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    Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 2:47am
Hi All,

I had noticed certain Bands that folks put up, were wondering what catagory to
put them (some are listed below) . . .

I put together a List of Bands that have more "Complex" Compositions but
are Metal and "Progressive" in nature.  Back in the mid 90's, I heard the term
"Math Metal" for the 1st time, and I think it explains alot.
It also takes care of anything that is Instrumental, Complex, with Melodic
"Clean Vocals", Death "Cookie Monster" Vocals and the Rough Thrash Vocals.
But its all about complexity, crazy time-signatures, odd-meter, progressive
and fusion elements but within a Metal context.

Most of these Bands would probably end up in Prog Metal but may have a
"Sub-catagory" in their descriptions.
Recent Note: Please NOTE I say "would probably end up in Prog Metal", this
would probably be the easiest place to put the Tech Stuff without creating new
sub-catagories in the infantcy of this Forum.
But what do I know . . .

I'll add as well Tech-Thrash, Tech-Death Metal, Tech-Prog Metal where it draws
a fine line, and Math Core. There is a posibility that they could be in various
catagories.  Its just an idea, and to figure out where unusual Bands of this ilk
might go.
If you look at the list, list some of Bands you know of that may fit with others
here.   But saying all that, Prog Metal would suffice.  The Tech-Thrash stuff will
probably just go in Thrash anyways.


Math Metal (Includes Fusion Metal), Tech-Thrash, Tech-Death Metal,
Tech-Prog Metal
, Math Core:

Spiral Architect
Nevermore
Prototype

Meshuggah
Cynic
Gordian Knot
Portal (Cynic Members)
Anubis Gate

Spastic Ink
Watchtower
Pagans Mind
Cea Serin
Dreamscape

Control Denied
Katagory V
Twelfth Gate
Cacophony
7 for 4
Linear Sphere
Blotted Science
Animations
Gaia
To-Mera
Aghora
Continuo Renacer
Andromeda
Circus Maximus

Thought Industry (possibly Avant Garde as well)
Depressive Age
Canvas Solaris
Psychotic Waltz
Darkstar (Psychotic Waltz Guitarists side project)

Behold . . . The Arctopus
Twisted Into Form
Disillusion
Wastefall
Degree Absolute
Zero Hour
Scariot
Cloudscape
Spheric Universe Experience
Thessera

Thought Chamber (Singer of Enchant!)
Fates Warning
The Collins/Wardingham Project
Planet X
Khallis
Mythologic
Zydra
Seiges Even
OHM
Chris Poland (Ex-Megadeth)

Krysalyd
Anacrusis
Exivious
A((wake))
Bulb
Tesseract
Instant Supression
Leprous

Cloudkicker
Koyaanisqatsy
Into Eternity
Scar Semmetry
Animals as Leaders
Dynahead
Kalisia
Menahem
Suspyre
Panzerballet
Atmosfear
Spaced Out
Counter World Experience
Zeroesque
Power of Omens
Realm
Sabbat(u.k.)
-"Mourning has Broken" especially (I'm sure they will be in the Thrash catagory)
Forbidden
Powermad

Obscura
Arsis
Gorod
The Faceless
Necrophagist
Rosicrusian
Believer
Loudblast
Gardenian

Confessor
Darkane
Deathrow
Dllinger Es
cape Plan
Secrecy
I.N.C.

Textures
Theory In Practice

Fredrik Thordendals Special Defects
Alarum
Psytroptic
Neuraxis

Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganza
Toxic
Panic
Paradox

Candiria

Tournaquet
Xentrix

Extol
Ihsahn
Augury

Between the Buried and Me
Leviathan (of Colorado)
Vampire Moose
PsyOpus

Some of these bands I scratch my head as to where they'd exactly fit-in, so forgive.
I'll add more when they pop into my noggin'.  But please add any others you think
of and get them the recognition they deserve.
(Most of these you can check out on YOUtube as well).

Also check these Forums for more awesome Math Metal Madness!
:guitarbang2:
1. Spiral Architect Forum Thread:
http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/spiral-architect/254094-i-need-bands-like-spiral-architect.html
2. PrOgulus Forum Thread:
http://www.progulus.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=451

Big smile


Edited by MAVIIIVAM - 18 Apr 2010 at 5:21pm
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 6:51am
I am sure everyone appreciates the thought and effort gone into this list. However, the site hasn't been around for a month yet, and I don't think that at this point it's a good idea to multiply the genres in a way that some people might find confusing or frustrating. As the site gets established, and the membership grows, we can think about some 'subdivisions' in the extant subgenres like the ones you have suggested. At the moment, though, I'm afraid something like this might scare off prospective members - and let's not forget the lesson we should have learned from PA. Classification definitely has a very important role to play, but let's not have it become more important than the music itself. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote UMUR Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 7:11am
I must say I prefer fewer inclusive subs rather than too many subs that people might not know or find confusing. Some bands are very difficult to put in a box, but in time Im sure all artists will find their right place and then maybe as Raff points out maybe then we should begin thinking about more subs. 
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We can starts making sub-subgenre changes once we've reached a point where we can be 100% satisfied with the current situation of bands and genres in MMA. We're getting there. These kind of changes can occur (if it's agreed upon) when the first, essential part of the MMA-building work has been accomplished. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote MAVIIIVAM Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 2010 at 1:42pm
Thats okay,

Its just that many are calling it "Avant Garde" and if someone wants to check out these "genres",
one may think "Meshuggah" will be like "Mr. Bungle" or visa-versa for example.
Anyway, it was jus a thought.
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By the way,

I'm a bit confused, what catagory would this Fit-in?:


:rofl: :guitarbang2:
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