Metal Up Your Ass and all that Jazz Room V2

Wouldn't organizing and archiving Punk be an anti-Punk thing to do.  :)  Anarchy and all of that.

rushfan4 wrote: This is a pretty rare incident where I actually almost side with the President on this one.  He knows who got him elected and to suddenly agree with Hillary that him and his kind are the deplorables would go against everything we know about Trump. And yes, a good many of them are deplorables, but there are others who just want what they think is best for them and their families.  Any white person who has lost out on a job or a college position because they are white are not necessarily the beneficiaries of "white privilege"...they have been legally discriminated against as a result of the "good intentions" of affirmative action.  And herein lies the argument that they are not racist but instead anti-discriminative against their own race...and is that much worse than the NAACP or the BLM.  He is also correct that both sides are to blame for the violence that occurred.  The "alt-left" are certainly no angels either.  The "alt-right" had at least taken out the proper permits and whatnot to protest the removal of the statue.  If the "alt-left" don't show up looking for a fight (taking the bait for a fight?) the violence that occurred may not have occurred.  In regards to the statues remaining or being removed where does it end?  As President Trump pointed out George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were also slave owners.  The TV show Last Man Standing had an episode where they wanted to change the kid's elementary school from Lewis and Clark because they were slave owners, and not very nice ones at that.  The railroads were built with Chinese slaves.  Our forefathers, slaughtered the Native American Indians.  Should any statue or other honorary item be removed for these people because of these atrocities?  Yes; No; Maybe.  These were different times.  Owning slaves, as deplorable as it was/is, was legal at the time.  When people get upset over the symbolism of somebody burning a bible or Koran or American flag, I get that it is the symbolism that pisses people off, but does it really do anything other than destroy a perfectly good door stop or flag?  If someone wants to fly a Confederate flag than so be it.  It is going to mean to me that "you are most likely an asshole who I don't want to have anything to do with and will probably avoid at all costs.  I will not attend your concert or frequent your establishment but if you don't mind behaving like an ass then it is no skin off my nose".  To me that is the message that people should receive.

This is a pretty rare incident where I actually almost side with the President on this one.  He knows who got him elected and to suddenly agree with Hillary that him and his kind are the deplorables would go against everything we know about Trump. And yes, a good many of them are deplorables, but there are others who just want what they think is best for them and their families.  Any white person who has lost out on a job or a college position because they are white are not necessarily the beneficiaries of "white privilege"...they have been legally discriminated against as a result of the "good intentions" of affirmative action.  And herein lies the argument that they are not racist but instead anti-discriminative against their own race...and is that much worse than the NAACP or the BLM. 

He is also correct that both sides are to blame for the violence that occurred.  The "alt-left" are certainly no angels either.  The "alt-right" had at least taken out the proper permits and whatnot to protest the removal of the statue.  If the "alt-left" don't show up looking for a fight (taking the bait for a fight?) the violence that occurred may not have occurred. 

In regards to the statues remaining or being removed where does it end?  As President Trump pointed out George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were also slave owners.  The TV show Last Man Standing had an episode where they wanted to change the kid's elementary school from Lewis and Clark because they were slave owners, and not very nice ones at that.  The railroads were built with Chinese slaves.  Our forefathers, slaughtered the Native American Indians.  Should any statue or other honorary item be removed for these people because of these atrocities?  Yes; No; Maybe.  These were different times.  Owning slaves, as deplorable as it was/is, was legal at the time. 

When people get upset over the symbolism of somebody burning a bible or Koran or American flag, I get that it is the symbolism that pisses people off, but does it really do anything other than destroy a perfectly good door stop or flag?  If someone wants to fly a Confederate flag than so be it.  It is going to mean to me that "you are most likely an asshole who I don't want to have anything to do with and will probably avoid at all costs.  I will not attend your concert or frequent your establishment but if you don't mind behaving like an ass then it is no skin off my nose".  To me that is the message that people should receive. 

You can obviously handle it as your spelling's still good 😉

Sunday evening I went to see Macabre for the first time since 1994, when I saw them the first time. Great show...they are still killer performers, and their music Works really well in a live environment.

Just did a little research.  Primus toured with Rush during the Roll the Bones tour and the Counterparts tour.  I saw Rush play with Eric Johnson the first time thru and Mr. Big the second time through on the Roll the Bones tour.  I saw them play with Primus on the Counterparts tour, which was for the Pork Soda album.  Sadly, too long ago for me to remember too many specifics, but I remember enjoying Primus quite a bit and really appreciating the bass and drum playing. 

Unitron wrote: Just got back from seeing Clutch and Primus, best and heaviest concert I've ever been to. Clutch was fantastic, but Primus just blew me away. There were even a few mosh pits during My Name is Mud and Jerry Was a Race Care Driver. They played a perfect setlist, great visuals, and it was just so fucking heavy. Sore all over, but that's the sign of an amazing concert.

Cool!  They just played a few miles from my house a week or two ago.  I did not know they were playing here until my co-worker mentioned getting caught in traffic by the venue and looking up on-line to see who was playing.  I saw Primus open for Rush way back in the Sailing the Seas of Cheese days.  I've always thought that they were an odd sounding band, but Les Claypool and Herb "Tim" Alexander are both excellent musicians. 

Just got back from seeing Clutch and Primus, best and heaviest concert I've ever been to. Clutch was fantastic, but Primus just blew me away. There were even a few mosh pits during My Name is Mud and Jerry Was a Race Care Driver. They played a perfect setlist, great visuals, and it was just so fucking heavy. Sore all over, but that's the sign of an amazing concert.

Always good to have you here 

I was expecting applause and five pages of posts upon my quick return.  ;)