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Originally posted by DippoMagoo DippoMagoo wrote:

Finished the Fallout 4 main quest a couple nights ago. My overall thoughts on the game remain as strong as ever, though I did end up getting a few glitches here and there, and when I got forced into doing a bit of settlement building late in the game, I wasn't too fond of it, Otherwise, though, I absolutely loved the game, and I'll definitely be playing through it again soon, with a much different build. 

As for the writing: I'd say the actual story is fairly generic and unremarkable, as usual, but there's a couple really interesting scenes, and a couple pretty big choices that were interesting. As always, the side quests tend to have better writing than the story, and the notes you find throughout various areas are usually worth reading for fun. For the most part, I found the actual missions within the main quest to be pretty awesome, and much better than in past Bethesda games. 

I just beat the main quest after about 150 hours playtime. Could have done it a lot quicker I guess but I didn't even go to Nick Valentine's office until hours and hours in, just explored and did side quests. I ended up siding with The Railroad this time around, though I was sort of a double agent for them and the Brotherhood of Steel for a time. My choice ended up being based who I found more likable. Honestly there are likable enough characters in both factions, but I honestly couldn't stand Elder Maxson, which is what swung it. 

I haven't found the game to be a disappointment in the slightest but I do have a few gripes with it:

The 'help defend random settlement' misc objective seems to pop up at completely random times, often where it is completely inconvenient (such as being deep into a main quest mission - I got one while deep in the Glowing Sea looking for Virgil and one during the attack on the Institute). They can also auto fail pretty quick, as happened with the one I got while in the Glowing Sea, if you don't drop everything to prioritize it. Conversely they are also bugged, with an attack at said settlement sometimes never taking place once you arrive.

Minutemen radiant quests became a pain in the arse after a while since they too auto fail if you leave them too long, which I found out the hard way one time. Preston always has more to add to your quest log the second one is turned in also, so you can effectively get stuck in a vicious cycle. You can break this by simply not turning in the mission to Preston and it will eventually complete on its own, but you can't talk to Preston again without getting another repeat mission to do. Fortunately Preston isn't exactly an interesting companion. 

I enjoy settlement building a lot, though find it rather limited and not meeting its full potential. The snap into place feature can be both a big help but also a hindrance. 

While I enjoyed the actual premise of the story, main included, I think Bethesda could learn a lot from games like The Witcher 3 and Mass Effect for dialogues. It felt liken they were halfway there with Fallout 4 with the voiced protagonist, but the dialogues were nowhere near as engaging as they could have been. I wish the protagonist would sometimes respond to companion dialogue more - Piper and Nick (my usual companions of choice) are always commenting on something or other on our travels, yet the protagonist never responds to them. 

I often get the impression that the game is too bright - and there is no gamma setting. Companions often comment on areas being too dark to see in and ask for a light, but they're still bright as hell. This suggests that the game is meant to be a lot darker than it actually is. Hardly anywhere have I actually found the Pipboy light needed. 
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I just bought a second hand Nintendo Wii for £25. That included the machine and a stack of games as well as a bunch of accessories. Most of the games I was not interested in though there are a few that look interesting. I'll probably test the games I don't want and then stick those on ebay.

Only problem I've having with it is that the Wii controller seems absolutely ridiculous. There's probably a trick to get it to function better, but so far it's been pretty frustrating and unresponsive to motion commands (the batteries are good). 
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I ended up getting Fallout 4 earlier than anticipated and have played about 10 hours so far. My impressions of the PC version so far:

It runs very smoothly. I don't actually meet all the requirements for recommended settings, but the game auto detected Ultra as the best settings for me and it runs like a charm. Smoother than Fallout 3 and New Vegas actually. 

Bethesda finally realized that rain shouldn't fall straight through solid structures, a problem I've had with all of their games since Morrowind.

I'm playing on the default normal difficulty setting and combat so far seems challenging but not frustratingly so. I've had a few tough fights but the only time I've been killed so far is when a car exploded right next to me during a gunfight. The gunplay itself is pretty satisfying so far. I like that thrown weapons such as grenades have their own key instead of being equipped in place of your normal weapon. I actually had a mod once for Fallout 3 that did this too. I wonder if Bethesda have learned something from the modding community here?

