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Tupan ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 28 Mar 2010 Location: Brasil Status: Offline Points: 1488 |
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And that's the end of a very pathetic story, folks!
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 4421 |
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Bet there's more Iced Earth apologists than there ever will be Lostprophets...
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Bosh66 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Sludge, MC&HC Teams Joined: 14 Feb 2013 Location: Bolton, Lancs Status: Offline Points: 18316 |
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Yeah Lostprophets didn't exactly last long after Ian Watkins was put behind bars. Slightly different with the crime, but still. |
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 19984 |
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Not a surprise. I'm surprised no one from Iced Earth has left yet. Being tainted by association is a thing, especially these days.
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 4421 |
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And I feel less guilty that of the 8 or so Iced Earth albums I have only one isn't a CD-r that I traded.
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Time Signature ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7664 |
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Well, I for one am done with Iced Earth, and I won't spend another dime on their music or merch, and I probably won't be able to listen to their music without getting angry (a shame... I mean Stormrider and all). Same thing with Tim Lambesis: after the whole hitman thing, I just couldn't enjoy Austrian Death Machine anymore. And Varg can suck a bag of dicks.
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 19984 |
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Back then after Varg was in prison record labels didn't want to touch his music either. It was only released because a fan set up a label, Misanthropy Records (coincidentally a very local label to where I live), just to release Burzum, that those records were released. I do keep keeping thinking about Varg's crimes through this and how his music remains in such high regard. Varg literally murdered a man (and is not the only musician in black metal alone to have done so), yet people still worship his music. Filosofem remains the top black metal album on RYM to this day. Likewise Faust from Emperor also murdered a man, yet was allowed to rejoin Emperor from 2013-2014 and to this day is with several active acts including Blood Tsunami. I guess the difference is these are historical crimes now that the guilty have served their sentences for. Schaffer's is still fresh (and committed during the era of Cancel Culture) and some will probably consider it a worse crime, which I disagree with. He's still a prick for what he's done and I don't think I'll ever be able to respect him as a person again, but he didn't kill anyone. He took part in a riot during an event where tensions were already high and those people were pretty much encouraged by the President himself. He will get what's coming to him for it, but it'll be interesting to see if metalheads in general will come to overlook this event and just judge the music as music. I'd hope so, given how many overlook Varg's crimes today. For the record I own Burzum releases too, but I have zero respect for Varg as a person. But I will still listen to him in those rare moments when his brand of black metal scratches an itch. The same will be true of Jon Schaffer's bands.
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Apparently Century Media Records has removed all reference to Iced Earth from their website: https://www.centurymedia.com/index.aspx ![]() We can poke fun at him for doing something really stupid, and he will probably be punished really hard by the US court system, but removing his artistic output seems a little harsh to me. Come on...lots of people still listen to Burzum (including myself), and Varg actually stabbed a man to death in cold blood. Even planned it...
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 19984 |
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This thread did ask for memes and this one isn't in the linked web page in the first post. And perfectly sums up this mess he's made for himself. ![]() |
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UMUR ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 16545 |
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Yeah it must feel like some sort of betrayel for them.
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adg211288 ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Black Metal, Prog/AG Teams Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 19984 |
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Yeah it's looking bad for him. Completely deserved of course. Who I feel sorry for are his bandmates. Jon may be the main writer of Iced Earth but he's never been the sole writer (and this isn't accounting for performances themselves) and there are quite a few other members having their work dismissed because of his actions. Although I honestly wouldn't be surprise if they end up leaving Iced Earth if the band continues in some form.
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UMUR ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team / Retired Admin Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 16545 |
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Those charges look pretty serious. If he actually used a pepper spray on a guard inside a federal building, that´s a really serious crime. If convicted just that charge will probably earn him at least a few years in prison (I don´t know the US legal system or the length of their punishments, but as far as I know, they are usually very long)...and that´s just one of the charges.
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Time Signature ![]() MMA Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: 04 Apr 2010 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 7664 |
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Hmmm.... I can't decide whether to throw my Iced Earth merch and CDs in the trash now.I'm definitely not going to purchase any Iced Earth stuff anymore. I won't support that asshole in any way financially or otherwise. Iced Earth just lost a fan.
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Vim Fuego ![]() Forum Admin Group ![]() ![]() Death, T/S/G, Grind, VA Teams Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Canterbury, NZ Status: Offline Points: 4421 |
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All I'm going to say is it's a trashy, completely inappropriate cover for the album. The title is the main thing there.
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Are devil women with tits that big really a punishment though?
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