Symphony X appreciation
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Topic: Symphony X appreciation
Posted By: flowerpower
Subject: Symphony X appreciation
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 5:50pm
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Lets give it up for the real kings pf Progressive Metal. Which do you prefer: the very neo-classical SX, or the more riff/guitar orriented Paradise lost stuff? Thoughts on the new album? Which album is your favorite? Let your love for Symphony X be known here. |
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 6:32pm
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Neo-classical SX. I kind of disliked Paradise Lost to be honest. ------------- 
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 7:10pm
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I'm not a fan, but I enjoy their albums from time to time. My favorite is The Divine Wings of Tragedy, but I also enjoy some other albums.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2010 at 9:29pm
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LOVE the band! One of the top 5 favs I don't like their first one so much...outside that I like it all. Divine Wings, Inferno and Paradise Lost all get 5 stars from me. I can't decide which is my favorite, it jumps between the 3. To answer your question...hmm, that's hard. If someone held a gun to my head I'd say the more riff/guitar oriented style....but really I can't decide! ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 12:13am
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http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/symphony-x--the-odyssey.aspx - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/symphony-x--the-odyssey.aspx is my favorite, but I enjoy http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/symphony-x--twilight-in-olympus.aspx - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/symphony-x--twilight-in-olympus.aspx and http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/symphony-x--the-divine-wings-of-tragedy.aspx - http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/symphony-x--the-divine-wings-of-tragedy.aspx a lot too.
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 12:35am
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I won't lie...I am quite a Symphony X fanboy (Hell they were like the first ever proggy metal band I knew!) Only bands that rival my fanboyism for it are SoaD and Opeth  ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 1:19am
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I wouldn�t exactly call myself a fanboy, but they�ve made some really great progressive power metal albums. One of the leaders of that genre and deservedly so. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Colt
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 2:23am
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1. The Odyssey
2. TDWOT
3. V: The New Mythology Suite
4. Paradise Lost
5. Twilight In Olympus
Not a fanboy but a great band nevertheless!
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 2:34am
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I also never knew what to label them as! I just have em as prog metal, but I don't think that's quite appropriate. Neither is Power Metal. Not sure about symphonic metal... Regardless I love em! They also stopped by my local record store once, got to see em and they all signed my copy of "Paradise Lost"  ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 7:52am
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I have "Paradise Lost", and I quite like it - it's not too cheesy. ------------- 
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 10:08am
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^I�d strongly recommend getting The Odyssey too then. It�s also a really hard hitting progressive power metal album too.
...and in the case of Symphony X in general I wouldn�t say they are very cheesy on any of their releases. With a vocalist like Russell Allen that�s simply not possible. He is pretty raw now isn�t he? ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 10:14am
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I've been considering buying some more of their stuff, and I probably will - but for the time being I have plenty of metal albums in my collection that I haven't even heard yet, so it'll have to wait. And I agree that Russell Allen has a quite raw voice; he also reminds me a bit of Ronnie James Dio at times.
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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 10:27am
You can loan every album by the band in the Danish library system if you want to check some of them out before purchase. It�s one of my favorite ways of getting to know artists. I think I own only 20% of the albums I review. Many of the other albums I review are loans from the library. If no one else wants to loan an album it�s possible to loan it for up to 6 months at a time. And that�s for free ( which you already know, I just added this so people who don�t know Denmark understand). Now that�s one of the reasons we pay taxes as high as we do. To get free metal .------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 3:44pm
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Oh yeah... I haven't used a generalist public library in Denmark in a decade now; working in Academia, I've primarily used university libraries, because the public libraries never had the kind of books that I am looking for. I don't even know how it works now - you can now use your "CPR Kort", right? The "l�nerkort" don't exist anymore. Maybe I'll do that... -------------
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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2010 at 5:20pm
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UMUR wrote:Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2010 at 1:09am
Wow you�re kiddin� me man!!! The Danish Library system is like the greatest goldmine. They have tons ( and I mean thousands) of metal albums in the archives and of course lots of albums in other genres too. Even some pretty obscure ones like Magma ( only a few but still). And yes you use your "Sygesikringsbevis" to loan the items. The loaner card went out the door about 10-15 years ago
 . There was quite a revalution happening about 5-10 years ago when it became possible to loan music from all libraries in Denmark via Bibliotek.dk. Before that you were only allowed to loan music related items from your local library. Now that was a day of joy.This is the place to go http://bibliotek.dk/ - http://bibliotek.dk/ . Just feast on that collection. Now that�s what I call awesome
I chose the heavy metal tag and made a broad search and the libraries latest purchases comes up first and there was the new Enslaved just as an example of what they have. There�s a small catch though. You�re only allowed to loan new albums six months after the official release date.
