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Topic: Favourite type of Black Metal
Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Subject: Favourite type of Black Metal
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 9:45am
As a companion to my death metal poll, here is a black metal version.

I didn't actually know about a couple of these options but they were mentioned on the MMA pages so I thought I'd list them. I also included a few notable hybrids.

And yes the Black Metal option itself means the basic, traditional form of the genre as started in Norway. Not so called first wave black metal than could mean anything.

Mine is atmospheric black metal.



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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 9:53am
Not really sure i have a favorite but avant-garde BM bands like Deathspell Omega and Dodheimsgard seem to be near the top of my list so i'll just go with AG since it covers a lot of unknown territory

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Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 9:57am
Damn it, I formgot to put in Psychedelic Black Metal to cover bands like Hail Spirir Noir.


Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 10:00am
Industrial Black Metal is my favorite. Next I'd say black-thrash metal or melodic black metal.

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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 10:49am
Atmospheric followed by AG for me (two very different styles)


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 11:09am
Atmospheric in general for me. Cosmic BM is actually a specific variation of that, which I'm a big fan of though, so I'm kinda tempted to put my vote there instead. 

I enjoy most forms of black metal, but there are a few I haven't really explored too much, such as depressive BM or industrial BM. 


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Posted By: Unitron
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 11:17am
Originally posted by adg211288 adg211288 wrote:

I enjoy most forms of black metal, but there are a few I haven't really explored too much, such as depressive BM or industrial BM

I recommend starting with Samael or Dodheimsgard. Samael's Passage would probably be the best start as it combines industrial and symphonic.


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Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 11:23am
In the absence of crust black metal, I went with progressive black metal. ;-)

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Posted By: Lynx33
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 11:23am
Very rarely do I listen to black metal, but if i do, it is Ved Buens Ende, which is said to be post black metal, or avant garde if you like.

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Posted By: The T 666
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 11:36am
Pure black metal. 

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Posted By: bartosso
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 11:58am
I like the black metal stuff made by Mories de Jong a lot - De Magia Veterum and Cloak of Altering. It's technically avant black but quite unique and I don't really like other avant black bands except for A Forest of Stars which is "kinda" avant. I like some post-black like Fen, but most of the movement leaves me cold. So, hell if I know!

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 12:56pm
^ it's supposed to leave you cold! Think of it as a musical skiing vacation ;)

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Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

In the absence of crust black metal, I went with progressive black metal. ;-)


I had to draw the line on the options somewhere, but yes, that probably should have been there...

Okay you caught me, I forgot another one. I should have just added an Other option it seems.


Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 1:09pm
Originally posted by Lynx33 Lynx33 wrote:

Very rarely do I listen to black metal, but if i do, it is Ved Buens Ende, which is said to be post black metal, or avant garde if you like.


Post-black metal would be atmospheric black metal, not avant-garde.


Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 2:28pm
It seems like you can actually vote more than once on this poll so I voted for both normal black metal and atmospheric black metal.


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by TheHeavyMetalCat TheHeavyMetalCat wrote:

Originally posted by Time Signature Time Signature wrote:

In the absence of crust black metal, I went with progressive black metal. ;-)


I had to draw the line on the options somewhere, but yes, that probably should have been there...

Okay you caught me, I forgot another one. I should have just added an Other option it seems.


No worries. I was just joking.

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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 3:05pm
Ignore him  Ashley, Kim will have you adding blackened glam metal next Wink Big smile


Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 3:07pm


They kind of look like they could have been blackened glam at least!


Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 3:09pm
Originally posted by 666sharon666 666sharon666 wrote:

It seems like you can actually vote more than once on this poll so I voted for both normal black metal and atmospheric black metal.


I actually thought that option was a to let people change their vote rather than vote on more than one.


Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 3:14pm
I demand that blackened bublegum pop be added! ;-)

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Posted By: Warthur
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2016 at 3:49pm
Went for progressive black metal in the end - most of the other contenders for my favourite (atmospheric, psychdelic, avant-garde etc.) tend to bleed into progressive black metal so it seemed like the common factor.


Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 1:21am
So where would you factor in old shit, like Bathory (first four albums)?


Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 6:06am
(Epic) atmospheric black metal (Summoniiiiiing!), followed by Viking metal

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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 11:22am
Originally posted by Vim Fuego Vim Fuego wrote:

So where would you factor in old shit, like Bathory (first four albums)?


I would imagine that would be good old fashioned tagless black metal

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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 11:28am
Or black/thrash metal.


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 12:23pm
This is sort of confusing since there's so much overlap. What would qualify as black speed? Some of these aren't even on rym

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Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 1:06pm
I'm pretty sure by Black/speed Ashley means blackened speed metal.


Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 1:47pm
You're right though, there is a lot of overlap here. Some of these options could in fact mean the same thing.

As Adam said a few posts back, Cosmic Black Metal is just atmospheric black metal. It just as a spacey theme to it which may include space ambient elements, but at the end of the day it's still atmospheric black metal. So is blackgaze really, though it's at the lightest end of that spectrum. To be honest a lot of Black/Sludge would also fit as atmospheric black metal as most such bands draw on post-sludge.

So called War Metal is a black/death hybrid so is basically the same as voting for Black/Death as it's written here. I'm presuming that like with Black/speed metal the black/death metal option means blackened death metal though. Of course none of those sounds are really types of black metal, but other genres influenced by black metal.

I'm not convinced on this black 'n' roll option though. The only bands I have heard called that are Kvelertak and Vreid. Kvelertak isn't even considered to be (primarily) a black metal act by most accounts, whereas Vreid is definitely melodic black metal. At the very least, it's not a developed style like death 'n' roll is.


Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2016 at 3:10pm
Being no expert on BM I'm struggling a bit with the large choice of subs but I guess it would be straight BM or prog BM.


Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2016 at 12:29am
I'd recommend anyone who is interested in but struggles with black metal to try out the melodic black metal bands. They tend to be more riff driven and with better production than other types.

http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/subgenre/melodic-black-metal


Posted By: Vim Fuego
Date Posted: 29 Jul 2016 at 12:38am
I forgot, I'm male. I only have about a 16 colour palette, so black metal it is! Erm, and I voted for it four times. Not trying to skew the survey, it just kept giving me the option...Confused


Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2016 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by 666sharon666 666sharon666 wrote:

I'm pretty sure by Black/speed Ashley means blackened speed metal.


I suppose I do. I took a fair few of these terms off of pages on the site.


Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2016 at 1:05pm
Originally posted by 666sharon666 666sharon666 wrote:

I'm not convinced on this black 'n' roll option though. The only bands I have heard called that are Kvelertak and Vreid. Kvelertak isn't even considered to be (primarily) a black metal act by most accounts, whereas Vreid is definitely melodic black metal. At the very least, it's not a developed style like death 'n' roll is.


I only included that because its on the MMA page.

http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/subgenre/black-metal


Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2016 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by Vim
 Fuego Vim Fuego wrote:

I forgot, I'm male. I only have about a 16 colour palette, so black metal it is! Erm, and I voted for it four times. Not trying to skew the survey, it just kept giving me the option...Confused


I thought that option being turned on would allow people to change their mind, rather than keep voting over and over.

Serious fault in the system, that. I shan't be using it again whenever I next make a poll.


Posted By: Alex
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 10:06am
Black metal is one area of metal that my wife and I differ greatly on. I don't dislike it as such but I've never been as into it as Nicole. In fact Nicole often finds various black metal bands that I just don't know what to make of. Came in from work recently and she was listening to a band called Todesstoß and my reaction was literally 'what the fuck is this?'

I do quite like some of the atmospheric black metal acts though, so I voted for that.


Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:02pm
Originally posted by Alex Alex wrote:

Came in from work recently and she was listening to a band called Todesstoß and my reaction was literally 'what the fuck is this?'




That Todesstoß is some dark stuff though. New territory for me even. I recommend it though.


Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:07pm
If it was Ebne Graun I liked that one too.


Posted By: 666sharon666
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:13pm
It was.


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:40pm
Yeah I was surprised by that album too as I don't usually go in for the depressive black metal stuff (though I've found two decent dsbm albums this year so far as it happens).

Their previous release is also pretty good but very different. Much more avant-garde. 


http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/album/todessto%C3%9F/hirngemeer


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Posted By: TheHeavyMetalCat
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2017 at 12:46pm
I've been planning to give it a listen.

That's definitely a really weird album cover too. I love it.


Posted By: Sisslith
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2018 at 9:35am
Atmospheric black metal.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2019 at 9:23pm
I didn't know there were so many kinds of black metal, it's like the Ford of metal... any genre you want as long as it's black

Which one is Drudkh?  That's what I pick


Posted By: adg211288
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 12:35am
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Which one is Drudkh?  That's what I pick

Atmospheric/Pagan Black Metal.


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Posted By: Bosh66
Date Posted: 26 Feb 2019 at 12:48am
AGBM


Posted By: Psydye
Date Posted: 03 Mar 2019 at 10:52pm
I'm torn between atmospheric black metal and melodic black metal. Can't decide.


Posted By: Tupan
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 12:57pm
Atmospheric Black metal for me. Seconded by avant-garde and prog black!


Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2019 at 5:13pm
I like them all when they are done well. I guess i lean toward AG and prog but really just good old fashioned second wave is quite enjoyable. I can't vote :(

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