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Poll Question: A 5 Star Rating Should Be Given When...
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    Posted: 04 Sep 2015 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by Diogenes Diogenes wrote:



I guess I'll go with B.  I don't give 5 star ratings unless the album seems really special to me, but that still doesn't automatically make it perfect IMO.

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^ Not gonna lie, your post moved me, cracked me up and made me feel like I am not alone in this world... It was basically like a good ecchi anime! Thank you!

Also, we just need a color based rating system where anything brown, yellow and green is bad; purple and pink is awesome and lilac is not bad. 
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Originally posted by powermetal2000 powermetal2000 wrote:

I've given out 41 5 stars on MMA out of 1173 ratings made. I subscribe to an always round down policy, so if 4 stars is 80%, 4.5 is 90% and 5 is 100% etc, then something that scores 99% is a 4.5 because 99% is not 100% and therefore doesn't meet the 5 star threshold.

Yeah, but what's the difference between a 99% album and a 100% album? And if you're going to have fractions, then why not have a 0-10 or 0-100 system? Why not 0-1000? Or 666? I've seen such systems. I tried to simplify things myself with a "Yes/Maybe/No" system (as in "is this worthy of my collection?"), but then found myself trying to justify partial ratings, like "yes, if you're completist, but otherwise, maybe..." or "maybe, but you'll only listen to it once or twice", so I gave up.

I like fucking with the rating system on Amazon. If something has lots of 5 stars and not many 1's, I'll go and give it a 1 on purpose, no matter what I think of it. I haven't done that here, because this is a METAL site.Smile

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I round up, but I use a percentage rating too, so it´s obvious that some of my four star ratings aren´t a full four star rating but rather somewhere between 3.5 and 4 stars.
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I've given out 41 5 stars on MMA out of 1173 ratings made. I subscribe to an always round down policy, so if 4 stars is 80%, 4.5 is 90% and 5 is 100% etc, then something that scores 99% is a 4.5 because 99% is not 100% and therefore doesn't meet the 5 star threshold.
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I don't think an album has to be 100% or even 95% to be 5 star, but must be of an overall very high standard. It could even have a track or 2 that weren't that great as long as they weren't too much of the overall playing time. I don't give out 5 stars lightly though. 

Having a rating is useful, not so much for individual reviews, but for example, someone who didn't know much about death metal but wanted to explore it can look at the top list which of course is based on ratings.
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Originally posted by Vim Fuego Vim Fuego wrote:

I used to write for a website which had a bloody stupid 0-100 system, but the way it worked, 75 was average. Have also noticed that magazines with 0-10 systems generally give 7 as average, or 3.5 in a 0-5 system. 

I don't like ratings at all. Readers get lazy and just look at the rating, and writers often prejudge the rating and then write a review to fit it. I reckon if you can't figure out if something is any good or not just from reading the review, then either the reviewer has done a bad job or you're fucking thick. Metal Maniacs magazine used to have ratings free reviews, and it also had the best reviews. Coincidence?

I've been bitching about how bad ratings are for quite some time now, I guess some of our dear forum members may be already fed up with my one-man crusade LOL seriously though, I'm so glad to see you expressing a similar opinion :) I'd get rid of ratings entirely if I could... even though I admit that my views have evolved quite dramatically throughout the years. I tried to justify their existence but in the end I decided they have very few redeeming qualities.

Still, I don't give too many 5-star ratings. Not because I don't think those albums are perfect - nothing is perfect, after all, and sometime imperfections are what makes an album unique. I just rarely like something that much. 
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Ratings are just an attempt to quantify how much you like the album. It's fun, but it's not hugely important. My method is that, if I like, love, adore, dislike, hate, or am indifferent to an album, I rate it accordingly.
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I used to write for a website which had a bloody stupid 0-100 system, but the way it worked, 75 was average. Have also noticed that magazines with 0-10 systems generally give 7 as average, or 3.5 in a 0-5 system. 

I don't like ratings at all. Readers get lazy and just look at the rating, and writers often prejudge the rating and then write a review to fit it. I reckon if you can't figure out if something is any good or not just from reading the review, then either the reviewer has done a bad job or you're fucking thick. Metal Maniacs magazine used to have ratings free reviews, and it also had the best reviews. Coincidence?
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Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

I give 5-star ratings quite a bit, but that's because there are a lot of albums that I find flawless. I went with the second option, seeing as there are a few albums I've given 5-stars that aren't 'flawless' and have one or two weak tracks.

I've never went with percentages, I just go with how I feel about the album and how good it sounds to me. I'll sometimes feel differently about albums and go back and edit or remake reviews, but that doesn't happen very often. 

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Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

I give 5-star ratings quite a bit, but that's because there are a lot of albums that I find flawless. I went with the second option, seeing as there are a few albums I've given 5-stars that aren't 'flawless' and have one or two weak tracks.

I've never went with percentages, I just go with how I feel about the album and how good it sounds to me. I'll sometimes feel differently about albums and go back and edit or remake reviews, but that doesn't happen very often. 

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I give 5-star ratings quite a bit, but that's because there are a lot of albums that I find flawless. I went with the second option, seeing as there are a few albums I've given 5-stars that aren't 'flawless' and have one or two weak tracks.

I've never went with percentages, I just go with how I feel about the album and how good it sounds to me. I'll sometimes feel differently about albums and go back and edit or remake reviews, but that doesn't happen very often. 
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Originally posted by Eria Tarka Eria Tarka wrote:

I use the second option.

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I use the second option.
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To me, there's no such thing as a perfect album, because to me that would be one that fits every mood, playable at any time and that lasts without diminishing returns. Every album I have heard falls into at least one pitfall, however slight. But there's albums that come close to perfect, so all my 5 star ratings are 95-99%.
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Humm, I usually give 5 stars only to something is really perfect.. for me. So I don't really think Perfect is unreachable. What is perfection anyway? It changes from person to person Tongue

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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I have a bad habit of regarding everything I like as perfect or near it, so hard to say Tongue

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I have a bad habit of regarding everything I like as perfect or near it, so hard to say Tongue
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Originally posted by Wilytank Wilytank wrote:

I think it's better to score an album based on its own merit.  I'm not going to preclude an album a 100 just because I didn't enjoy it as much as The Dwelling.


That too.  I always try to review albums in a vacuum, but it's harder than you think if you're actually looking out for it. 
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I think it's better to score an album based on its own merit.  I'm not going to preclude an album a 100 just because I didn't enjoy it as much as The Dwelling.
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