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    Posted: 28 Apr 2010 at 12:54pm
What is a metal forum without a dedicated Black Metal thread? ('tis a hypothetical question but you can answer it if you want)

I was going to write a lengthy soliloquy on my enticement with the sub-genre, but I'll let the 18 000 odd bands, whether they be good, fetid or damned, speak for themselves.  

I'll disclose some of my tastes a little later if this thread takes off the ground.


Edited by Murphy - 28 Apr 2010 at 12:54pm
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OK good idea.
 
I just noticed that Shining is releasing a new album. One of my favorites the last couple of years. Any other fans?
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Frankly speaking, I'm not really familiar with Black Metal. Some consider it a horrible and pointless genre, however I'm pretty interested. Any particular recommandations or masterpieces I should try?
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That´s kind of a broad search. Which bands do you normally prefer?
 
There´s no use in steering you towards the symphonic side of the genre if you´re more interested in the raw old school sound.


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I'll be around this topic a lot, hehe ;-) I might write a long post about it in general some time, but as of right now it's night and soon to sleep.

Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

I just noticed that Shining is releasing a new album. One of my favorites the last couple of years. Any other fans?
Yep, or I'm not sure am I a real fan but The Eerie Cold and Halmstad are really great, and Klagopsalmer is good too. Weird enough, I haven't listened to their first albums much, although in theory I would love them (because there's a bit more "traditional" black metal elements).


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Some of my favourite bands of the genre :





The following is truly bestial :


















for those who don't mind their BM mixed with grindcore :


and this one is interesting as well, somewhere between BM and mathcore :


this one is bestial, sort of martial BM :



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Black metal HeartHeart
One of my favourite genres of metal. I realy enjoy  Wolves In The Throne Room, superb; Weakling, made just one album, it is a masterpiece; also  Dimmu Borgir, Emperor,Gernotshagen, Skagos, Drudkh, Peste Noire, Sigh, Immortal, Enslaved.. 
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Black Metal is one of those genres where when it's done right it's amazing (Sigh), but one when it's done wrong you end up with some of the worst music you'll ever hear (Buio Omega. Planet of Tombs may just be the worst Metal album I've ever heard).
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Originally posted by Vehemency Vehemency wrote:

I'll be around this topic a lot, hehe ;-) I might write a long post about it in general some time, but as of right now it's night and soon to sleep.


I was hoping as such. I've not done much active searching over the last couple of years. Picked up the Ic Rex album you reviewed, but have not had the chance to give it a proper listening yet.

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I struggled with the single Shinning album I once possessed. Brought The eerie cold whence I hit the shelves and sold it shortly after, as I have a wont to do, so I never really gave it a chance. But as the years have gone by my tastes in music have only worsened, so who knows what will grace my ears, with the help of a push and a prod. 
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Originally posted by Murphy Murphy wrote:

Picked up the Ic Rex album you reviewed, but have not had the chance to give it a proper listening yet.
That's been one of my favourites for years, and it's quite a nostalgic experience to go through that album nowadays. Although it's been just 5 years but for my age that is a lot, haha. The second album "Valonkantajan Alkemia" is a masterpiece also but it's no more that noisy (if that's the catch for some people), and it includes real drums. Overall, a bit more traditional black metal album. "Vedenkantaja", the third album, is back to the programmed drums and no noise there also. Does include some beautiful compositions but is overall the weakest IC Rex album.

Not sure what is going on in the IC Rex camp right now, he disappeared from the Finnish black metal forum (where, by the way, most of the Finnish black metal bands seem to be) a year ago and now the website www.icrex.fi is gone. Too bad because the site had English translations of the lyrics. The booklet has them also but the printing sucks so it's really small letters in the booklet, almost unreadable. (EDIT: Oh, Metal Archives seem to include them too!)

I could keep writing about all stuff but now a little break, hah.


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Mmm, listened to the first album today while on the cusp of sleep, not the best way to critic music, but I managed to catch bits and pieces while drifting in and out. For me, at least to a small extent, the 'noise' is a catch, tho' from reading a couple more reviews this facet of his music tends to make many flee with their tale between their legs; silly sods. I like the way the noise almost blurs the structural components; you have to work just a little bit harder to discern the very musical aspects of this album. I like to work for my pleasure. Didn't really notice the programed drums, but then again I do like Summoning.  

Looking into Valonkantajan Alkemia soon.
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guys

i'm about to explore Enslaved, my friend told me that I can go with Ruun first, but judging from this site's review, looks like Isa is a better starter, now I'm curious about how is the description of this band's music because I read somewhere that it has progressive metal element.
Can someone enlighten me a bit? :)

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I really don't enjoy vanilla black metal, I find it boring and derrivative. However I do enjoy metal bands that blend black influences or styles, like Agalloch, Alcest and the likes.
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I like the old Celtic Frost stuff, which is apparently considered black metal, but I've never thought of it as black metal myself. Other than that, I think "Battles in the North"  and I seem to remember liking "Nightside Eclipse", too. Ceremony were also pretty good; they released a couple of black metal demos, and then they started gravitating towards progressive metal. Their demos are hard to come by nowadays, and are probably worth a lot of money.

The vocalist of one of my bands is a big fan of raw and dirty black metal, and he's also an avid vinyl collector, so he has records by a whole bunch of obscure black metal acts from all over the world. Our drummer likes black metal, too, so there are some black metal influences in out own music as well.
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Originally posted by Stephen Stephen wrote:

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i'm about to explore Enslaved, my friend told me that I can go with Ruun first, but judging from this site's review, looks like Isa is a better starter, now I'm curious about how is the description of this band's music because I read somewhere that it has progressive metal element.
Can someone enlighten me a bit? :)


With Enslaved, it really depends on your background. Isa, from what I can tell (from your tastes) would be your safest/best start. This one is close to half half, progressive to black metal influences. If you were interested in a classic Norwegian slant, I'd head straight for Vikingligr Veldi, but I don't think that will work for you.
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i love music that's emotionally powerful, that's the difference with most black and death metal. i grabbed a bethlehem/benighted in sodom 7" spilt last week and listening to it makes me so depressed want to kill myselfClap
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Forgive my ignorance, but why would you want to listen to music that makes you want to kill yourself? 
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well i didn't mean it 100 % literally but what i'm saying is that i like stuff (music, films etc) that's powerful, and that can affect my feeling and mind. i'm not very much into the shallow stuff that doesn't do anything to me. maybe i am a bit weird
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There are certain gems in the depressive / suicidal area of black metal that are really good, otherwise I don't really care about it, especially right now there are millions of worthless bands trying to imitate bands like Shining, Lifelover etc. It's getting ridiculous. Basically every 15 year old black metal fan (sorry my generalization) has its own "depressive black metal" myspace project with a drum machine in the background and then some lazy guitar picking on top. That's how the trends always go, I guess.

Hypothermia is one of the only bands I really dig in this certain style, although from my perspective it's a bit different, in that it creates a void of emotions, a void of everything. It is as stale and pale as music can get, and in that it's somehow beautiful and sick the same time. (I'm particularly referring to the album "Köld" and generally all the material from those years, the newer material is leaning towards more melodic post-rockish stuff which isn't totally bad either.)



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I wouldn't say I'm a fan of the genre as such but I sure love some of the big names there:
Enslaved, Immortal, Satyricon, Darkthrone, Shining, and mutated forms such as Dissection, Agalloch,
Not much into the whole symphonic black metal stuff.
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