No crashes at all so far.

I was surprised to see access to power armour so early in the game, but the new way power armour operates balances that out nicely. 

There are a few minor annoyances though:

My weapon has disappeared in my hand several times already. Once my whole character disappeared. 

Sometimes textures do not load properly and look very blurry. This one may be because my drivers were not up to date. Just waiting to see if it happens again.

Certain aspects of the storyline(s) seem rather rushed. I've just done a couple of quests for them and I'm already in charge of the Minutemen, for example. 
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^Beat it tonight. It was absolutely fantastic, as expected, and up there with the original Dark Souls DLC as my favorite ever, to seal the deal on what had already been my favorite game in the past 18 years. 
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Finished the Fallout 4 main quest a couple nights ago. My overall thoughts on the game remain as strong as ever, though I did end up getting a few glitches here and there, and when I got forced into doing a bit of settlement building late in the game, I wasn't too fond of it, Otherwise, though, I absolutely loved the game, and I'll definitely be playing through it again soon, with a much different build. 

As for the writing: I'd say the actual story is fairly generic and unremarkable, as usual, but there's a couple really interesting scenes, and a couple pretty big choices that were interesting. As always, the side quests tend to have better writing than the story, and the notes you find throughout various areas are usually worth reading for fun. For the most part, I found the actual missions within the main quest to be pretty awesome, and much better than in past Bethesda games. 

Started the Bloodborne DLC last night and it's been awesome, but playing on NG+ 2 I still can't even beat the first boss. This gets thrown around a lot and is often exaggerated, but I think fighting that boss on NG+ 2 might be the hardest thing I've ever done, so much so that I may have to give it up and level up one of my NG characters in order to clear the DLC.
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Yeah, I think at this point I'd be more likely to get another season of Tales from the Borderlands than Game of Thrones. I'm just not feeling to good about that one right now, and i just watched a guy stream his playthrough of the finale and he pretty much said what I've said all along, about how it feels like they made the decision to do a season 2 based on sales, rather than because it was necessary due to plot reasons, and so we ended up with a cheap hack job of finale that resolved barely anything. Meanwhile, I honestly think I would have been fine with the Borderlands finale, if it didn't remind me so much of the original Borderlands ending, which pissed everyone off at the time. It also helps in the latter case that it did resolve the main threads for the season, so it wasn't nearly as unforgivable as GoT.

I like that about the Steam sale as well. Actually, that helps me out because I kinda ran short on money this month due to several unexpected events, but I'll have extra next month and I just so happen to be getting money on the 30th, so now instead of possibly missing out on a flash deal, I can just check on day one to see if there's anything I really want, and plan my purchases ahead of time for the morning of the 30th. 
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^ I'd actually rather than announced Tales from the Borderlands Season 2 though!

In other news, just spotted this: http://www.pcgamer.com/steams-autumn-and-winter-sales-will-ditch-daily-deals-and-flash-sales/

Pretty good news if you ask me. 
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Season 2 has officially been announced, btw. No surprise to any of us, I'm sure.

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Sounds like my game and Adam's played out the same or very close.
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Elissa Forrester still died in my game only she got stabbed during the unwinnable battle, which also resulted in Elaena Glenmore being dragged off to an unknown fate while Rodrik reaches out helplessly for her, Maester Ortengryn dying (off-screen), along with just about everyone else at Ironrath. Talia, Ryon, Duncan and Beska are the only ones who definitely survived. Rodrik was alive at the end but heavily wounded. 

Ludd lived in my game by the way. I killed Griff as part of rescuing Ryon (which actually felt quite satisfying) but every time it seemed that I had a shot at Ludd as well something happened to prevent it. This pisses me off because I'd understand this kind of failure if I screwed up some of the QTE's, but I nailed them all perfectly in this sequence. 


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I didn't have any sort of peace gathering in episode 6 in my save. Maybe that's a difference between having Rodrik alive instead of Asher? 

