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Triceratopsoil 
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: 17 Dec 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4197 |
 Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 9:46pm |
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That much, I can guarantee, will not happen. If the decision is made that King Crimson belongs in proto-prog, I will accept that and not complain even once, but frankly there is no way ANYBODY could legitimately believe they belong in avant-metal.
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Andyman1125
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 9:39pm |
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True, but not as much as the proto team's colabs. If it goes to the avant team, then its all you (and your fellow collabs)
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 9:29pm |
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I'm a collab, I think my say at least counts for something
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Andyman1125
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 8:38pm |
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^They're always so much fun
 It's more the admin's and team member's decision anyway, we have little to do with it.
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J-Man
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 8:13pm |
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This is when you know you have a perpetual disagreement on your hands... "I just don't see it".... "well I do!"
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Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime
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Andyman1125
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 8:12pm |
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well I do
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 8:06pm |
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I just don't see it.
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Andyman1125
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 7:34pm |
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I think THRAK and The ConstruKction of Light might pass as avant or alternative metal, maybe, if the 70s albums aren't proto enough. |
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Andyman1125
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 7:31pm |
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and also
this is very avant metal, once you get into the middle of the song Edited by andyman1125 - 24 Jan 2011 at 7:31pm |
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Andyman1125
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 7:26pm |
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It's so damn avant and experimental though, and has so many traits that back then constituted a major
 (aka metal)
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 6:45pm |
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It is for the first 30 seconds...
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J-Man
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 6:43pm |
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^ Seconded:
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Andyman1125
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 6:34pm |
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One More Red Nightmare is certainly proto-metal
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 6:25pm |
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uh, NO, Red has 2 songs that could be seen as metal. Starless, Fallen Angel, One More Red Nightmare and Providence are NOWHERE near being metal, proto- or otherwise |
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Pekka
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 12:38pm |
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I'd go as far as say that we not only can add bands with only one definite metal album, but actually there's no reason whatsoever to keep them out of the archives. As said above, the trouble with KC is to decide if theirs is actually such a case. Well, I don't think the point is if they're metal enough but proto-metal enough.
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UMUR
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 11:43am |
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...and Voivod
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Pelata
MMA Metal Reviewer 
Joined: 21 Jan 2011 Location: NC - USA Status: Offline Points: 339 |
Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 11:39am |
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IMO, if we can consider Blue Cheer in the Proto-Metal category, then surely we can include King Crimson...
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Certif1ed
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 11:19am |
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I think that since KC have consistently dabbled and returned to the heaviest end of the spectrum that they're probably worth considering, full album or not - you could probably make a very decent and quite long album out of KC's metal and proto metal pieces.
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Pelata
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 10:52am |
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If I'm not mistaken, I think Forbidden also covered "21st Centiry Schizoid Man"...
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J-Man
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Posted: 24 Jan 2011 at 10:09am |
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Yeah, that is quite a contradiction. Caio, we can add bands who have only one definite metal album. The question with KC is if they ever actually released a full-blown metal album.
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King Crimson for proto-metal?
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