http://bibliotek.dk/vis.php?origin=musik&field6=forfatter&term6=&field2=forfatter&term2=&field3=person&term3=&field4=titel&term4=&field5=htitel&term5=&field1=fritekst&term1=&cclbuf=%28lme%3Dheavy+metal+ikke+em%3D%3Fskoler%29&divbuf=Heavy+metal&field_genre=&term_genre=%28lme%3Dheavy+metal+ikke+em%3D%3Fskoler%29&mat_text=&mat_ccl=&term_mat%5B%5D=%28ma%3Dlm+ikke+ma%3Dmu%29 - http://bibliotek.dk/vis.php?origin=musik&field6=forfatter&term6=&field2=forfatter&term2=&field3=person&term3=&field4=titel&term4=&field5=htitel&term5=&field1=fritekst&term1=&cclbuf=%28lme%3Dheavy+metal+ikke+em%3D%3Fskoler%29&divbuf=Heavy+metal&field_genre=&term_genre=%28lme%3Dheavy+metal+ikke+em%3D%3Fskoler%29&mat_text=&mat_ccl=&term_mat%5B%5D=%28ma%3Dlm+ikke+ma%3Dmu%29
Oh and sorry for hijacking the thread. The subject is of course still Symphony X awsomeness. Just wanted to make a recommendation to my Danish friend. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: 16 Oct 2010 at 7:21am
Symphony X are excellent and fave album is definitely the latest. Paradise Lost
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Posted By: zhang01
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2010 at 1:27am
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My favorite is The Divine Wings of Tragedy, but I also enjoy some other albums. ------------- http://www.coach7stores.com/ - Coach Outlet http://www.nike2us.com/ - Cheap Jordans |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 12:36pm
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Open for all to discuss... Anyone think Power Metal isn't the best fit for Symph X? Symphonic or Prog metal may be a better fit IMO. ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 12:52pm
They're progressive power metal IMO. I think symphonic and power metal are (in most cases) almost identical genres. ------------- Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 1:20pm
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^I agree with Jeff. Progressive Power Metal. I think power metal is a really good fit as I find that their music have more similarities to US Power Metal ( attitude/ image, lyrics and also music) than to progressive metal. There�s no doubt they are progressive though. ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2010 at 8:17pm
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Ah. That's just where I'm a stickler....I don't do progressive "x" metal. That's why I just have em labeled as prog metal And true, I know you've said before you see a distinction between US power metal and the other kind. I guess it's not a big deal. I just see a good amount of neo classical and prog is all. All I know is they are an amazing band! I believe they are working on a new album. Can they possibly score a 3rd masterpiece in a row!? ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2011 at 7:04pm
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I just got V for Christmas, and I am really enjoying it. -------------  |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 5:08pm
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Going to see them in April! Can't wait! Also with them is Nevermore, another of my favorite bands, and Soilwork....though I'll just block them out. I am so excited. Been listening to Symph X a bit lately and I still love them. All their albums are good, except the first one which has great music but the vocals KILL it! They need Russel Allen to redo the vocals for that album and it would be superb. ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2011 at 5:14pm
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Where are you seeing them? ------------- |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2011 at 2:19am
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I wish they would come to Denmark. I haven�t had the chance yet to see Symphony X ( Or Nevermore for that matter, which is even worse for me). ------------- http://www.lyngby-boldklub.dk/" rel="nofollow - Forever TRUE - Forever BLUE! https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: martindavey87
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 5:30am
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Posted By: The Block
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 8:30am
^ I'm guessing DT is your favorite? 