Yeah, that might be it. Well basically, what I mean by that is I invited Ludd Whitehill to come over for a dinner at Ironrath, to "discuss peace terms"...... Then we planned to poison him with wine! Because of course, poisoning people at dinner is how they do things in Westeros. Plan backfired, somewhat, when he refused to take it, so I can't remember her name but Lady Forrester had to drink first and so both of them ended up dying. Still worth it to kill Ludd, imo. Then I should have been able to kill Gryff as well, but something totally cheap happened to rip me off (automatically, of course: I was smoking him in the parts where I had control) and that's another thing that got me upset that they were just stalling things out for season 2. In fact, I should have been able to kill him back in episode 4, when I was beating the shit out of him, but obviously the game had to take things completely out of my hands back then as well.

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Do you know what pissed me off the most in the whole story though? I actually killed the Whitehills in an earlier episode but the game forced an unstoppable massacre of the Forrester's as well, which resulted in a game over. 

Yeah, I had that happen as well. Yet another thing I didn't like. Actually, my brother, who's an even bigger GoT/ASoIaF fan than I am, gave up on the series after episode 4 and I think that may have been part of it, because he was really upset that they didn't "have the balls" to let you go through getting some of your  characters killed to have Ludd and some other Whitehills killed. I agree, and that's part of the problem with Telltale doing something like Game of Thrones, because unpredictable things can happen in that series, so robbing you of the ability to create dynamic moments that don't fall into what the developer wants kind of ruins it, imo. But I think I've complained about Telltale enough for one lifetime already, lol!


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I didn't have any sort of peace gathering in episode 6 in my save. Maybe that's a difference between having Rodrik alive instead of Asher? 

Mira died in my save too. I kinda wanted her to live because I'd been playing her as someone who would do anything to survive, but it didn't feel right to betray Tom the coal boy who seems to be the only person in her storyline who has been 100% loyal to her the time. 

Do you know what pissed me off the most in the whole story though? I actually killed the Whitehills in an earlier episode but the game forced an unstoppable massacre of the Forrester's as well, which resulted in a game over.
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^Yeah, most of that sounds exactly like what happened on my game. Spoilers below:

For the Mira plot especially, I didn't care too much that I got her killed, because even if I had kept her alive it's like, would she even have helped the Forresters much anyway? The answer is probably no. I mean, I could have had her marry the one Whitehill, but I had several objections to that, plus imo anything involving peace in a Game of Thrones story just seems like a foreign idea to me, lol!

I actually really liked Gared's story in episode 6, much more than I expected. However, it serves as a perfect example of what I mean: Regardless of what choice you make, it's like they're trying to lure you back for season 2 to see what happens next, because either you stay back and maybe get to learn what the North Grove is, or he launches his campaign to try and retake Ironrath, with Asher probably joining once he's recovered (in my game he escaped, but was badly wounded. He'll almost certainly reappear in season 2, though.)

And yeah, the Stark/Forrester comparisons have been brought up online a lot and I mostly agree with that. I also noticed that some of the scenes were close parallels of events from the show/book: For example the big negotiation in episode 4 was fairly similar in setup to the Red Wedding, even if the details were quite different, and with how the "peace gathering" in episode 6 went in my game, it very closely mimicked the Purple Wedding, except this time there were two deaths instead of one.
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Telltale would honestly probably do better if they weren't trying to juggle several episodic games at once as they have been recently.

I personally quite enjoyed their Game of Thrones game though I think it has a lot of faults in it. I expect I'll get the second season if they make one (I presume they are after how this one ended), but only when it's cheap. I agree with what Travis said about every season having a conclusive ending as well. For me this game would have been better if your choices affected the end in such a way that it's possible to beat the Whitehill's. The Forrester's seem pretty much screwed whatever you do.

A few things that really stood out as negatives for me were (sorry, spoilers):

Mira's story. This one in particular seemed pretty worthless in the end. She got beheaded at the end of my game without having really done anything that really helped her family.

Gared's story. I quite liked his story overall but not the way it was dragged out across all six episodes. The Forrester's pretty much lost everything by the time he even got to the North Grove in my game, so no matter which choice you pick for him at the end of episode 6 it somehow feels meaningless by that point.

