Simple question... Deep Purple.

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thellama73 wrote:

I think they belong here, because they were instrumental in forming the metal genre. However, as I said in another thread, if a new band came along that sounded just like them, I would vote for exclusion, on the grounds that genre classifications have changed over the years and what was considered metal in 1971 is now only hard (and not that hard) rock.

Exactly! That should be the policy.

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NJCat_11 wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

I think they belong here, because they were instrumental in forming the metal genre. However, as I said in another thread, if a new band came along that sounded just like them, I would vote for exclusion, on the grounds that genre classifications have changed over the years and what was considered metal in 1971 is now only hard (and not that hard) rock.

Exactly! That should be the policy.

Indeed +1

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Proto, yup!

Deep Purple, Heep, Rush are all early forms of Heavy Metal IMO.

PROGMAN wrote:

Deep Purple, Heep, Rush are all early forms of Heavy Metal IMO.

And early AEROSMITH("Rocks),CREAM,ZEPPELIN,SABBATH all paved the way for JUDAS PREIST,VAN HALEN etc. So yeah Proto-Metal or forerunners and an important part of what Metal would become.

well, I think they were pretty heavy for the seventies given that there was no hardcore, no grindcore, no extreme metal. A friend of mine would tell you that they played the "grindcore" of the seventies...

They created heavy metal together with Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin, so I don't really understand why we question their presence here.

Definitely. In proto-metal.

Sean Trane wrote:

Much like Steppenwolf.... not metal music..... but they coined the term.... this makes tghem unavoidable

Should Mountain, Cream and West, Brude & Laing be included as well in the pioneering rome they had??

It's a common fallacy that Steppenwolf were the originators of the term;

It was either an unconfirmed journalist of 1967 who described Hendrix's music as "Heavy metal falling from the skies" (or something like that - like I say, it's unconfirmed, but I've heard this rumour many times, and there's no smoke without fire)

- or it was the album Hapshash and the Coloured Coat, featuring the Human Host and the Heavy Metal Kids, released in 1967. The music isn't metal - not even close - but the band previously gave Hendrix his debut gig in the UK, played music that was undoubtedly heavy for the time, and went on to become a major root of metal music, influencing Sabbath, Purple, Zep, Blue Oyster Cult and Judas Priest.

I'd support Mountain. Cream - and probably The Doors and The Who - in proto - but would be a bit wary of too many hard rock acts in there; Bands like Free, Fuzzy Duck, Leafhound, Bakerloo, Quatermass, May Blitz, Sir Lord Baltimore et al are bound to come up for scrutiny, and while the "heavy" is indisputable, the "metal" is highly questionable.

Indeed - Blue Cheer are often cited as metal pioneers - yet the music is a trashy, grungy kind of heavy blues/psych.

They did have the volume, I'll give them that... legend has it that they turned the air around them into something like lithium-flavoured candyfloss, and could be heard from 10 miles away - not sure if they ever made it to 11...

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