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arcane-beautiful
MMA Metal Reviewer Joined: 07 Apr 2010 Location: Newry Status: Offline Points: 162 |
Topic: Jethro Tull Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 6:20pm |
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come on...these dudes are a hard rock band with folk influences...makes sense doesn't it.
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Triceratopsoil
MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4197 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 6:23pm | ||
Despite having won best metal performance, I think we had this discussion before and decided that they really only have 2-3 songs AT MOST on any particular album that you can even call hard rock. Not a fit, sorry.
edit: the previous thread from 2010 isn't very helpful as that was before we added the Hard Rock subgenre, but when we added the hard rock sub there was some kind of discussion in the collab zone. I'll see if I can find it. Edited by Triceratopsoil - 18 Jun 2012 at 6:33pm |
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Triceratopsoil
MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4197 |
Posted: 18 Jun 2012 at 6:34pm | ||
I found some discussion on the last page of "controversial subgenres" thread stickied in this section:
Both Certif1ed and (former collab) Cannon outright rejected them for proto-metal. There actually aren't any posts about them in the hard rock thread; the discussion I was referring to is quoted above. Not a single collaborator has at any point posted in favor of adding them. I hope that helps. Edited by Triceratopsoil - 18 Jun 2012 at 6:35pm |
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UMUR
MMA Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 18095 |
Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 4:54am | ||
I think that pretty much sums it up Colin. It�s my sensation that most Collabs don�t consider Jethro Tull a "hard rock" act even though some of their material could be clasified as such. They�ve never released a fully fledged hard rock album though and that�s the deciding factor. Unless someone want�s to comment more on this, this thread will be locked. I�ll wait about a week to do it though.
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Tupan
MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Location: Brasil Status: Offline Points: 1623 |
Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 6:49am | ||
^I think you can close this thread. Jethro Tul, is not HR IMO.
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J-Man
MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7032 |
Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 7:14am | ||
I could see Aqualung maybe having a case for proto-metal (mainly for the title track and "Cross-Eyed Mary"), but the rest of their discography doesn't seem fit for hard rock or proto-metal IMO. Even that album is fairly borderline.
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dtguitarfan
MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: 19 May 2012 Location: Chattanooga, TN Status: Offline Points: 481 |
Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 7:38am | ||
Yeah, I love me some Jethro Tull, but I don't think they belong on this site, sorry.
Edited by dtguitarfan - 19 Jun 2012 at 7:38am |
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Sheavy
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Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 1:27pm | ||
Some of their non Prog albums could qualify as Hard Rock, but overall no.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 6:01pm | ||
The problem with that theory is more of the album is gentle acoustic guitar and flute than anything else. |
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UMUR
MMA Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 18095 |
Posted: 19 Jun 2012 at 11:58pm | ||
I think the question is if they are not just "rock" and not "hard rock" and as mentioned above those albums need to be fully fledged hard rock albums to be added to MMA. Hard Rock is a borderline metal sub genre as it is. We�re not interested in bringing in borderline hard rock acts to the site. ...If anyone wants to suggest Jethro Tull for hard rock I think they should suggest them in the hard rock team thread with a link to this thread. It is after all that team who decides if they want to add Jethro Tull or not. ...the reason I wanted to lock the thread was because I thought they had already been rejected but now I�m suddenly not so sure.
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J-Man
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Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 7:58pm | ||
Yep, I'd probably agree with that. |
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 10:52pm | ||
It seems they haven't formally been evaluated for hard rock, just rejected for proto- and I think trad too |
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Nick Dilley
Forum Senior Member Joined: 19 Jun 2012 Status: Offline Points: 145 |
Posted: 20 Jun 2012 at 11:11pm | ||
Tull is early prog, come on!
The Goo Goo Dolls had a few heavy songs on their first album, does that mean they belong on MMA? I'm not being facetious, just asking. Every now and then bands will dabble in heavier sounds, but that doesn't mean they are metal. And I say this as someone who is very familiar with metal, but not a metal "snob." I dunno, just my opinion. :) |
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Time Signature
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Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 1:34am | ||
I would actually not be opposed to considering perhaps possibly re-evaluating Stand Up for inclusion under proto - the rest of their discography could easily be tagged non-metal.
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UMUR
MMA Special Collaborator Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 18095 |
Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 2:33am | ||
Well...if the hard rock team wants to evaluate on Jethro Tull, it�s their call.
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Kingcrimsonprog
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Posted: 21 Jun 2012 at 6:11am | ||
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Colt
MMA Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: 26 Mar 2010 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 6668000 |
Posted: 22 Jun 2012 at 3:09am | ||
Rejected by HR.
Thanks for the suggestion. Thread closed as per site policy. |
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