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thellama73 ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 59 |
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In general, I approve of this system, but the collabs will have to be careful and there are bound to be disagreements. The example that pops into my mind is Burzum's album "Hli�skj�lf," written in prison without the use of guitars or vocals (see my excellently written review.)To anyone just listening to it, it does not sound metal in the least, but if you know its history and concept, it does seem to very much ft in with the spirit of black metal, if not the sound.
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The T 666 ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hell Status: Offline Points: 479 |
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That case is interesting. That's the kind of situation where I would use a rather unscientific approach like "this band X is a known 100% metal band... They released this non-metal album... It still should be open for review as people will want to know about the ENTIRE discography of the artist". It's different in cases that are already borderline even at their most metal (Bon Jovi)
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Sean Trane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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Thanks for the clear answers
Thanks for the clear answers
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Mar 2010 Location: non-euclidean Status: Offline Points: 262 |
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I'm not a metal expert by any means, but I thought it was well accepted that an acoustic album could still be metal. Metal is the chords you play as much as the level of distortion on your guitar.
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Sean Trane ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: 03 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 124 |
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In other words we could not rate G'nR's only excellent album, Lies, which has one full face of acoustic songs....
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my music collection increased tenfolds when I switched from drug-addicted musicians to crazy ones....
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topofsm ![]() MMA Metal Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hate state, USA Status: Offline Points: 689 |
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Except Damnation is not a metal album even ignoring the fact that acoustic albums can be metal compositionally. It is a progressive rock album.
That being said for Opeth it's an important album for their discography and should be allowed to reviewed anyways.
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Lost respect for these archives when I saw Creed added, among other bands. Not going to be foruming here anymore. You can keep my reviews if you want.
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J-Man ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7032 |
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Let's get this post on the new page in hope of a response
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Raff ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1006 |
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Jeff, having moved quite a few albums to NM, I can tell you that I suspect the review would get deleted, unless the person in charge of the operation decided to save it for future use. Unfortunately, only M@x will be able to answer your question with a high degree of accuracy, since none of the albums I moved had any ratings or reviews.
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J-Man ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7032 |
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Raff ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1006 |
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I have just posted a review of Rush's Moving Pictures, which makes it quite clear that the album is not metal...Luckily I will take care of its removal myself, if it is so decided, so that I will be able to save it.
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m@x ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Québec, Canada Status: Offline Points: 947 |
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Raff is right, when an album will be re-classify to non-metal , we will delete (or hide from the site) and may list it only in the reviewer page (for information only).
So, be careful with borderline releases , in the mean time the admins do their best to tag the non-metal correctly.
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thellama73 ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 59 |
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I wrote a review for Rush's Grace Under Pressure before the policy came into an effect. The review was not deleted and still appears in my reviewer profile, but it is hidden from the album page and does not count towards its rating. So that's what happens, or at least it did in my case.
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Raff ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1006 |
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Apologies for overlooking your review, since I was the one to move the album
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thellama73 ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Atlanta, GA Status: Offline Points: 59 |
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Oh I wasn't complaining. I actually think that what happened is the best policy. That way I get the satisfaction of seeing my review, but it doesn't clutter up the album page, front page or top ranked lists. I'm very pleased it wasn't deleted.
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Time Signature ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7690 |
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I must admit that I hope the non-metal review feature will be opened up again once the MMA have been more firmly established.
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UMUR ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 18180 |
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Yeah maybe it would be healthy to take a discussion about this again in a couple of years.
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Raff ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1006 |
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I'm sorry to sound pessimistic, but I don't believe that even waiting for two years (or possibly more) will make some people act like mature beings, instead of spoiled brats. On PA it seemed as if seeing a review for an Iron Maiden or Led Zeppelin album on the front page was some sort of sacrilege, and, when one had to read such rants over and over, it got old very quickly - especially when some people questioned the integrity of the whole Collab contingent. It seems that for some people it is impossible just to ignore what they don't like, and enjoy what they like.
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J-Man ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Philadelphia,PA Status: Offline Points: 7032 |
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Raff, that wasn't the point of either of the two above posts. I agree with you - I hate hearing people bitch and moan all day about an Iron Maiden review, but you're forgetting that most people don't act like that. It's a few people that populate the forum that ruin it for everyone else. All Jonas and Time Signature were trying to say is that this topic may be more appropriate once the site is more developed. |
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The T 666 ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 30 Mar 2010 Location: Hell Status: Offline Points: 479 |
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That last sentence is the key. ONCE we have been established, ergo, ONCE we can afford to sustain and withstand blows by people who will question our credibility. PA was already a made site when the controversial additions and reviews started. MMA is still a child that will not survive a ton of non-metal reviews in the front page. In a while, when we feel like we've accomplished our first goal, when we have a lot of members and visitors, when people think of our site as a great metal resource, then I think we can open the gates and let the tsunami in...
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Time Signature ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7690 |
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I know that. That's why I included that last sentence. |
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