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Originally posted by aglasshouse aglasshouse wrote:

I preferred post Justice Metallica, and Load is my favorite album. Sue me.<span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span>


I won't sue you although I hate that album. Ironically, one of the few things I've won in my life was a copy of Load in a competition I didn't even know I partipated in. :-/
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^ Interesting but it ruins the orignal mood of the album but a noble experiment to give those who found the orignal lackluster. Personally give me the first run ;)
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Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

I've never understood why some hate AJFA, it's one of my favorites from Metallica.

It's mostly because of that fact that you can't hear the bass at all, making the production pretty flat. I love AJFA, but I'd be lying if I said the lack of bass didn't annoy me.


Ever heard ...And Justice For Jason? Basically, some guy has stuck a bass track on the album. Can't say I like it much, but I suppose I'm so used to the original.


^I actually have, and quite like it. However, I've gotten used the sound of the actual album as well, so despite liking it, it does sound strange. LOL
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Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:

Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

I've never understood why some hate AJFA, it's one of my favorites from Metallica.

It's mostly because of that fact that you can't hear the bass at all, making the production pretty flat. I love AJFA, but I'd be lying if I said the lack of bass didn't annoy me.


Ever heard ...And Justice For Jason? Basically, some guy has stuck a bass track on the album. Can't say I like it much, but I suppose I'm so used to the original.
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I preferred post Justice Metallica, and Load is my favorite album. Sue me. 
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Originally posted by LittleBig LittleBig wrote:

I've never understood why some hate AJFA, it's one of my favorites from Metallica.

It's mostly because of that fact that you can't hear the bass at all, making the production pretty flat. I love AJFA, but I'd be lying if I said the lack of bass didn't annoy me.
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I've never understood why some hate AJFA, it's one of my favorites from Metallica.
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Originally posted by Vim Fuego Vim Fuego wrote:

Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

For some reason, the production of Justice never really bothered me although it clearly is terribly imbalanced.


I loved it, and wondered why more bands didn't have a sound like that! It used to make the speaker housing on my tinny old ghetto blaster stereo vibrate almost to pieces, especially the intro to Blackened and parts of the title track.

I'm in the same camp as your guys with AND JUSTICE. I actually LOVE how distorted and non profressional it sounds. It really suits the fuck the world anger driven attitude of the album. The main complain seems to be that the bass is indistinguishable from the guitar and i would agree that Jason Newsted got buried in the mix and they could've had the bass shine a bit more but as it stands it is one of my all time favorite albums
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Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

For some reason, the production of Justice never really bothered me although it clearly is terribly imbalanced.


I loved it, and wondered why more bands didn't have a sound like that! It used to make the speaker housing on my tinny old ghetto blaster stereo vibrate almost to pieces, especially the intro to Blackened and parts of the title track.
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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Totally different but for me it was an improvement on And Justice For All which sounded shit. That album frustrated me to death as it could have been so much better if they'd produced it properly. The Black album was slow but it did have some great riffs and the production was great.

It was the beginning of the end though and those first 3 albums are what matters.
Gotta agree there, I draw the line at Justice For All too because the production was just so horrible.

The Black Album was at least a bit of fun... but at the same time it wasn't the same Metallica we remembered, or even anything resembling what that Metallica seemed to be evolving into, and I can't listen to it without thinking "Eh, I wish I were listening to Right the Lightning or Master of Puppets instead" and switching to one of those albums.

I'm pretty much the same, although I do play it now and then if I pull any Metallica off the shelf it's nearly always the first 3 albums.
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For some reason, the production of Justice never really bothered me although it clearly is terribly imbalanced.
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All post-AJFA albums from Metalllica, Black album, Load and Reload especially, leave me cold. Country-metal is just not my cup of tea.
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Originally posted by Nightfly Nightfly wrote:

Totally different but for me it was an improvement on And Justice For All which sounded shit. That album frustrated me to death as it could have been so much better if they'd produced it properly. The Black album was slow but it did have some great riffs and the production was great.

It was the beginning of the end though and those first 3 albums are what matters.
Gotta agree there, I draw the line at Justice For All too because the production was just so horrible.

The Black Album was at least a bit of fun... but at the same time it wasn't the same Metallica we remembered, or even anything resembling what that Metallica seemed to be evolving into, and I can't listen to it without thinking "Eh, I wish I were listening to Right the Lightning or Master of Puppets instead" and switching to one of those albums.
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I'm an old-school Metallica fan, but I love the Black album.

I remember being at a band practice and my drummer friend bringing a cassette of the brand-new album Kill "em All. Going to see Metallica in early '85 on their Ride The Lightning tour, with WASP & Armored Saint. 1st album I bought on cd when I was in the Air Force was Ride The Lightning.

But the Black album was/is still a killer album. Different to be sure, but still great.


They lost me on Load & Reload though (though there are still some decent tracks on those, as well).
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I fucking hate Load and ReLoad.
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Originally posted by Unitron Unitron wrote:


I'm in the minority, but I actually like Load a bit better then The Black Album.

I prefer the Loads to the black album as well. Big smile
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Totally different but for me it was an improvement on And Justice For All which sounded shit. That album frustrated me to death as it could have been so much better if they'd produced it properly. The Black album was slow but it did have some great riffs and the production was great.

It was the beginning of the end though and those first 3 albums are what matters.
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First album I bought by Metallica on release day was Ride and the last in that sequence was AJFA. Black album came out at a time I couldn't rub two ha'pennies together and was completely skint. So I didn't hear much past Sandman for about five years. Actually think it's a pretty decent album, albeit a break from what went before. And I can't believe it was a quarter of a century ago either!
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I wasn't born yet when it came out, so I don't have any experiences with it from then. I really like the album, as it does have some killer tracks on it, but I just can't listen to Enter Sandman anymore. To this day, it's overplayed to death, I've probably heard it 100 times while skimming through the car radio.

I'm in the minority, but I actually like Load a bit better then The Black Album.
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^ yeah, i think that was part of its success. i always saw the 90s as a backlash to the shredding and complexities of the 80s. it seems that when music gets more complicated than non musicians can comprehend there is always a backlash against it. it happened with punk and prog and with grunge and metal. metallica was simply one of hte more successful metal bands to jump into the new game
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