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1967/ 1976
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Topic: Uriah Heep e Hawkwind for Proto Metal Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 11:03am |
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Uriah Heep and Hawkwind are in too Metal guide for not to be in this site.
Who do you think about these inclusions?
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The T 666
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Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 11:42am | ||
Uriah heep could have a slight chance (I wouldn't include them but The teams might come to that decision.). I don't see Hawkwind as anything remotely metal though. Not at all.
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J-Man
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Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 11:57am | ||
Uriah Heep should definitely be in proto-metal IMO.
Hawkwind has absolutely nothing metal about them. |
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UMUR
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Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 12:02pm | ||
I would have nothing against having both included in Proto.
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1967/ 1976
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Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 12:39pm | ||
Hawkwind have metal fans... So I think that Hawkwind have a chance to be included here.
Uriah Heep performs Proto Metal in 70's as plays Prog in 70's!
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thellama73
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Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 1:28pm | ||
Like others, I agree with Uriah Heep, but not with Hawkwind. They are psychedelic, not metal.
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Raff
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Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 2:12pm | ||
Do you want my personal opinion? We have to be careful not to go the same way as PA. I have more or less abandoned the site after yet another spate about a controversial addition. Life is hard enough for everyone without creating unpleasant situations in an environment that should provide fun and relaxation. For the time being, until the site is settled and we have attracted more members, let's keep things as they are. You all know the consequences of not setting boundaries right from the very beginning.
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The T 666
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Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 2:26pm | ||
Exactly. Let's add METAL bands because this is a METAL website for METAL fans. Once we've added all the real metal bands, we can start considering this difficult decisions...
If a band has metal fans it doesn't mean it's metal. If a band has zero metal fans but their music is evidently heavy metal, then it is a metal band. |
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micky
Forum Senior Member Joined: 25 Mar 2010 Status: Offline Points: 378 |
Posted: 10 Apr 2010 at 3:12pm | ||
couldn't agree more... Hawkwind has zilch in common with the site... Uriah Heep is another matter and probably should be here... but let's worry about the detailed accents AFTER the main course has been served...
getting real metal bands added and placed.. after that... guns away debating all the fricking metal related acts. To be honest.. wish that never raised it's ugly head here... but I guess the site has to be inclusive in that way. It can wait though.. the site isn't going to lose prospective members because Uriah Heep hasn't been added yet |
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PROGMAN
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 12:29am | ||
yes for Uriah Heep (maybe Proto-Metal).
Hawkwind had their hard rock moments (irony is they seemed to be more harder after the Lemmy era, but not much hard rock) , but more associated with Space Rock. "Night of the Hawks" is definately a hard rock number. |
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Raff
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:10am | ||
OK, now I will say it more clearly, since it seems my earlier post did not come across. As a moderator, and one of the people in charge of the Proto-Metal team, I am not going to support any addition that may prove controversial in the early days of the site. On PA there are people suggesting Bob Dylan for addition, and that is happening because no one put clear limits to what was suitable and what wasn't. We want to attract new members, and will not do so if our addition policy is unclear from the start. When things are settled, then we will deal with all the 'grey areas'.
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The T 666
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:16am | ||
100% support for that view of things
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Reed Lover
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:40am | ||
There is nothing remotely controversial about Uriah Heep as proto-metal as they were in the vanguard of the heavy rock movement in the early 70s.
Hawkwind? Umm, no. They weren't even guitar driven.... Edited by Reed Lover - 11 Apr 2010 at 7:41am |
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micky
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:44am | ||
not controversial for addition TO proto-metal... what is controversial is the existence.. or more to the point... an emphasis on adding those bands so early.. when the emphasis should be on adding real metal bands.and getting those bands (and albums) placed correctly. Edited by micky - 11 Apr 2010 at 7:49am |
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Raff
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:49am | ||
This site is called METAL Music Archives, and heavy rock is not metal. Mind you, my stance has nothing to do with my personal preference - as you should know, I am a huge fan of heavy rock, much more than of any of the extreme varieties of metal. Anyway, as the name says, Proto-metal is for bands that were influential on the formation of metal, and I don't really think Uriah Heep fit that bill. Edited by Raff - 11 Apr 2010 at 7:51am |
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Reed Lover
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 7:53am | ||
From your own MetalMusic guide... ...it continues:
Uriah Heep were very much blues rock/psychedelic rock heavy rock, a more melodic Sabbath type but heavy rock nonetheless methinks. Neither Led Zep nor Purple were "Heavy Metal" by your rational. Edited by Reed Lover - 11 Apr 2010 at 8:06am |
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Reed Lover
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 8:05am | ||
From Wikpedia, the same article that is the source for your Metal definition:
Game, set and match, I think. |
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micky
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 8:08am | ||
not so fast... the ump called your return out..
ace down the middle... game..set ...match Edited by micky - 11 Apr 2010 at 8:08am |
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Raff
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 8:12am | ||
I seem to remember someone saying, 'Let's add REAL prog bands'... Well, just replace 'prog' with 'metal', and here you are!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: 11 Apr 2010 at 8:13am | ||
Well it is on your About Metal Page:
http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/metal-music.aspx which links directly to the article I quote above. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_music Anyone reading that will expect the likes of Uriah Heep and Budgie to be here, wouldnt they? Not controversial at all. These ARE and always have been Proto-Metal bands (without that descriptor, of course). This is not an issue of broad inclusivety, it's not even up for debate surely? |
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