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    Posted: 10 Jul 2010 at 8:24am
ŻYWIOŁAK are a Polish band who should find their place here IMO. They are usually described as pagan folk-metal.

Official website: http://www.zywiolak.pl.

Myspace: http://www.myspace.com/zywiolak.

PA entry: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4579.

I've got their album, Nowa Ex-Tradycja, and can provide it if needed.

Best regards,
Bartek


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jul 2010 at 8:41am
Thanks, Bartek! I hope someone sees this and takes the band under their wing, so to speakWink.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2010 at 8:55am
I'll check them out ... since the Folk Metal team is very inactive these days.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2010 at 9:18am
I don't think any of their MySpace tracks sound like metal to me. Better wait for the folk metal team to return from whatever they're doing to check this out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2010 at 9:50am
Is there still a Folk-Metal team here? If this is not the case, before we find some replacements (or additional members), we should probably rely on the judgment of those like Kim, who are willing to listen and evaluate any material at our disposal. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2010 at 10:29am
I guess there's no proper folk metal team, yeah. And I agree about that any collab can freely take a listen and judge (if there's no disagreements from anyone else).

I haven't listened to the band, but once again I provide my statistics if they are of any use:
- the band is in Metal Archives ("psychedelic folk metal")
- the most popular tag in last.fm is "folk", then "folk metal"

Off-topic: I was planning that after I'm done with checking all the black metal profiles I will browse all the folk metal ones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 1:50pm
As I said, I've got their full album at my disposal. If you think the myspace tracks aren't sufficient I will gladly upload it for you. Maybe it'll be more convincing. Just tell me who I am supposed to send it to.

I do believe they should find a place here. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 5:18pm
have often noticed ..after years doing it at PA's that you should never judge a band by the myspace tracks. They often are not reflective of a groups sound.. and our very often geared to being friendly on the ears.. or in some cases.. putting out a wide net to draw listeners in... ie.. highlighting more mainstream aspects of their sound.  What is myspace anyway.. it's advertising.. first rule in advertising... get them interested.. then hit them with the real product. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 5:24pm
in my humble two cents...  in the absence of a team.. and remembering this is a site in the infant stages.  I nominate Scott to be the judge. Tuz..  upload the album and send it to Scott.. if he thinks it belongs here. We'll add it. If Scott declines... I'll be the judge, jury, and executioner.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 2010 at 5:48pm

There was Judge Dredd... now there's Judge Micky ;-)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2010 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

in my humble two cents...  in the absence of a team.. and remembering this is a site in the infant stages.  I nominate Scott to be the judge. Tuz..  upload the album and send it to Scott.. if he thinks it belongs here. We'll add it. If Scott declines... I'll be the judge, jury, and executioner.  


Ok. But... who is Scott? Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jul 2010 at 6:10pm
Rushfan.. you know.. from PA's haha.  Anyhow.. just send it to me and I'll screen it.  You have me curious Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2010 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Rushfan.. you know.. from PA's haha.  Anyhow.. just send it to me and I'll screen it.  You have me curious Tongue


Oh, I thought you meant someone else. I didn't recall Rushfan liking metal. Tongue

Anyhow... just ripping the album to my computer. And check this:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2010 at 5:56pm
Originally posted by Tuzvihar Tuzvihar wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Rushfan.. you know.. from PA's haha.  Anyhow.. just send it to me and I'll screen it.  You have me curious Tongue


Oh, I thought you meant someone else. I didn't recall Rushfan liking metal. Tongue

Anyhow... just ripping the album to my computer. And check this:




downloading now...  and Scott?  Hah.. how do you think has been the Judas Priest champion over at PA's  Scott is metal FIEND!  Yet another reason why I love the guy.  Proggers bore me...  I like people with broad horizons and tastes in music Embarrassed LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Jul 2010 at 6:20pm
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Proggers bore me...  I like people with broad horizons and tastes in music Embarrassed LOL

Welcome to the club. Recently I expanded my musical horizon to reggae (that's the 20th or so musical genre I embrace, but not your usual Bobness, the obscure guys like the excellent keyboardist Jackie Mittoo or the even more obscure Cornell Campbell).

yes, proggers are boring.

Always trying to convince themselves that their music is the best (which is very far from being true) and even wanting to prove anyone else that other musical genres should be regarded as prog (Helloween, Stevie Wonder (!!!), Judas Priest, William Sheller). Why don't they call a cat a cat : Stevie Wonder = black music, Helloween = power metal, Judas Priest = heavy metal, William Sheller = chanson fran�aise...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jul 2010 at 3:14am
Well, true proggers should have broad horizons and tastes in music, given that prog itself is genre-defying, so I guess that the prog-elitists are not true proggers ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 7:20am
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

Well, true proggers should have broad horizons and tastes in music, given that prog itself is genre-defying, so I guess that the prog-elitists are not true proggers ;-)


proggers can actually be of some the most close-minded of musical listeners.

and that is an urban myth..LOL.   prog has BECOME a genre all it's own.. no different from punk, country or reggae.  We all know it.   Prog today is often progby the numbers. Insert song length... some degree of complexity.. and some fruity lyrics and voila.. you have prog.  The great stuff is the stuff that avoids the typical prog convention.. and is.. err.. progressive in it's approach to music. 

However by doing do...  some then can't see it as prog since it lacks....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 7:22am
anyhow.. back on topic.  Listening to this gem of an album this morning. Really liking what I'm hearing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 7:47am
hmmm.... going to listen to this a few more times before offering up an opinion.

To be bluntly honest... my first thought was a no for addition. You sure weren't bowled over by what you think of as 'metal'.    However while listening, I read up on the group a bit and sort of got an understanding of what they are trying to do. Sort of goes back to what I posted earlier about prog by the numbers. Does it have to be complex and have 'whizling synths' ( � Raffaella 2006 LOL) to be prog. Does it have to be guitar based to be metal.

Looks like I'm hitting the books to learn about folk-metal.   I'll be back to this group after some more reading and listening (including some other groups it appears).

Completely enjoyed the music though, whether 'metal' or not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jul 2010 at 8:21am
Since we happen to share the same living quarters LOL, I listened to the album too. Excellent stuff, with the more folk-based parts reminding me of folk music from some areas of Italy. However, I didn't really detect a lot of metal in their compositions, except for one track that was patently riff-based. On the other hand, unlike other metal subgenres, folk-metal does not seem to be as cut-and-dried, and I believe we could do worse than let these guys in. Very interesting music indeed, and an incentive to explore the subgenre further. 
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