Avant-Garde Metal Appreciation Thread

MAVIIIVAM wrote: Ulver, Arcturus and Solefald are awesome!  Heres a few of my faves: Thought Industry. Thought the 1st album is like a Tech-Thrash/Math/Prog Metal album with wild left turns, its the 2nd album that goes totally Avant Garde.  The albums after that sadly start to lose all metal aspects.  Oberland's brilliant Poetry turned into Metal madness are a great read and often hillarious.  But its these 2 albums that were way ahead of their time and over the heads of most . . . maybe still is. (111mzd!). Unfortunately no-one has put-up tracks from "Songs for Insects" but . . . 2nd Album gets more Avant Garde. "Mods Carve The Pig: Assassins, Toads and God's flesh". "Date Rape Cookbook": (Lyrics are also included under Vid at YOUtube).

ok, this song somehow reminded me of Comus - First Utterance at some point

anyway, sculptured sound interesting, thanks for sharing. will download them and start to listen to 'em more closely

Ulver, Arcturus and Solefald are awesome! 

Heres a few of my faves:

Thought Industry.
Though the 1st album is like a Tech-Thrash/Math/Prog Metal album with wild left turns, its
the 2nd album that goes totally Avant Garde.  The albums after that sadly start to lose all
metal aspects.  Oberland's brilliant Poetry turned into Metal madness are a great read and
often hillarious.  But its these 2 albums that were way ahead of their time and over the heads
of most . . . maybe still is. (111mzd!).

Unfortunately no-one has put-up tracks from "Songs for Insects" but . . .
2nd Album gets more Avant Garde. "Mods Carve The Pig: Assassins, Toads and God's flesh".
"Date Rape Cookbook":

(Lyrics are also included under Vid at YOUtube).

"Gelatin":


Sculptured
These guys are all over the place, at times sound like Ulver and Arcturus, and then . . .
something else, can be weird but really neet stuff, not afraid to use "Trumpets and Trombones"
either!
Their 1st "The Spear of the Lily is Aureoled" I have not heard till I put this up, but have read about
it since its release (Much like Opeth's 1st 3 albums, many people talking how different they were)
and now I understand why.
"Almond Beauty":


"Between Goldberg":


"Embodiement of the purest form of horror":

(fine tuning their sound and better engineering)


Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 18 Sep 2010 at 6:19am

MAVIIIVAM wrote: Hmmm . . . I'm a HUGE fan of Fredrik Thordendals Solo Album (he should make more!) but I wouldnt exactly call it "Avant Garde" (imo), the only really thing that is "Weird" about it is the (Harsh)Vocals which may be really irritating to some, but for me the music is just too brilliant.  I'd put it in the Tech-Thrash/Math Metal territory (So I guess that means "Prog Metal" ). The Bonus Track: "Missing Time" really shows his love of Guitarist "Allan Holdsworth" . Actually . . . I'd put Meshuggah's "Catch33" in the Avant Garde catagory for sure!(well . . . it pretty much is all over the place as Metal goes): Be prepared for your Brain to implode in the 7th demension . . .

well, special defects incorporates a lot of things from jazz, classical and opera, things based on the polirithmic layer. in comparison with meshuggah that only use polirithmia, i consider fredrik thordendal much more experimental, therefore putting him in "avant-garde"

ps: i preffer "chaosphere" or "nothing" from meshuggah; personally, i consider "catch33" a rather dull album


Edited by kogaionon - 18 Aug 2010 at 7:00pm

Hmmm . . .

I'm a HUGE fan of Fredrik Thordendals Solo Album (he should make more!) but I wouldnt exactly call
it "Avant Garde" (imo), the only really thing that is "Weird" about it is the (Harsh)Vocals which may be
really irritating to some, but for me the music is just too brilliant.  I'd put it in the Tech-Thrash/Math Metal
territory (So I guess that means "Prog Metal" ).

Here . . .
YOU decide :


The Bonus Track: "Missing Time" really shows his love of Guitarist "Allan Holdsworth" .

Actually . . .

I'd put Meshuggah's "Catch33" in the Avant Garde catagory for sure!(well . . . it pretty much is all
over the place as Metal goes):

Be prepared for your Brain to implode in the 7th demension . . .

Extreee Note: When listening to above track, 1. Hopefully youre into the Avant Garde stuff. 2. be
patient, this album really had to grow on me, and I had to take it out of context of a typical
Meshuggah Album, this was very experimental for them.  The drums were actually "programmed"
by each member but all the sounds are sampled from Haak's Drum kit (), the above Track is
meant to be like a "Trip" . . . where that trip goes, is pretty scary .


Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 18 Aug 2010 at 7:10pm

Oh! and JUST remembered these guys, would be a Triple Threat for a Avant Garde Metal Fest:
"Stolen Babies"
http://www.stolenbabiestheband.com/

Unexpect, Diablo Swing Orchestra and Stolen Babies sure do love mixing Period Popular
Dance Music into their madness !

And I see mention of "Sleepytime Gorilla Museum", not only checkout their music but the
Beautiful Web-sites they come up with for each album! Very clever!
http://www.sleepytimegorillamuseum.com/


Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 11 Aug 2010 at 12:14am

harmonium.ro wrote: Can anyone recommend something similar to Unexpect?

"Diablo Swing Orchestra" !
http://www.diabloswing.com/
Same exact humour and chops, takes weird turns and lots of fun!

I too am a Fan of Fantomas and Mr. Bungle, the weirder it gets the more I like it .
(Hey, if Terry Bozzio can play Drums with them! . . .)


I've got a (ANOTHER) List of Avant Garde stuff to put up soon .

topofsm wrote: I picked up a couple of friends in my car today and I had Bungle's "Carry Stress in the Jaw" playing during a particularly chaotic and very 'noise'-y section towards the end of the first half. They said it was just stupid and picked up my iPod to change it. This coming from a FNM guy who knew Patton was in it. He didn't even try to appreciate it...

I love Faith No More.  I was extremely disappointed with Mr. Bungle and pretty much consider Fantomas to be the worst band/project ever.

harmonium.ro wrote: I don't "like" Mr. Bungle either, but I can't not appreciate what they did. You know that quote "avantgarde music is not pleasant to hear, but somebody has to do it" (or something like that). Can anyone recommend something similar to Unexpect?

I've never heard anything quite like Unexpect, they are insane. 

*bump*
FWIW, I've never had much interest in Mr. Bungle either.