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William Shakespeare vs J. S. Bach

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Poll Question: Who dop you consider more of a genius?
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Apart from the fact you cannot compare them, Shakespeare is an undeniable monolithic figure in western literature and society.
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Bach is a musical genius.

Shakespeare is a genius of playwrite.

Those points are both undeniable. It simply boils down to personal taste, and for me, it's got to be Johann Sebastian on this one. Big smile
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Originally posted by thellama73 thellama73 wrote:

Having spent a semester attempting it, I believe that writing a good fugue is much harder than writing a good monologue, but obviously it's a matter of opinion.
 
A monlogue is rather short, I think the comparison would be more easily made to a scene or an act in a play. And, of course, it can be rather simple to write one, but not so much on the intricacy and mastery of language of Shakespeare.
 
I may be a musically oriented person, but I am confounded by Shakespeare's ability do do what he did. I will buffer the bias from this music site a bit by voting for the bard.
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Depends where your talents lie I suppose. I'm a music student so I wouldn't even know where to start with a monologue or soliloquy; however I HAVE written a few fugues in the past, and although incredibly hard (I agree with you on that one), still not as hard as a monologue in my opinion. Whereas I doubt a playwrite would be able to write a fugue very effectively.
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Having spent a semester attempting it, I believe that writing a good fugue is much harder than writing a good monologue, but obviously it's a matter of opinion.
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You can't really compare a Fugue to a play. A Fugue is about 6 pages long, maximum. A play can be a few thousand pages long, so there is no comparison. Comparing an oratorio to a play would be more legit, and I doubt there is a single human throughout history that could improvise either of those things.
 
And Shakespeare could probably improvise a monologue of superb intricacy, which I'd say is about the same magnitude in difficulty to write as a Fugue.
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I am not too much of a fan of either. Shakespeare is often hackneyed and Bach is overly academic. However, when it comes to raw talent, there's no denying that Bach is way ahead. Have you ever tried to write a fugue? It's insanely hard, and this man could improvise them on command. I'd like to see Shakespeare improvise a play off the top of his head.
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So who is more of a genius in your opinion? The Englishman who revolutionarised the English Language, of the German who revolutionarised the tonal system and harmony in music?

Take your pick.

I pick Bach, simply because I can appreciate his work more.
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