Reviewing non-metal releases is not allowed !

In general, I approve of this system, but the collabs will have to be careful and there are bound to be disagreements.  The example that pops into my mind is Burzum's album "Hli�skj�lf," written in prison without the use of guitars or vocals (see my excellently written review.)To anyone just listening to it, it does not sound metal in the least, but if you know its history and concept, it does seem to very much ft in with the spirit of black metal, if not the sound.

The T 666 wrote: Sean Trane wrote:   2- very few metal bands changed sound or style(unlike prog bands)..... they pretty well stayed metal bands, even if they changed metal style, False. Many metal bands changed their style. But most of the times their core sound remained metal  >> that's what I meant 4- if what I assume in 3- is correct, how do we (and who) discern which albums are metal enough to be reviewed? That's what the teams are for. That's why, and I can't stress this enough, we have to know who people are before we give them this faculty... Reviews and work will let us know who is ready for deciding what is metal and what is not and who isn't >>>> that's a bit what I wanted to know 5- in other wordsif we don't agree about the album tagging and consider an album metallic enough despite the tag, we can't write a review to explain why we think otherwise?In principle, I would agree with that... But if the album's tagged as "nonmetal" then it will be impossible >>> which may lead to misinformation to the newbie, unless goi,g to aoppeal on the collab's unilateral decisions 6- This new rule seems aimed at the proto-metal genre mainly, right???No. It's aimed at bands like Bon Jovi whose last albums are not metal at all, the same as Rush, and many more. It's really aimed at pleasing the fans who come to a metal site expecting to find METAL. Right I forgot about Rush and Bon Anchiove.... 7- If what I assume in 6- is correct, is it to avoid their presence from spoiling the metal contents in the top list ???I'm not sure that's the objective but it certainly is a much welcomed consequence  >>> I'm totally neutral on this, since I don't care about these lists 8- If so, why not just letting this proto-metal genre out of the top list algorythms???Is not only proto-metal that falls under this rule... (in fact, LZ reviews are in the front page). >>> OK, I got it, albums will be prohibited from appearing in top lists, not the group itself... Remember people this site is not PA. Is MMA. Right now most of our members are PA'ers and if we allow it albums that are not strictly metal will end up on the first places of the lists... We have to attract METAL fans... Who can be very specific about their music and who would probably run to metal-archives if they see a review of Bon Jovi's latest release on the front page.

Henry Plainview wrote: Pekka wrote: [QUOTE=Sean Trane] 6- This new rule seems aimed at the proto-metal genre mainly, right??? [/QUOTE] I was coming to ask this as well. Because if not, then albums like Opeth's Damnation should be moved to non-reviewable-non-metal as well (like all unplugged stuff) and I would not like to see that happening. I'm not a metal expert by any means, but I thought it was well accepted that an acoustic album could still be metal. Metal is the chords you play as much as the level of distortion on your guitar.

Yup, I agree with this also...

Let's get this post on the new page in hope of a response ...

J-Man wrote: Nice addition Max!  I do enjoy bashing pop albums at PA, but it is for the benefit of the site after all! Just one question - what if there is already a review present for an album that we want to move to "non-metal"? Would the review go away, or would we not be allowed to move the album's subgenre??? Thanks, Jeff

Raff wrote: Jeff, having moved quite a few albums to NM, I can tell you that I suspect the review would get deleted, unless the person in charge of the operation decided to save it for future use. Unfortunately, only M@x will be able to answer your question with a high degree of accuracy, since none of the albums I moved had any ratings or reviews.

Thanks Raff

Raff is right, when an album will be re-classify to non-metal , we will delete (or hide from the site) and may list it only in the reviewer page (for information only).

Apologies for overlooking your review, since I was the one to move the album. I often have problems loading MMA pages, and was so taken by the task at hand that didn't think of checking if there were any reviews. I'll be more careful in the future, I promise.

I must admit that I hope the non-metal review feature will be opened up again once the MMA have been more firmly established.

I'm sorry to sound pessimistic, but I don't believe that even waiting for two years (or possibly more) will make some people act like mature beings, instead of spoiled brats. On PA it seemed as if seeing a review for an Iron Maiden or Led Zeppelin album on the front page was some sort of sacrilege, and, when one had to read such rants over and over, it got old very quickly - especially when some people questioned the integrity of the whole Collab contingent. It seems that for some people it is impossible just to ignore what they don't like, and enjoy what they like.

Time Signature wrote: I must admit that I hope the non-metal review feature will be opened up again once the MMA have been more firmly established.