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Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 17 Jan 2011 at 8:46am
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The second prog metal band I ever got into! Love 'em. Favorite albums: 1. Paradise Lost 2. V 3. Divine Wings of Tragedy 4. The Odyssey 5. The other 3 (weren't as good
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:12am
In New York City. Sadly, we can't meet up in Philly...though my cousin is seeing them there. For someone who never gets out to concerts I shall see Agalloch and Symphy X/Nevermore in a short span! Sorry to hear man  I'm quite excited for Nevermore as well. One of my favorite bands, though was a bit disappointed with the newest album. ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2011 at 3:13am
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One of my absolute favorites by them, and the definition of "prog metal" ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Andyman1125
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2011 at 5:28pm
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Love that Duology (Part II on The Odyssey is amazing too) ------------- http://bit.ly/kZR7BC" rel="nofollow"> http://andywebb.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - My Bandcamp
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 1:04am
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I have Odyssey and Paradise Lost and I enjoy them both. Not really looking to get any more from them, but certainly a band with worthy musicianship. I guess power metal generally my favorite though anyway, but SX is hardly a standard power band.
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Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2011 at 6:39pm
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To me, the best thing about Symphony X is Russell Allen. Not that the songs or the musicians in the band aren't really good, it's just that to my ears Russell Allen is what makes a potentially good band great! The first Symphony X album I ever heard was Twilight In Olympus. Now, I know that this album is considered a low point in their catalog, but it was my introduction to the band. Russell Allen's voice was mind-blowing! He's like a blend of Steve Walsh (Kansas) and Ronnie James Dio! His range and delivery were, and still are, spine-tingling! Years ago I wrote a review of a Jorn Lande album for Digitalmetal.com and in it I made the statement that both Jorn and Russell Allen were future legends in the Metal world. Years later, Frontiers Records graced us with the first Allen Lande album, IMO proving me right. The Damnation Game is probably my favorite album. ------------- http://www.facebook.com/FinalSignOfficial" rel="nofollow - FINAL SIGN - US Power Metal |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 25 Jan 2011 at 11:42pm
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Yeah Allen is one of my favorite vocalists period. And if anyone needs proof of his significance...listen to their first album! The music is pretty awesome but the vocals are horrid. Oh, and as for Symph X being power metal...it is something I could never really stomach. Prog metal for sure, IMO (granted with some power elements). ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 9:49am
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Yeah, the vocals on that first album are pretty terrible. Russell Allen elevated their appeal 1000x, IMO.
As for Prog vs. Power, I'm kind of on the fence. They certainly have strong roots in neo-classical Power Metal, but they do inject a certain degree of technical prowess into the arrangements at times. In spite of that, I can't quite place the Prog Metal tag on them exclusively...but they sure don't sound like Helloween...haha! ------------- http://www.facebook.com/FinalSignOfficial" rel="nofollow - FINAL SIGN - US Power Metal |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 10:52am
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Yesterday I was listening to a local Michigan band called Adenalin that used to be really big here in the early to mid-80's with local radio play and TV appearances. I wasn't quite old enough to see them play in the local bars back then. At any rate, their guitarist's name is Michael Romeo. They later went on to form a band called DC Drive. I read somewhere that Symphony X's Michael Romeo got his start with DC Drive, but I think that this was wrong and that they are two different guys. -------------
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Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 2:29pm
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We've (my brother, friend and I) always contemplated writing them asking to do a re-master of the debut album. Or at least just have Allen re do the vocals with his own. Would be a thousand times better! The music is pretty cool but I can't even listen to it... ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 2:43pm
Like how Iced Earth did Days Of Purgatory...just re-record old vocals... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/FinalSignOfficial" rel="nofollow - FINAL SIGN - US Power Metal |
Posted By: The Angry Scotsman
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 2:45pm
Did they? Honestly I know little of Iced Earth. But yeah, Symph X + Allen on vocals would make that album loads better. Also, another of my favorites. The re-done version with Allen! So awesome. ------------- Megadeth, Metallica, Slayer and Testament. The real Big Four of thrash metal! Listen to doom metal, worship Satan |
Posted By: Pelata
Date Posted: 26 Jan 2011 at 3:12pm
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yeah, on Days Of Purgatory, John Schaffer took tracks from the first 2 albums without Matt Barlow, plus demo tracks from when IE was called Purgatory, and had Matt Barlow re-record the vocals...IMO it improved the songs because before Matt Barlow, I could not get into IE because of the bad vocals... ------------- http://www.facebook.com/FinalSignOfficial" rel="nofollow - FINAL SIGN - US Power Metal |