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    Posted: 19 May 2011 at 3:08am
where is Ziz in metal Pinch
 

there are song after song, album titles after album titles, band name after band name, influenced by these two ancient beasts/animals, the ruler of the earth and the ruler of the sea, they are the pure image of nature, of elements of the old, the benevolent., the unreachable, the untamable.

 

But as well fared they seem to be in old Abrahamic myths and folk lore, they seem to forget that it is a TRIPOD, which all mythologies have. a threefold share of power and destruction and balance after all. balance is one red line in every belief system, balance of power and structure, these bands seem to forget or not aware of this third animal the third ancient beast form a time which is unknown to us, the mighty Ziz, da ruler of the sky, the giant bird. the creator of storms and mists, the negotiator, the traveler, while Behemoth is the embodiment of hunger, of mother earth itself, Leviathan lead a path of destruction and havoc, swallowed ships, flooded cities and heís moth led straight to hell,

 

Why is Ziz forgotten in music by these so called metal musicians/nerds? When they at first want to look like they have read a thousand of books (i havenít neither done so)? i would expect they would also draw from images from Ziz   

 



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to me Ziz is not an emboiment of a griffin but more like an Eagle, but griffins are also awesome in theyr way, but i think ether eagle or a hawk could b a nice image of the Ziz, but also a eagle witha lizard tale.
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Do Sphinxes count?


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that is a totaly different beast.. but a nice beast at anyhow, very tricky AND DON'T LOOK IT IN THE EYE,
 
 
a Ziz is very rare so rare you can crash into one in the misty oceans, it is so large you wouldent mistake it for a ship or a cliff
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HARDCORE RAAAWK
 
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Stil ther is a black metal band from Poland called Behemoth, I cinda lik them, even if they are rediculasly broohtal

 
and there is unknown to me a las anglean metal band called Leviathan
 
but this si the most famous Leviathan in metal
 
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Behemoth started out as black metal, but they sound more like death metal now.

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http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/leviathan.aspx?ac=leviathan
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I've never heard of a Ziz at all.  I don't think Jewish mythology has as much exposure in the west as Greek/Roman, Norse, Egyptian etc.
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It should get more inention becouse it is way epic, maybe I should e-mail Mastodon and beg them to feature a Ziz on ther upcoming album
 
 DO YOU HEAR ME YOU MIGHTY MASTODON, DO YOU READ MY PRAYERS, INCLUDE ZIZ IN YOUR NEW ALBUM IT WILL FIT YOUR AIR ALBUM VERY MUCH.


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I don't know about you, but maybe Ziz should get a name change. Cause Leviathan and Behemoth sound like incredible beasts of legendary sizes. And if you growl them they just sound like epic monsters.

But Ziz? Eh...
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Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

I don't know about you, but maybe Ziz should get a name change. Cause Leviathan and Behemoth sound like incredible beasts of legendary sizes. And if you growl them they just sound like epic monsters.

But Ziz? Eh...
 
as any diety it have many names
 
I found this froma web page

The ziz has another name, Renanim, because he is the celestial singer. On account of his relation to the heavenly regions he is also called Sekwi, the seer, and, besides, he is called "son of the nest," because his fledgling birds break away from the shell without being hatched by the mother bird; they spring directly from the nest, as it were. Like leviathan, so ziz is a delicacy to be served to the pious at the end of time, to compensate them for the privations which abstaining from the unclean fowls imposed upon them.




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Celestial singer, that's hardly badass enough for metal.
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I have to make one myself then, I am capeable to play metal bass, and have some wicked ideas for celestial metal.
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