but everything else on this album pales in comparison. I think Time's Up and Stain are way better.)

Those are the first things to come to mind, off to the reverse thread.

True, but it doesn't seem to get much love online from what I've seen. I'm probably just on the wrong sites (like rym, which I hate but love at the same time for discovering so much music from there)

I actually like that album. Don't LOOOOVE it but it is a pretty good alt metal album.

Can't get into Manowar. I used to hate Opeth but i've come around. Still have some issues though.

Some bands i like OK but find overated: Electric Wizard, Burzum, Ulcerate, Devin Townsend, Rosetta Stone, Tiamat, Mgla, Maudlin of the Well, Savatage etc

I can tolerate almost anything though. Can't even think of anyone else i just can't stand other than Manowar :D

I can understand why Manowar would turn some people off though lol

Another album I thought of is Nevermind. I think that's mostly from straight up overexposure everywhere, as there are a couple songs I do like from that album. I'd just much rather listen to anything off of Bleach or In Utero.

I don't dislike him either but for such a major artist in whatever form he releases under I am surprised I never got into his music more. 

Back in 2011, I was still running and primarily reviewing for Heavy Metal Haven at the time, I remember well what a big deal among the community the release of Deconstruction was. I was never able to get why that was. I enjoyed the album, but found it to have many issues that capped it at a 4 star for me, which is the highest I've ever given anything by Townsend. 

siLLy puPPy wrote: Mgla

I'm more set against Mgla because of how many people run Uada down for being a Mgla clone which I just don't find to have a grain of truth to it. 

Same Chris although they have a few songs I do like here and there.

But thrash has never been my main interest so I don't think it that outlandish that I don't rate Slayer too much. 

Controversial and off topic opinion: even though I hold respect for the Big 4 during their classic period, I don't think that in general they did much to cement that legacy after the start of the 90s. Slayer's the only one who didn't at some point abandon thrash. 

That always struck me as ironic since many (especially younger) metalheads hold thrash up as the 'truest' form of metal, but the Big 4 mostly explored other avenues with Anthrax jumping on the groove band wagon and Metallica and Megadeth trying out more commercial heavy metal and hard rock sounds. These bands did eventually return to thrash (an on/off relationship for Metallica), but only after every single one of them had released at least one album that was disliked or even maligned by fans. And that seems to apply to Slayer too looking at their RYM averages. 

Unitron wrote: Where is Roots well-liked? I've seen more dislike than like, online at least, personally I've always really liked it.

RYM seem to like it. Lowest rated Max album, but still, it's got an average of over 3 and that's more than can be said for the the Derrick albums, only the new one of which has a higher average rating than Roots.

https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/sepultura" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/sepultura

Unitron wrote: like rym, which I hate but love at the same time for discovering so much music from there)

A lot of Slayer fans hate both Undisputed Attitude and Diabolus in Musica, which I don't (I hate God Hates Us All which came next!).

LittleBig wrote: I don't consider myself a Slayer fan, I listen to some of their albums, but Diabolus in Musica and GHAA are their weakest works IMO. And the only later day album of theirs I really enjoy is World Painted Blood.

Yes, Diabolus in Musica isn't amazing, but I don't hate it.

World Painted Blood is excellent. I didn't think much of Christ Illusion when it first came out, but I think it is also excellent. I haven't listened to Repentless near enough yet.

 

TheHeavyMetalCat wrote: RYM seem to like it. Lowest rated Max album, but still, it's got an average of over 3 and that's more than can be said for the the Derrick albums, only the new one of which has a higher average rating than Roots. https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/sepultura" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/artist/sepultura

That's true, and for a alt/nu metal album that's an excellent rating by rym standards.

I like making lists, just for the fun of it, and there's a few nice people on there who genuinely love music but it's definitely a minority. It's almost like many of the users actually hate music, and only listen to certain music to boost their ego rather than actually enjoy anything.

The voting's horrible and incredibly inconsistent. 70's metal is a great example, there's a weird amount of people (Black Sabbath fanboys I'm assuming) who will vote down metal on anything early 70's or before that's not Sabbath and sometimes go to such lengths as creating spam accounts to do so. (Look at all the banned accounts with similar names that have voted down metal on a few Blue Cheer singles for proof) Also there's of course the classic "Oh they're most known for this genre, so all their releases must be!". There's countless examples of that.

It really bothers me that Satori only has Heavy Metal down as a secondary on it. If I had to pick one album to firmly place in 70s metal canon it would be that one. 