Finally I feel that a lot of the main characters were just carbon copies of the Stark's. Mira/Sansa for example or Rodrik/Rob. Even Talia/Arya (Talia is more feminine than Arya but I always get the impression that underneath the exterior that kid's tough as nails).
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Well, I have very mixed feelings on the finale. Some of the individual scenes were amazing while actually in the moment, but once it all ended, my feelings toward it were rather negative overall. I think for me what it comes down is, season 1 of The Walking Dead felt like a new benchmark for narrative gaming at the time, and other developers are now doing similar things in impressive ways, while Telltale has kinda slipped up and got to a point where there's so little you can actually do effect the outcome, that it essentially becomes an "interactive movie" with very little of the "interactive" part actually mattering anymore. In short, I think if their Game of Thrones story had been presented as a TV mini series or something, where I could be a neutral spectator, it probably would have been awesome, but as a game where I'm expected to play one side, it falls terribly flat. 

Lastly, I do not like Telltale's recent habits of ending seasons with obvious cliffhangers meant to tease a season 2. That kind of thing works fine for a TV show, but for a game that's pretty unacceptable I think, unless they would have told us up front that it would be multiple seasons. I don't even mean for them not to do multiple seasons: I'd just prefer each season to have a conclusive ending, instead of this total bullshit. Hell, for all I criticised season 2 of TWD, at least it had an ending (or endings, really,) and if anything they probably need to do something completely different for a third season, which is perfectly fine with me. As is, I'll likely get the Borderlands season 2, since I mostly enjoyed season 1 a lot, but I honestly don't think I'll bother with season 2 of this, because I just wasn't getting much enjoyment out of it past the first two episodes, and so it probably isn't worth putting myself through any more of it. I'd much rather just watch the HBO series instead, and possibly get caught up on the books. 


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One review I read basically said that the game forces you to "lose" no matter what choices you make, in both the finale and the season on the whole. I was getting that impression myself throughout most of the game, so I'm not terribly surprised to hear that, but it still gives me less motivation to actually play the finale. I was planning on putting it off for a bit anyway, due to Fallout 4 and then Bloodborne DLC next week, but at this rate I don't even know if I have the motivation to finish it at all. I think Telltale has really dropped the ball with this one and season two TWD, and I think in the future even if one of their games looks interesting, I'll wait for at least 2-3 episodes to be out and for the first episode to be free before deciding to buy it or not, because lately it feels like I've wasted too much money on their games only to be consistently let down.

Edit: I actually think I'm just gonna go and get the episode out of the way in a few minutes, so I can delete the game from my PS4 and continue to focus on Fallout for the next while. Hopefully I don't completely hate it, but I probably will, tbh.


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Just played through and completed the last episode of Telltale's Game of Thrones.

First off, the episode was pretty fun to play, but it was also a massive downer in terms of plot and ending. To be honest I didn't expect a happy ending by any means given its Game of Thrones, but the ending I got did feel exceptionally bad. I don't know if I simply made the wrong choices along the way or if there's nothing you can really do to improve it, but at the end I basically felt that I failed at every character's storyline. Counting the ones in previous episodes all bar one of the player characters were either dead or in a very bad way come the finish. 
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I've done a little bit of it, though not too much, mainly because my character is more combat focused, has 1 int and 1 charisma, so that actually locks me out of doing certain things with it, like setting up stores, for example. I will probably go deeper into it on another playthrough. From what I've seen it's a bit complicated to figure out, and certain aspects of it are a bit confusing until you've messed with them a bit to get used to how they work, but it's definitely interesting and I have heard of people using it rather extensively.
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Have you done any of the settlement building yet Travis? I must admit that's probably one of the features I'm most interested in. 
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I can't make even the slightest comment on the story yet, because after playing for 24 hours, I haven't tried advancing the plot even once after the intro. Pretty much all I know is I need to go to Diamond City, and I keep getting so sidetracked by other things that I haven't made it there yet, and may not even get there tonight.

Also, still no real bugs yet. I've had some weird looking animations and my guy got stuck for a couple seconds, but I haven't seen any of these supposedly serious bugs yet, so that's odd, but certainly a nice surprise.


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