The trouble I've found with RYM more recently is that there are generally correct with their votes, often enough that when they do call something weird it can really throw you. That's why I always say if using it as an MMA resource now is to see if there are any comments on the votes. They are often more telling than the votes themselves. RYM'ers tend to hate someone trying to change the direction of a vote that has already gained support and will just vote against any changes blindly, regardless of comments left, yet not offer any argument themselves. 

Having seen Sepultura with Green fronting a couple of times in the last couple of years, have ignited my interest in the Green-era albums. My interest in Sepultura had originally ended with Chaos A.D. (I didn´t even listen to Roots before after some years after its release), so it wasn´t because Green became the vocliast that I wasn´t interested in their music anymore. It was their stylistic change which meant I wasn´t interested anymore back then. I´ve learned to accept and enjoy more groove oriented music more over the years though, and therefore I´ve begun to investigate the Green-era albums now.

I think it's a relatively new addition (Don't remember it when I first joined), so hopefully over more time it'll get more populated.

Regarding Green-era Sepultura, I've only heard a few albums. I remember Against being pretty good, The Mediator bored me, and Machine Messiah was excellent and very eclectic. I haven't heard the new album, but I'm waiting for a Sepultura mood to hit.

A thing with RYM is that they've been working toward splitting their music and movie sides (as well as adding a gaming platform) into separate sites and features added to RYM itself seem to get overlooked. And these new sites seem to be taking forever to be properly launched. They've been going on about them for years now. 

I haven't looked at them too much myself. The new sites have better filter options on charts which I look forward to making use of but aren't much use for now while the beta sites are based off of long out of data RYM data. 

Boy the folks at RYM sound like fucking idiots from the way you guys are describing them. I've never used the site so I can't say so myself. Anyways..

I suppose Staind might be a good example...I'm not entirely sure. At any rate, I'm not that huge on them. At least, I don't remember enjoying them!

Not all of them are, most I think just vote for whatever's green or in the lead at the time though. At least I know that trying to change the direction of a vote or even add a new tag is very rarely well received by the userbase, no matter how much justification you post for it in the comments (the exception being when a whole new tag appears on the site for the first time, like Post-Metal, but that's other issue with their voting habits entirely). Your changes will just get voted down and your comments lucky if you even get any counterargument against them. I think best I've ever got is 'nah'. Worst I got was rudeness and accusations of vote rigging, which I did not do. That was from the same person who verbally attacked the community of my website for no reason one time. 

Sometimes I wonder if I just perceive music differently to most, because sometimes I feel like RYM is really voting against the blood obvious. 

I'm sure the majority of the users are also pretty nice people though - just people with some really funny ideas on what music is and how it should be graded. Specifically 'enjoyment' doesn't seem to come into it and I was once even told in not so many words that if I gave something 5 stars in a review I needed cap my ratings for a while before awarding another one. 

There's a few users that as collabs we've learned never to trust the votes from. I won't name them here on the public forums (though will confirm it's no one also on MMA), but it wouldn't take much observation of the votes to at least see who the number one not to ever trust is. 

I know I do, considering that I find most 60's/70's heavy psych to just be metal as well as being one of the only people who considers Meshuggah a nu metal band. 

That's the thing about classifying music in general, with something so subjective pretty much everyone's going to hear at least some things differently. I think RYM forgets that and gets really hung up on genres, but at the same time not caring enough to give an actual argument if they vote something down as you say. 

Psydye wrote: I suppose Staind might be a good example...I'm not entirely sure. At any rate, I'm not that huge on them. At least, I don't remember enjoying them!

I haven't heard them in years, I remember liking some of their stuff. I'll have to check out the Tormented album again sometime.

Another one for me would be Rage Against the Machine. Could never stand Morello's solos and always found him obnoxious. They pretty much lost all their appeal after I was 16 or so.

I know that Dimebag was a great guitar player, and Phil Anselmo is an excellent vocalist - I actually like his other projects, as Down and Scour. But I never really liked the Pantera songs.

Guns'n'Roses.

When I was a teenager, all my friends seems to love Guns'n'Roses... I only thought it was okay, and don't care for most of their songs.

Manowar.

Some good songs here and there, but their music is too boring for my ears.

...actually I feel that way about most of the output of Judas Priest, which is otherwise almost universally praised. I enjoy the first two albums a lot, but after that it´s pretty much select tracks (like Painkiller...), and the rest never did much for me. That doesn´t mean I think it´s bad quality music, it´s just not my poison. 

Like I said, I'm not huge on Staind. Not big on Sevendust, Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach either. Don't really like Epica and almost any "typical" Beauty-and-Beast-style symphonic metal bands. Not much else I can think of atm but if I think of any I'll let you know.